Re: Thickness measurement

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Chateigner

Dear François,

if the layers are say more than 300nm, go there: 
http://www.ecole.ensicaen.fr/~chateign/pdf/ICOTOM13CPSQTA.pdf


if lower, use reflectivity. Why don't you ask your, fully equipped, 
neighbours ? Just few steps in the corridor, the lab aside ... or send 
me your samples !


;-)
daniel

Francois Goutenoire a écrit :

Dear Rietveld Users,

I am currently working on thin layers deposit by soft chemistry on 
different substrates (Al2O3, Copper, ….)


In order to analyse these samples, I am using a D8 (Bruker) with a 
collimator + point detector.


We do not have any mirror to produce an intense parallel beam. We just 
used some primary slit, in order to give a less divergent beam.


For the moment, I am making detector scan ( from 10° to 70° 2 theta) 
with omega fixed ( from 1 to 5°).


We can have identification of the thin layer + the substrate.

I would like to have a rough idea of the thickness of the layer. I 
would like to do such experiment with the decrease of the intensity of 
a substrate peak versus the omega angle, and make a calculation with 
the decrease of the intensity versus the omega angle. After, I will 
make an hypothesis of the composition and the compact density.


My first test give nothing !!!

Does anyone have an idea, or even some reference text on such device 
(powder diffractometer + collimator + point detection) and applications.


Best Whishes, François Goutenoire.




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Re: Thickness measurement

2010-01-26 Thread Radovan Cerny

Dear Daniel,

an old Czech (and certainly international) proverb says:

There is a dark under the candle.

It explains why François did not ask you ... :-)

All the best


Radovan


Daniel Chateigner a écrit :

Dear François,

if the layers are say more than 300nm, go there: 
http://www.ecole.ensicaen.fr/~chateign/pdf/ICOTOM13CPSQTA.pdf


if lower, use reflectivity. Why don't you ask your, fully equipped, 
neighbours ? Just few steps in the corridor, the lab aside ... or send 
me your samples !


;-)
daniel

Francois Goutenoire a écrit :

Dear Rietveld Users,

I am currently working on thin layers deposit by soft chemistry on 
different substrates (Al2O3, Copper, ….)


In order to analyse these samples, I am using a D8 (Bruker) with a 
collimator + point detector.


We do not have any mirror to produce an intense parallel beam. We just 
used some primary slit, in order to give a less divergent beam.


For the moment, I am making detector scan ( from 10° to 70° 2 theta) 
with omega fixed ( from 1 to 5°).


We can have identification of the thin layer + the substrate.

I would like to have a rough idea of the thickness of the layer. I 
would like to do such experiment with the decrease of the intensity of 
a substrate peak versus the omega angle, and make a calculation with 
the decrease of the intensity versus the omega angle. After, I will 
make an hypothesis of the composition and the compact density.


My first test give nothing !!!

Does anyone have an idea, or even some reference text on such device 
(powder diffractometer + collimator + point detection) and applications.


Best Whishes, François Goutenoire.







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