Re: [RDD] MainLog gets fadded down upon tracks segueing

[Bemis, Andru]

This should fix github issue #779, as well.

Thanks, Fred!

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Re: [RDD] MainLog gets fadded down upon tracks segueing

[Fred Gleason]

On May 11, 2022, at 10:29, Alejandro olivan Alvarez 
 wrote:
> Have you opened an issue on the Github repo for this?
> 
I’ve marked #806 as a bug; no need for a new issue.

> (I guess that this may probably be considered a quite ugly bug!)
> 

Certainly a glaring one! Hopefully not too bad to fix though.

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Re: [RDD] MainLog gets fadded down upon tracks segueing

[Fred Gleason]

On May 11, 2022, at 10:11, Bemis, Andru  wrote:

> I'm not at my RD4 computer right now, but I have a hunch that the Fade-Up & 
> Fade-Down markers have been accidently switched somewhere in the RD4 
> programming. I know for a fact that cuts exported from RD4 and imported to 
> RD3 have Fade-Ups where I set Fade--Downs, and vise versa. This leads to very 
> similar results as you're describing. There's definitely a bug of some sort 
> in the way RD4 deals with fade markers.

That’s exactly right. Good call! See:

https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/issues/806 


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Re: [RDD] MainLog gets fadded down upon tracks segueing

[Alejandro olivan Alvarez]

WOW! ... Thanks for your reply! I was really breaking my head.

I have not cross-imported 3 to 4 or vice-versa, but rather, from the 
very start, working on a RD4 machine from scratch for the testing... But 
after patient work on setting marks on 3/4 of my tracks on RD4 
RDlibrary, I'm starting to notice that something is wrong.


Have you opened an issue on the Github repo for this? (I guess that this 
may probably be considered a quite ugly bug!)


Thanks, regards.

On 5/11/22 16:11, Bemis, Andru wrote:
I'm not at my RD4 computer right now, but I have a hunch that the 
Fade-Up & Fade-Down markers have been accidently switched somewhere in 
the RD4 programming. I know for a fact that cuts exported from RD4 and 
imported to RD3 have Fade-Ups where I set Fade--Downs, and vise versa. 
This leads to very similar results as you're describing. There's 
definitely a bug of some sort in the way RD4 deals with fade markers.


Andru Bemis

Producer & Host | The Chenango Sessions
Director | Cranberry Coffeehouse
Music Director | WBDY-LP 99.5 FM
Piano Technician | Binghamton Piano Rescue

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(269) 767-8235
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On Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:35 AM Alejandro olivan Alvarez 
 wrote:


Hi and thanks for your advice!

From the way you use the 'No fade on segue out' function (or as I
understand you do), it reassures me I'm using it right: As either
a way to prevent the cut to be faded down on segue (for instance
if the cut audio itself fades down nicely) or as a way to take
control of the actual fading down by means of a fade-down marker.

Anyways, the fact is that I forgot to mention that I'm beta
testing RD4 :-P ... so anything could happen!

But since you mentioned also the fade-up marker, I'm starting to
feel as if it does nothing (Beta4... probably not the place this
list to discuss this... but I hate reporting bugs out of my
incomplete knowledge of features), as most of my tracks do have
fade up mark for a whole 8 beat bar, and I'm failing to perceive
nice progressive fade ups, but rather sharp/sudden playback
starts, resulting in mediocre transitions/segues ... Will have to
invest time to be sure.

Anyhow... thank you very much!

Regards.

On 5/10/22 22:40, Brandon Anjeleno wrote:

Hey Alejandro,

I don't use the fade down markers, but occasionally, I'll use the
fade up marker to start a song at a specific point giving it a
clean start point at a specified time. I always use the 'No Fade
on segue out' function on *all* imaging / sweepers / promos, etc
so that the next marker doesn't fade out the imaging before the
end of the sweeper / promo when walking up a song intro.

Hope that helps!
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Station Manager
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On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:28 AM Alejandro olivan Alvarez
 wrote:

Hi List.

Not sure whether my list account is ok... hope it is! Here we go

I'm practicing with my library trying to have all tracks
properly
'marked'. So I've quite a lot of fade down and fade up marks.

The problem I'm facing is that the main log is often
mutted/faded down
as two tracks transition/segue, and I'm not finding the logic.

I'm looking for the cause of this, why do tracks sometimes play
entirelly with the LogMachine fadded down, with or without
Fade up
marks? ... I'm starting to thing I've misunderstood what's
the bussiness
logic behind the 'No Fade on segue out' button does... What
does this
button do? Does it apply for the track it is defined (as I
think it
does) or does it refer to the next track (like the segue mark
refers to
where the next track will start)

I'm not finding this on the manual...

Thanks!

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Re: [RDD] MainLog gets fadded down upon tracks segueing

[Bemis, Andru]

I'm not at my RD4 computer right now, but I have a hunch that the Fade-Up &
Fade-Down markers have been accidently switched somewhere in the RD4
programming. I know for a fact that cuts exported from RD4 and imported to
RD3 have Fade-Ups where I set Fade--Downs, and vise versa. This leads to
very similar results as you're describing. There's definitely a bug of some
sort in the way RD4 deals with fade markers.

Andru Bemis

Producer & Host | The Chenango Sessions
Director | Cranberry Coffeehouse
Music Director | WBDY-LP 99.5 FM
Piano Technician | Binghamton Piano Rescue

557 Chenango St, Binghamton, NY 13901, USA
(269) 767-8235
he/him

On Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:35 AM Alejandro olivan Alvarez <
alejandro.olivan.alva...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi and thanks for your advice!
>
> From the way you use the 'No fade on segue out' function (or as I
> understand you do), it reassures me I'm using it right: As either a way to
> prevent the cut to be faded down on segue (for instance if the cut audio
> itself fades down nicely) or as a way to take control of the actual fading
> down by means of a fade-down marker.
>
> Anyways, the fact is that I forgot to mention that I'm beta testing RD4
> :-P ... so anything could happen!
>
> But since you mentioned also the fade-up marker, I'm starting to feel as
> if it does nothing (Beta4... probably not the place this list to discuss
> this... but I hate reporting bugs out of my incomplete knowledge of
> features), as most of my tracks do have fade up mark for a whole 8 beat
> bar, and I'm failing to perceive nice progressive fade ups, but rather
> sharp/sudden playback starts, resulting in mediocre transitions/segues ...
> Will have to invest time to be sure.
>
> Anyhow... thank you very much!
>
> Regards.
> On 5/10/22 22:40, Brandon Anjeleno wrote:
>
> Hey Alejandro,
>
> I don't use the fade down markers, but occasionally, I'll use the fade up
> marker to start a song at a specific point giving it a clean start point at
> a specified time. I always use the 'No Fade on segue out' function on *all*
> imaging / sweepers / promos, etc so that the next marker doesn't fade out
> the imaging before the end of the sweeper / promo when walking up a song
> intro.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Brandon Anjeleno
> Station Manager
> subSTATION.one 
> UNITED WE DANCE ®
> +1 (213) 839-7667 <12138397667>
> WhatsApp 
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:28 AM Alejandro olivan Alvarez <
> alejandro.olivan.alva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi List.
>>
>> Not sure whether my list account is ok... hope it is! Here we go
>>
>> I'm practicing with my library trying to have all tracks properly
>> 'marked'. So I've quite a lot of fade down and fade up marks.
>>
>> The problem I'm facing is that the main log is often mutted/faded down
>> as two tracks transition/segue, and I'm not finding the logic.
>>
>> I'm looking for the cause of this, why do tracks sometimes play
>> entirelly with the LogMachine fadded down, with or without Fade up
>> marks? ... I'm starting to thing I've misunderstood what's the bussiness
>> logic behind the 'No Fade on segue out' button does... What does this
>> button do? Does it apply for the track it is defined (as I think it
>> does) or does it refer to the next track (like the segue mark refers to
>> where the next track will start)
>>
>> I'm not finding this on the manual...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RDD] GPIO Logitech USB

[Mike Cox]

Further to this I am getting the following in the Rivendell log.

May 11 15:02:04 playback1 ripcd: GPI 0:8 ON
May 11 15:02:05 playback1 ripcd: GPI 0:8 OFF

On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 14:00 +, Mike Cox wrote:
Hi all
I have butchered a Logitech USB joystick to use as a trigger to set a Mic live 
light using RDD.
My setup is:
Reed switch on mixer fader > Logitech joystick button > USB > RDD > External 
light.
I have the USB connected and working on RDGPIMON as it shows channel 8 on and 
off when I move the fader. The GPIO is set up in RD to trigger two carts (On = 
050001 Off = 050002) and these show in RDGPIMON as green and red beneath 
channel 8.

If I run the two carts from the cart panel they work correctly sending an IP 
message to my Mic lIve light. However, if I use my fader switch the carts are 
not triggered even though RDGPIMON suggests that they should be.

Does anyone have any idea what may not be working correctly or what I can do to 
fault find it in greater detail.

To summarise, the switch and the USB input seem to work fine but RDD does not 
trigger the configured carts.

Many thanks
Mike

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Re: [RDD] MainLog gets fadded down upon tracks segueing

[Alejandro olivan Alvarez]

Hi and thanks for your advice!

From the way you use the 'No fade on segue out' function (or as I 
understand you do), it reassures me I'm using it right: As either a way 
to prevent the cut to be faded down on segue (for instance if the cut 
audio itself fades down nicely) or as a way to take control of the 
actual fading down by means of a fade-down marker.


Anyways, the fact is that I forgot to mention that I'm beta testing RD4 
:-P ... so anything could happen!


But since you mentioned also the fade-up marker, I'm starting to feel as 
if it does nothing (Beta4... probably not the place this list to discuss 
this... but I hate reporting bugs out of my incomplete knowledge of 
features), as most of my tracks do have fade up mark for a whole 8 beat 
bar, and I'm failing to perceive nice progressive fade ups, but rather 
sharp/sudden playback starts, resulting in mediocre transitions/segues 
... Will have to invest time to be sure.


Anyhow... thank you very much!

Regards.

On 5/10/22 22:40, Brandon Anjeleno wrote:

Hey Alejandro,

I don't use the fade down markers, but occasionally, I'll use the fade 
up marker to start a song at a specific point giving it a clean start 
point at a specified time. I always use the 'No Fade on segue out' 
function on *all* imaging / sweepers / promos, etc so that the next 
marker doesn't fade out the imaging before the end of the sweeper / 
promo when walking up a song intro.


Hope that helps!
Brandon Anjeleno
Station Manager
subSTATION.one 
UNITED WE DANCE ®
+1 (213) 839-7667 
WhatsApp 


On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:28 AM Alejandro olivan Alvarez 
 wrote:


Hi List.

Not sure whether my list account is ok... hope it is! Here we go

I'm practicing with my library trying to have all tracks properly
'marked'. So I've quite a lot of fade down and fade up marks.

The problem I'm facing is that the main log is often mutted/faded
down
as two tracks transition/segue, and I'm not finding the logic.

I'm looking for the cause of this, why do tracks sometimes play
entirelly with the LogMachine fadded down, with or without Fade up
marks? ... I'm starting to thing I've misunderstood what's the
bussiness
logic behind the 'No Fade on segue out' button does... What does this
button do? Does it apply for the track it is defined (as I think it
does) or does it refer to the next track (like the segue mark
refers to
where the next track will start)

I'm not finding this on the manual...

Thanks!

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