There is a reality here that the web is really a shifting sands of information.
So the idea we link to images and files we wish to refer to is probably flawed,
and is not going to achieve the archive role that would be desirable, simply
because those links will be broken or lost in a few months (maybe a couple of
years) when the associated host website is re-organised or simply shut down. I
don't believe that we can achieve the desired goal of a reference archive of
the mail list in this way, but only by storing files within the mail list. That
of course is additional overhead.
In that case, the argument against attaching images and files really becomes
one about data transfer sizes (processing large amounts of data) and the
spreading of viruses in attachments. In this case imposing a file-size
limitation is a sensible policy, and i think for people reading the archives in
2 or 3 years it will give exactly the same result as having a broken embedded
web link.
I agree with Alan though, that it would be better to have a full permanent
archive including files and images for reference. What are the options for this?
jools
From: alan.he...@gmail.com [mailto:alan.he...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alan Hewat
Sent: 15. juli 2015 08:34
To: Fabrizio Guzzetta
Cc: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: Re: Proposal to avoid banning for attachments in the list
Dear Fabrizio.
1) I would be happy if you or other members created such a dropbox to allow
people to post images, linking to them in their Rietveld posts. The main
problem with images is simply that they are not archived on
http://www.mail-archive.com/rietveld_l@ill.fr/ so are not available for future
reference.
2) But apparently not everyone thinks their images need be archived - you
yourself propose they be deleted after one month. In that case, I propose that
since we already made an exception for Jim, as a test, we allow such people to
post small images (75 kbyte) directly to the Rietveld mailing list.
They will not be archived, and I personally think that reduces the interest of
the archive, but I concede that other people have a different opinion. Vive la
difference !
Alan
On 15 July 2015 at 08:12, Fabrizio Guzzetta
fabrizio.guzze...@gmail.commailto:fabrizio.guzze...@gmail.com wrote:
I have seen, in the past, that the argument of attachments in the mails/reply
is always under debate and I understand both parties, the one that is
pro-attachments because we are visual in the senwe that an image can explain
better than tons of words sometimes or for particularly difficult patterns to
visualize, particular problems which can't be resolved with proper data posting
and so on, and the other one which has designed the mailing list this way,
probably to avoid scams/viruses/etc...
So I want to make my proposal: why don't we create a virtual space in the
clouds (e.g. dropbox), shared between the Rietvelders/crystallographers where
the attachments will be put according to specific arguments (and date), and
moderated in turn by few rietvelders (who can and want to do this, nothing is
imposed) to erase data every month (or so) old data previous an email
remainding when old data will be deleted? This will also eliminate or reduce
the needs for hyperlinks.
I hope not to be crucified and especial y I ask Alan (who created this list) an
opinion on that.
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