Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 14:41:10 +0100 meik michalke wrote: > well, anyway, this is a much appreciated feature already ;) i began > using the konsole immediately and find it very useful to have it all > in one application. do you know what it does on windows? do windows > users now get a bash for free? I believe the konsolepart simply doesn't exist on/for Windows, so that will simply be unavailable. > i also did like the split view of both R console and bash next to > each other, even if that was by accident. True, we might support splitting that area, with screens growing wider and wider... That sounds like more work, though. > it also reminded me of > earlier ideas we had regarding the integration of the graphics window > in RKWard's main window. True. > true, the crashes are gone. the only detail i'm not so sure about now > is that the project part not only get's created but is also > automatically presented when i chose a file in the file browser. that > could be distracting for some people. can you keep the file browser > until one explicitly selects the project button? I'll look into that. Regards Thomas pgpI4OcB4tCQV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
hi, some outstanding feedback: Am Mittwoch, 29. Januar 2020, 19:11:18 CET schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > I suppose it comes from the project plugin, then. And indeed, the > project plugin sources mention a konsolepart. No idea how and when it > would usually be activated. well, anyway, this is a much appreciated feature already ;) i began using the konsole immediately and find it very useful to have it all in one application. do you know what it does on windows? do windows users now get a bash for free? i also did like the split view of both R console and bash next to each other, even if that was by accident. it also reminded me of earlier ideas we had regarding the integration of the graphics window in RKWard's main window. > Anyway, this should now be fixed. I also fixed at least one cause of > crashes on exit. true, the crashes are gone. the only detail i'm not so sure about now is that the project part not only get's created but is also automatically presented when i chose a file in the file browser. that could be distracting for some people. can you keep the file browser until one explicitly selects the project button? viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at d-40204 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
Hi, On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:01:12 +0100 meik michalke wrote: > it's similar to what happens above -- here's how i can replicate it: > > 1. start RKWard > 2. open the R console > 3. open the file browser > 4. browse to a file in a git repo and open it in the editor > > result: the project view is created next to the file browser, and an > additional shell prompt opens right next to the R console, labelled > "current project". i wonder what happens on a windows machine ;) I suppose it comes from the project plugin, then. And indeed, the project plugin sources mention a konsolepart. No idea how and when it would usually be activated. Anyway, this should now be fixed. I also fixed at least one cause of crashes on exit. So if you see those, again, with the next build, please speak up (as usual, with steps to reproduce, if you know them). Regards Thomas pgpSY961P_SBR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
hi, Am Dienstag, 28. Januar 2020, 17:01:16 CET schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:27:08 +0100 > meik michalke wrote: > > it's a bit strange now that i often get the file manager open next to > > the projects folder, not one or the other. but only until i select > > one of their respective buttons, then the view changes to what was > > expected in the first place. > > I believe it happens, when the projects tool view gets created, while > the file manager view is already open (such as when you open a first > file belonging to a "project"). that's it, i can reliably replicate the issue this way. > > at one occasion i also had a linux console open in a split view to > > the R console which also disappeared when i selected the R console > > button and never reappeared since. > > > > this is not supposed to happen, right? > > Huh? There is a kate console plugin, but we're not loading that, yet. it's similar to what happens above -- here's how i can replicate it: 1. start RKWard 2. open the R console 3. open the file browser 4. browse to a file in a git repo and open it in the editor result: the project view is created next to the file browser, and an additional shell prompt opens right next to the R console, labelled "current project". i wonder what happens on a windows machine ;) viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at d-40204 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:27:08 +0100 meik michalke wrote: > it's a bit strange now that i often get the file manager open next to > the projects folder, not one or the other. but only until i select > one of their respective buttons, then the view changes to what was > expected in the first place. I believe it happens, when the projects tool view gets created, while the file manager view is already open (such as when you open a first file belonging to a "project"). I've also seen this happen when moving tool views around, but never bothered to debug it, properly. > at one occasion i also had a linux console open in a split view to > the R console which also disappeared when i selected the R console > button and never reappeared since. > > this is not supposed to happen, right? Huh? There is a kate console plugin, but we're not loading that, yet. And I have no idea where else a linux console could be coming from. Any idea what you did to make that happen? Regards Thomas pgp7jQw2K8rzv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
I don't have this behavior. Kind regards Stefan On January 27, 2020 10:27:08 PM UTC, meik michalke wrote: >hi, > >Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2020, 20:51:15 CET schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: >> 1) RKWard can now load ate plugins. As of now, "Search in Files", >> "Snippets", and "Projects" are hard-coded to be loaded (if they are >> available), so this brings quite a few strong new features, right there. > >it's a bit strange now that i often get the file manager open next to the >projects folder, not one or the other. but only until i select one of their >respective buttons, then the view changes to what was expected in the first >place. > >at one occasion i also had a linux console open in a split view to the R >console which also disappeared when i selected the R console button and never >reappeared since. > >this is not supposed to happen, right? > > >viele grüße :: m.eik > >-- > dipl. psych. meik michalke > institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie > abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie > heinrich-heine-universit"at d-40204 d"usseldorf --
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
hi, Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2020, 20:51:15 CET schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > 1) RKWard can now load ate plugins. As of now, "Search in Files", > "Snippets", and "Projects" are hard-coded to be loaded (if they are > available), so this brings quite a few strong new features, right there. it's a bit strange now that i often get the file manager open next to the projects folder, not one or the other. but only until i select one of their respective buttons, then the view changes to what was expected in the first place. at one occasion i also had a linux console open in a split view to the R console which also disappeared when i selected the R console button and never reappeared since. this is not supposed to happen, right? viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at d-40204 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
On January 26, 2020 6:13:46 PM UTC, meik michalke wrote: >hi, > >Am Sonntag, 26. Januar 2020, 15:19:54 CET schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: >> the idea behind changing this was to avoid confusion, as the plugin will >> not search in help files, or the output file. > >how about using the default name as stefan suggested, but explain this in the >tooltip on mouseover? >btw, this is sooo cool! combining "search in files" with "in current project" >is something i will heavily use from now on! i was used to doing this with >grep in a terminal, but this is way more comfortable :D > >also, the projects feature is so immensely helpful when i'm working on files >from different packages at once. i was also happy to see that the plugin will >automatically offer tools like gitk or git cola if installed I didn't know/notice that. Great. Thanks for sharing. > -- a real boost >in productivity! > > >viele grüße :: m.eik > Kind regards Stefan --
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
hi, Am Sonntag, 26. Januar 2020, 15:19:54 CET schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > the idea behind changing this was to avoid confusion, as the plugin will > not search in help files, or the output file. how about using the default name as stefan suggested, but explain this in the tooltip on mouseover? btw, this is sooo cool! combining "search in files" with "in current project" is something i will heavily use from now on! i was used to doing this with grep in a terminal, but this is way more comfortable :D also, the projects feature is so immensely helpful when i'm working on files from different packages at once. i was also happy to see that the plugin will automatically offer tools like gitk or git cola if installed -- a real boost in productivity! viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at d-40204 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
Hi,
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 23:27:31 +0100
Stefan Rödiger [GMX] wrote:
> regarding the new "Search in Files" naming ("Search in Scripts" in
> RKWard) I recommend to use the labels of Kate.
the idea behind changing this was to avoid confusion, as the plugin will
not search in help files, or the output file. Perhaps it would be
cleaner, if only the "Current File" and "Open Files"-strings in the
selector would be adjusted. However, I'm not sure, whether there is a
clean way to do that.
Regards
Thomas
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Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
Hi,
regarding the new "Search in Files" naming ("Search in Scripts" in
RKWard) I recommend to use the labels of Kate.
Kind regards
Stefan
On 25.01.20 20:51, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Two quick notes about the current development version of RKWard:
>
> 1) RKWard can now load ate plugins. As of now, "Search in Files",
> "Snippets", and "Projects" are hard-coded to be loaded (if they are
> available), so this brings quite a few strong new features, right there.
>
> A bunch of further plugins are available, but I'll need to add a
> settings page to configure which plugins to load.
>
> One thing to look out for when testing these new features is the
> placement of menu items. I'm not quite sure about the best approach,
> here, but e.g. I have merged the "Projects" and "Tools" top level menus
> into "Edit". There is also the question, whether actions provided by
> plugins should be visible *all* of the time, or only while the
> corresponding plugin tools windows are active.
>
> 2) If you want to give the above a try, this has just become another
> step easier on Linux / BSD: You can now run RKWard directly from the
> build tree, without "sudo make install". This way you can even test the
> development version in parallel to a regularly installed version of
> RKWard (do note that the config is shared, however).
>
> Regards
> Thomas
Re: Kate plugins - running without installing
On 25.01.20 20:51, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > Hi! hi! > > Two quick notes about the current development version of RKWard: > > 1) RKWard can now load ate plugins. As of now, "Search in Files", > "Snippets", and "Projects" are hard-coded to be loaded (if they are > available), so this brings quite a few strong new features, right there. > > A bunch of further plugins are available, but I'll need to add a > settings page to configure which plugins to load. > > One thing to look out for when testing these new features is the > placement of menu items. I'm not quite sure about the best approach, > here, but e.g. I have merged the "Projects" and "Tools" top level menus > into "Edit". There is also the question, whether actions provided by > plugins should be visible *all* of the time, or only while the > corresponding plugin tools windows are active. This is great news. I will try to get my hands on it ASAP. > > 2) If you want to give the above a try, this has just become another > step easier on Linux / BSD: You can now run RKWard directly from the > build tree, without "sudo make install". This way you can even test the > development version in parallel to a regularly installed version of > RKWard (do note that the config is shared, however). ok > > Regards > Thomas Kind regards Stefan
Kate plugins - running without installing
Hi! Two quick notes about the current development version of RKWard: 1) RKWard can now load ate plugins. As of now, "Search in Files", "Snippets", and "Projects" are hard-coded to be loaded (if they are available), so this brings quite a few strong new features, right there. A bunch of further plugins are available, but I'll need to add a settings page to configure which plugins to load. One thing to look out for when testing these new features is the placement of menu items. I'm not quite sure about the best approach, here, but e.g. I have merged the "Projects" and "Tools" top level menus into "Edit". There is also the question, whether actions provided by plugins should be visible *all* of the time, or only while the corresponding plugin tools windows are active. 2) If you want to give the above a try, this has just become another step easier on Linux / BSD: You can now run RKWard directly from the build tree, without "sudo make install". This way you can even test the development version in parallel to a regularly installed version of RKWard (do note that the config is shared, however). Regards Thomas pgp_bOCWnoCQv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
