Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
On Mar 31, 2022, at 09:47, David Klann wrote: > For the record, the "Fred Gleason recommended way(tm)" to attach remote file > systems uses the autofs[1] subsystem. Autofs causes remote file systems to be > attached at the time they are accessed and are detached when unused for a > specified period of time. Yup. :) The beauty of autofs is that it can automatically ‘heal’ situations that otherwise can cause major grief. A classic one is recovery from a facility-wide power failure. It’s not uncommon for the Rivendell server to take significantly longer to finish rebooting than many workstations; with the result that fstab(5) based setups end up with ‘/var/snd’ not being mounted from the server. If you’re “lucky”, this will show up right away when audio doesn’t play. The really invidious case though is with dedicated net catchers, which will happily record audio to the machine's local drive rather than the server. This sometimes doesn’t get caught until hours (or days!) later, when incorrect/dated material hits the air. Cheers! |-| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |-| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | | | -- Cicero | |-|___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
After going through the standard Paravel Rivendell 3 install procedure, I moved /var/snd to /var/snd.0 and created a new empty /var/snd . Then I used blkid to find the uuid of the audio disk drive. I then created the following: # /root/startup.sh : #!/bin/bash # STARTUP SCRIPT sleep 30 # MOUNT /var/snd mount -U cc4434f0-1e78-4759-a6e5-fbd7785f7227 /var/snd ## root's crontab: # CRON TABLE FOR root USER=root PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/root #m h d m w what # STARTUP @reboot startup.sh ## ...and that's it. After mounting the disk to /var/snd for the first time, I changed its ownership and group to "rivendell": chown -R rivendell /var/snd chgrp -R rivendell /var/snd Rob -- Не думай что всё пропели, Что бури все отгремели; Готовься к великой цели, А слава тебя найдёт. On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, Seth Stevenson wrote: Would you mind sharing how you set that up, and a script if possible? On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 2:43 PM Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: I have long been in the habit of building Rivendell machines with two drives: a smaller solid-state drive for the OS, and a larger mechanical drive, typically 2 TB, for the audio files. Rather than using /etc/fstab, though, I have a cron job running as root that mounts the big drive as /var/snd after booting. If something happens to the audio drive and someone reboots the machine, if the drive is listed in /etc/fstab and can't be mounted, the machine won't boot. But if the drive is mounted after booting, the OS will still run and I can troubleshoot the machine remotely. Most of the stations I support are 2+ hours drive from me, so it pays to know that I need a new drive before I leave home. Rob -- Не думай что всё пропели, Что бури все отгремели; Готовься к великой цели, А слава тебя найдёт. On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, ermina wrote: > Hi, > > not sure how RD4 works yet, but if your installation is on a single > computer, you can just edit /etc/fstab to bind the path where you > actually store your files to /var/snd; ie add a line that says: > > /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ /var/snd none bind 0 0 > > Hope this helps. > > . leo > > On 3/26/22 8:09 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote: >> >> I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 version >> of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard setup. >> >> However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted >> the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it permissions >> per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the >> destination file". >> >> The path I'm using on the new drive is >> this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ >> >> What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd >> location? >> >> -- >> Seth Stevenson >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Seth Stevenson ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
Yes I would like details as well. On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 7:47 AM drew Roberts wrote: > Thanks Rob, > > interesting idea, I will have to play with it. > > Care to share the "full details" of the cron job for those of us who are > reading this while it is still "too early"??? > > all the best, > > drew > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 2:50 PM Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> > wrote: > >> >> I have long been in the habit of building Rivendell machines with two >> drives: a smaller solid-state drive for the OS, and a larger mechanical >> drive, typically 2 TB, for the audio files. Rather than using >> /etc/fstab, though, I have a cron job running as root that mounts the big >> drive as /var/snd after booting. >> >> If something happens to the audio drive and someone reboots the machine, >> if the drive is listed in /etc/fstab and can't be mounted, the machine >> won't boot. >> >> But if the drive is mounted after booting, the OS will still run and I >> can >> troubleshoot the machine remotely. Most of the stations I support are 2+ >> hours drive from me, so it pays to know that I need a new drive before I >> leave home. >> >> >> Rob >> >> -- >> Не думай что всё пропели, >> Что бури все отгремели; >> Готовься к великой цели, >> А слава тебя найдёт. >> >> >> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, ermina wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > not sure how RD4 works yet, but if your installation is on a single >> > computer, you can just edit /etc/fstab to bind the path where you >> > actually store your files to /var/snd; ie add a line that says: >> > >> > /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ /var/sndnone bind 0 0 >> > >> > Hope this helps. >> > >> > . leo >> > >> > On 3/26/22 8:09 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote: >> >> >> >> I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 >> version >> >> of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard >> setup. >> >> >> >> However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted >> >> the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it >> permissions >> >> per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the >> >> destination file". >> >> >> >> The path I'm using on the new drive is >> >> this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ >> >> >> >> What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd >> >> location? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Seth Stevenson >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >> >> > ___ >> > Rivendell-dev mailing list >> > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> > > > -- > Enjoy the *Paradise Island Cam* playing > *Bahamian Or Nuttin* - https://www.paradiseislandcam.com/ > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > -- Seth Stevenson ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
Thanks Rob, interesting idea, I will have to play with it. Care to share the "full details" of the cron job for those of us who are reading this while it is still "too early"??? all the best, drew On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 2:50 PM Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > > I have long been in the habit of building Rivendell machines with two > drives: a smaller solid-state drive for the OS, and a larger mechanical > drive, typically 2 TB, for the audio files. Rather than using > /etc/fstab, though, I have a cron job running as root that mounts the big > drive as /var/snd after booting. > > If something happens to the audio drive and someone reboots the machine, > if the drive is listed in /etc/fstab and can't be mounted, the machine > won't boot. > > But if the drive is mounted after booting, the OS will still run and I can > troubleshoot the machine remotely. Most of the stations I support are 2+ > hours drive from me, so it pays to know that I need a new drive before I > leave home. > > > Rob > > -- > Не думай что всё пропели, > Что бури все отгремели; > Готовься к великой цели, > А слава тебя найдёт. > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, ermina wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > not sure how RD4 works yet, but if your installation is on a single > > computer, you can just edit /etc/fstab to bind the path where you > > actually store your files to /var/snd; ie add a line that says: > > > > /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ /var/sndnone bind 0 0 > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > . leo > > > > On 3/26/22 8:09 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote: > >> > >> I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 version > >> of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard > setup. > >> > >> However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted > >> the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it permissions > >> per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the > >> destination file". > >> > >> The path I'm using on the new drive is > >> this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ > >> > >> What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd > >> location? > >> > >> -- > >> Seth Stevenson > >> > >> ___ > >> Rivendell-dev mailing list > >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > >> > > ___ > > Rivendell-dev mailing list > > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > >___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > -- Enjoy the *Paradise Island Cam* playing *Bahamian Or Nuttin* - https://www.paradiseislandcam.com/ ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
I have long been in the habit of building Rivendell machines with two drives: a smaller solid-state drive for the OS, and a larger mechanical drive, typically 2 TB, for the audio files. Rather than using /etc/fstab, though, I have a cron job running as root that mounts the big drive as /var/snd after booting. If something happens to the audio drive and someone reboots the machine, if the drive is listed in /etc/fstab and can't be mounted, the machine won't boot. But if the drive is mounted after booting, the OS will still run and I can troubleshoot the machine remotely. Most of the stations I support are 2+ hours drive from me, so it pays to know that I need a new drive before I leave home. Rob -- Не думай что всё пропели, Что бури все отгремели; Готовься к великой цели, А слава тебя найдёт. On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, ermina wrote: Hi, not sure how RD4 works yet, but if your installation is on a single computer, you can just edit /etc/fstab to bind the path where you actually store your files to /var/snd; ie add a line that says: /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ /var/sndnone bind 0 0 Hope this helps. . leo On 3/26/22 8:09 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote: I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 version of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard setup. However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it permissions per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the destination file". The path I'm using on the new drive is this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd location? -- Seth Stevenson ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
Hi, not sure how RD4 works yet, but if your installation is on a single computer, you can just edit /etc/fstab to bind the path where you actually store your files to /var/snd; ie add a line that says: /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ /var/sndnone bind 0 0 Hope this helps. . leo On 3/26/22 8:09 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote: I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 version of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard setup. However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it permissions per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the destination file". The path I'm using on the new drive is this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd location? -- Seth Stevenson ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
> On Sa, 26 Mar 2022 19:15:08 +> Jay Schell wrote:> > Did you create an alias (this may be the wrong term) so that /var/snd points to the new > location? < It's called a symbolic link, but I like "alias" better. I have never been able to get a sym link creation command to work. When viewing /var/snd, it needs to show the cart files, but my attempts at a sym link always showed the drive label, not the contents. So I used the gnome-disk-utility with the following steps. --delete all files in the original /var/snd and make sure its permissionsare rivendell:rivendell (owner:group)--download "gnome-disk- utility"--open Disks and select the new drive; click on the tiny gearicon; select 'modify mount options' and mount that drive to /var/snd;when you open /var/snd, it must display the file contents of the drive,and NOT just the label of the drive--make sure the drive itself, and all the file contents arerivendell:rivendell (owner:group) I am not IT savy enough to know what that utility does, but it worked for me. --Chuck ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive
Did you create an alias (this may be the wrong term) so that /var/snd points to the new location? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Seth Stevenson Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 3:09:59 PM To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: [RDD] Importing audio on new drive UF ITS CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a/AATXAJwpvXn6O2poSQ-GEOAQHdm5Tpsb2INer1nxrK8C=s40-mo] I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 version of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard setup. However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it permissions per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the destination file". The path I'm using on the new drive is this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd location? -- Seth Stevenson ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Importing audio on new drive
I using the new ubuntu studio version of Rivendell with the 4.0 version of Rivendell. I was able to import files just fine with the standard setup. However I needed to move /var/snd to a bigger second drive. I deleted the /var/snd and created one on the second drive. I give it permissions per normal. However rdimport now errors with "unable to create the destination file". The path I'm using on the new drive is this /media/rd/F00E70710E703328/var/snd/ What am I missing in order to get rivendell to see the new /var/snd location? -- Seth Stevenson ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
