Re: [RDD] Rivendell v4.0+ going forward....

[Fred Gleason]

On Oct 14, 2021, at 16:01, Timothy Elwell  wrote:
> 
> I assume like any dist-upgrade requires the changes to the repositories. I 
> did just notice my 3 system (I just updated the other day after a drive and 
> power supply crash many many months back) went from the beta 3 to the current 
> 3.6.2 (might be off on the last dot of that version). Will the 4 beta's do 
> the same, being able to update from the 4 beta to the 4 release when it comes 
> out?

It’s always good practice to start with a new install when moving from a beta 
to a production setup. That’s because the beta setups are testing not only 
Rivendell but the installer system itself. Sometimes significant issu are found 
in those as well. (See https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/issues/737 
for a current example).


> Considering for new not-currently-production builds to get ahead on it. And 
> while I can reinstall and start over, I try to not have to do any more of 
> than than necessary.

And, of course the new UbuntuStudio support opens up options for “in-place” 
major distro upgrades. I haven’t even started experimenting with that yet.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Rivendell v4.0+ going forward....

[Timothy Elwell]

On 10/14/21 11:16 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
The Rivendell Project will continue to support RHEL/CentOS 7 until it 
hits End of Life (currently set for 30 June 2024). In addition to 
that, we are adding support for v4.x to two additional distros: 
UbuntuStudio (LTS releases only) and RHEL 8.


Good to know on the distro's. I'll have to do some looking at which way 
I would want to go, but at least I have a map now. :)





It’ll take slightly more than just a yum(8) invocation to move from 
v3.x to v4.x. At a minimum, you’ll need to change one of software 
repositories to pull from a different location. It’s possible that 
other steps may required as well; detailed instructions will be 
available when we get to that point.


I assume like any dist-upgrade requires the changes to the repositories. 
I did just notice my 3 system (I just updated the other day after a 
drive and power supply crash many many months back) went from the beta 3 
to the current 3.6.2 (might be off on the last dot of that version). 
Will the 4 beta's do the same, being able to update from the 4 beta to 
the 4 release when it comes out?


Considering for new not-currently-production builds to get ahead on it. 
And while I can reinstall and start over, I try to not have to do any 
more of than than necessary.


Thanks again, Fred! It's all great work!

Tim

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell v4.0+ going forward....

[Fred Gleason]

On Oct 13, 2021, at 13:43, Timothy Elwell  wrote:
> Just curious as I start building new machines again...with the coming 
> changes/end to CentOS as we know it, is there an idea on the base platform 
> going forward for the appliance? Obviously, there's still instruction for 
> CentOS and now Ubuntu Studio. Didn't know if the aim was toward studio or if 
> the aim is something else not mentioned. 
> 
The Rivendell Project will continue to support RHEL/CentOS 7 until it hits End 
of Life (currently set for 30 June 2024). In addition to that, we are adding 
support for v4.x to two additional distros: UbuntuStudio (LTS releases only) 
and RHEL 8.

> I've been on v2+ and 3+ (CentOS) for a while and have liked the appliance way 
> of life with upgrades a simple 'yum update' away. Yeah, I can build and 
> compile and have done plenty of that but, for ease of use, the appliance has 
> been pretty much bullet proof for me, so I've become...oh, let's call it 
> complacent (lazy is probably more accurate! Ha!) 
> 
> 2nd question, will the Riv 4 beta's be upward compatible to the full release 
> when released or will it be like the 3 beta the more/less required a full 
> re-install? 
> 
It’ll take slightly more than just a yum(8) invocation to move from v3.x to 
v4.x. At a minimum, you’ll need to change one of software repositories to pull 
from a different location. It’s possible that other steps may required as well; 
detailed instructions will be available when we get to that point.

Cheers!


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[RDD] Rivendell v4.0+ going forward....

[Timothy Elwell]

Hey Fred, et al,

Just curious as I start building new machines again...with the coming 
changes/end to CentOS as we know it, is there an idea on the base 
platform going forward for the appliance? Obviously, there's still 
instruction for CentOS and now Ubuntu Studio. Didn't know if the aim was 
toward studio or if the aim is something else not mentioned.


I've been on v2+ and 3+ (CentOS) for a while and have liked the 
appliance way of life with upgrades a simple 'yum update' away. Yeah, I 
can build and compile and have done plenty of that but, for ease of use, 
the appliance has been pretty much bullet proof for me, so I've 
become...oh, let's call it complacent (lazy is probably more accurate! Ha!)


2nd question, will the Riv 4 beta's be upward compatible to the full 
release when released or will it be like the 3 beta the more/less 
required a full re-install?


Thanks for all the work all these years!

Tim

Tim Elwell
Pilot Productions

On 7/31/21 3:57 PM, Fred Gleason wrote:


New installations of Rivendell v4.x can be generated using one of the 
following two online installers:


For RedHat/CentOS 7:
https://software.paravelsystems.com/howtos/CentOS/7rd4/ 



For UbuntuStudio 20.04 LTS “Focal Fossa”:
https://software.paravelsystems.com/howtos/ubuntu/focal/ 




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