Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-24 Thread Joel Busch via ripe-list

Hi Philipp
Hi Sander

On 19.01.2024 16:51, Sander Steffann wrote:

please find a way to make the RIPE DB search the dominant one again.


I agree with this. I'm not much of a proficient user of the website. 
When I tried to use the database search yesterday (before reading this 
email thread today), I was very confused why there weren't any results 
for a role object, that I was sure had to exist.


If you disagree and want to keep the website search on top, then you 
could put a link on the no results page. Perhaps one saying something 
like "Did you mean to query the database", which ideally prefills your 
query-text in the DB search if clicked.


This would make the transition easier for people like me who blindly 
assume the search in the same general UI region still does the same, I 
think.


Best,
Joel

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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-22 Thread Michael Richardson

Leo Vegoda  wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 11:29, Elmar K. Bins  wrote:
>>
>> m...@sandelman.ca (Michael Richardson) wrote:
>>
>> > Wasn't there a "Your IP address is " on the old site?
>> > (Yes, there was according to archive.org)
>> >
>> > It's nice to have.  It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing.
>>
>> I second this, please bring it back.

> It appears when you click on the magnifying glass icon. It's there but
> probably needs to be more prominent.

Uh. yeah, that's a bizarre thing.
I think that it got refactored wrong.
Someone assumed it was part of the search, since that's where it was located.

While it's really unrelated.


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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-22 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
RIPE NCC, thanks for evolving the site!

When it comes to searching, I agree with Andy that a search field on a
web site leads me to believe that it searches that website*, and not
some "external" databse – and I like to have it that way.

To access the RIPE DB over HTTPS, I would like so see that as a second,
and separate, search field, so that I can "tell the system" where I want
it to search, e.g.:

Search website: ..
Search RIPE DB: ..

Myself, I'm old enough to prefer the whois CLI tool to lookup stuff in
the DB, but I know that I'm old-fashioned, and I do respect that HTTPS
is easier for most people.

Cheers,
  /Liman

* With the obvious exception of search engines like Google.


a...@nosignal.org 2024-01-21 10:16 [+]:
> On 20 Jan 2024, at 21:06, Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>> 
>> I disagree. They are equally important. RIPE Database searches
>> obviously need to be highly accessible but the site search is vital
>> as the site is so big and old stuff is never removed. I look forward
>> to a really good website search feature coming soon.

> Thanks for making this point so eloquently. It’s what I thought too: I
> do expect the ripe website search tool to first and foremost search
> the ripe website, notwithstanding the benefit provided by and need for
> a really good web interface to the ripe db. I assumed I’d missed
> something and stayed quiet. Thanks also for helping me realise that I
> had a valid thought all along, Leo. :)

> Andy
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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-21 Thread Andy Davidson
On 20 Jan 2024, at 21:06, Leo Vegoda  wrote:
> 
> I disagree. They are equally important. RIPE Database searches obviously need 
> to be highly accessible but the site search is vital as the site is so big 
> and old stuff is never removed. I look forward to a really good website 
> search feature coming soon.

Thanks for making this point so eloquently. It’s what I thought too: I do 
expect the ripe website search tool to first and foremost search the ripe 
website, notwithstanding the benefit provided by and need for a really good web 
interface to the ripe db. I assumed I’d missed something and stayed quiet.  
Thanks also for helping me realise that I had a valid thought all along, Leo. :)

Andy
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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-20 Thread Leo Vegoda
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 11:29, Elmar K. Bins  wrote:
>
> m...@sandelman.ca (Michael Richardson) wrote:
>
> > Wasn't there a "Your IP address is " on the old site?
> > (Yes, there was according to archive.org)
> >
> > It's nice to have.  It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing.
>
> I second this, please bring it back.

It appears when you click on the magnifying glass icon. It's there but
probably needs to be more prominent.

> I also feel that searching the website is a LOT less important to avid users
> than a whois search, so please do bring that one back, too.

I disagree. They are equally important. RIPE Database searches
obviously need to be highly accessible but the site search is vital as
the site is so big and old stuff is never removed. I look forward to a
really good website search feature coming soon.

Regards,

Leo

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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-20 Thread Elmar K. Bins
m...@sandelman.ca (Michael Richardson) wrote:

> Wasn't there a "Your IP address is " on the old site?
> (Yes, there was according to archive.org)
>
> It's nice to have.  It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing.

I second this, please bring it back.

I also feel that searching the website is a LOT less important to avid users
than a whois search, so please do bring that one back, too.

Elmar.


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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-20 Thread Michael Richardson
Wasn't there a "Your IP address is " on the old site?
(Yes, there was according to archive.org)

It's nice to have.  It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing.

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Re: [ripe-list] The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live

2024-01-19 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Phillip,

> • We are using a new search engine on the website, so search results should 
> be more relevant, and we will be investing time to make this experience even 
> better

About that: please find a way to make the RIPE DB search the dominant one 
again. I remember that this was an issue last time that the RIPE NCC redesigned 
the website, please don’t repeat the mistake of prioritising website search 
over database search.

Cheers,
Sander


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