Re: [Ring] Good news and questions about "rules.mak" files

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

> Thanks for the hard work attempting to package GNU Ring for Guix!

You're welcome! ;)

Re: [Ring] Fwd: We received your message!

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Hi John,

GNU Ring is currently able to communicate with some known
addressbook/contact management software. In GNU+Linux system
distributions, I know from a fact that GNU Ring communicates with GNOME
Evolutions, which I assume is the default one in Debian (at least it is
so in Trisquel 7.0 Belenos).

Try adding a contact which is neither in your addressbook/contact
manager nor in GNU Ring, and see if it appears in both. If positive, you
can try editing more details of the contact in that manager.

Currently in-system documentation is indeed lacking, some work still
must be done to provide Texinfo pages (which are better for reading and
allow for a more organized topic structure).

As for how to contribute, you can take a look at the link given in [1].

As for calling landlines and cellphones using the Ring protocol (that
is: not SIP) I don't know if that is possible. As for SIP, despite not
being able to afford one such service I'll speak of nor being under the
coverage area, I know that there are service providers (mainly those
members of Soprani.ca project, see [2]) which make the link between
SIP+XMPP <-> Baseband (or was it "->" only? I don't know, it's better to
ask the provider first).

Alternativelly, get in touch with Soprani.ca on how to help your local
economy grow and also provide another instance of the project. This way,
people around your city will possibly have an incentive to drop whatever
non-free non-standardized instant communication technology.

[1] .

[2] .

2017-10-30T10:20:00-0400 Steven  Roth wrote:
> De: "SFL" 
> À: cont...@savoirfairelinux.com, j...@whitelawchartered.com
> Envoyé: Samedi 28 Octobre 2017 18:40:12
> Objet: We received your message!
>
> Full name: John White 
> Email: j...@whitelawchartered.com 
> Subject: ring 
> Message: I am using ring. 2017-10-20 19:01:41 UTC as a sip phone via
> diamondcard.us, on my Debian Stretch system. It works fine. BUT I can't use
> it as I would like as there is no documentation to speak of.
>
> I want to put a name AND phone number in the contacts list, but can only put
> one of the other. I don't see many of the functions referenced in the online
> documentation. I will contribute.
>
> If I could get ring working well as a sip phone I would probably try its
> other feature. If I could call a land line or cell phone using ring's non-sip
> functions, that would be great. Until Gates bought it, I used skype and could
> call land lines from it.
>
> Finally, I think ring is hampered badly because it uses too common a name.
> Perhaps calling it ringx some other unique name would help.
>
> As you can see, I am quite confused by ring but think it has great promise if
> more documentation were available.
>
> John White
> White Law Chartered
> 335 W 1st St.
> Reno, NV 89503
> 775-322-8000 
> : 

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Re: [Ring] Suggest changing "da_DK" to "da" for danish translation

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I have made a suggestion for enhancement, see
.

scootergrisen  writes:

> Hi i suggest changing danish translation from using "da_DK" to "da".

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Re: [Ring] projet visulibre

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Could you explain the motivation for this thread?

Miguel Ross  writes:

> Bonjour à tous et à toute, 
> Le projet visulibre, 
> www.visulibre.org prend de l'empleur de plus en plus et nous avons de plus en
> plus de dont provenant de divers organisme commerce et personne. Visulibre a
> pour but d'aider les non-voyants en difficulté n'ayant pas de travail et
> voulant aller sur internet mais n'ayant pas le moyen de ce payer un
> ordinateur, ceux si peuvent en bénéficier grâce à ce projet si vous êtes
> intéressé à faire des dont d'ordinateur, il est possible de participer aux
> foire de visulibre qui ont lieu tout les samedis de 9h à 16h pm au cccl
> (centre communautaire caecitas lion) au 523 rue luis xiv à charlebourg vous
> êtes les bien venu et vos dons d'ordinateurs son les bienvenue. Prenez-note
> que comme l'orientation des distro linux de grande importance s'oriente vers
> les architectures 64bit, je ne peux prendre des machines qui ne suporte que
> le 32bit. Core 2 duo en montant sont les bien venue. Affin d'encourager le
> produit ring il sera installer sur tout les poste livré avec le projet
> visulibre.
>

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Re: [Ring] Question

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

A contributor of the GNUnet project just replied both in this list
(ring) and in the mailing list about GNUnet development
(gnunet-developers), see:
.

Basically, we do have some work to do before thinking about that. ;)

Lugarius Reloaded  writes:

> Why Doesn't GnuRing use GnuNet?
>

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Re: [Ring] Ring in F-Droid and Play Store. Suggested description updated: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cx.ring

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I would replace "open source" with "free/libre".

See .

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Re: [Ring] Question

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

That's an interesting question... I also would like to know. :)

Lugarius Reloaded  writes:

> Why Doesn't GnuRing use GnuNet?
>

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Re: [Ring] battery use on Android

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Hi, as far as I'm aware of, distributed communication systems often
require constant power usage.

However, please don't take my word as final consideration, because I
might also be misinformed of a possible (already-existing) way to fix
this.

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Re: [Ring] Future of platform-specific clients?

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

For the freedom issues referenced by Tirifto, see the whole thread in
[[https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-01/msg1.html]].
 Last
update was
[[https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-07/msg5.html]].
 But
no good conclusion was reached so far. Currently, the community assumes
the worst case scenario: QtWebEngine is considered non-free.

Re: [Ring] Fwd: Re: Please advise how to call between two or more devices with the same Ring username?

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

After authenticating, visit
[[https://tuleap.ring.cx/plugins/tracker/?tracker=15=new-artifact]].


Respectfully, Adonay.

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Re: [Ring] Contacts

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

You can add or manage contacts by adding the Ring IDs as telephones (and
keep the "ring:" prefix), or as instant messaging and presence protocol
(IMPP) (in this case, your version of GNOME Evolution must provide
option to add the "[GNU] Ring" protocol, the "ring:" prefix, or provide
a way *not* to specify the protocol so that you can add the prefix
yourself).

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Re: [Ring] Supporting people setting up Ring servers

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

About using the latest version, perhaps the "opendht" package in GNU
Guix can be of some use. It's currently in version 0.6.1, but guess that
once we have the packages related to GNU Ring in GNU Guix ready, then
everything will be updated.

Currently, the packages related to GNU Ring only have a test recipe made
by me, the test recipe is somewhat old (around one or two months old),
but it might be useful. The latest version is at
[[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-04/msg00430.html]].

There are still some imperfections mainly concerning the number of
specific configure-and-build options and specific patches that GNU Ring
applies to dependencies, but this is not a real problem per see, because
we can always send patches to the projects.

As far as I know, the packaging process is dormant. I assume so because
I was the last one to contribute to it. Although I know that Maxim
Cournoyer is interested in taking it over, as can be seen at
[[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-04/msg00434.html]].

Last, but not less importnat, perhaps we don't even need to wait for the
set of packages to be ready, we can only take the improvement associated
with "opendht" package (and its dependencies, if any).

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