Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-10 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/07/2016 07:00 PM, Silas Mortimer wrote:

> I don't mind sending it here.

I'm going to address the "Tie Notes at Barlines" thing not working 
directly.  By the look of things, this has been broken for a very long 
time, and it looks to be a little adventure to sort this out.

The place where you experienced the weirdness with the tied notes not 
behaving as you expected is because you are trying to put two different 
voices on the same staff.  Finale, Sibelius, and MusE Score can't do 
that either.

In the top voice, you have:

2-4-4-4-4-

In the bottom voice, you have:

2-4 4 4 4-

The notes in the bottom voice can't be tied, because they change 
pitches.  This kind of figure is extremely common in guitar music with a 
walking bass line.

To get this kind of thing entered correctly, you have to put each voice 
in a different segment, and overlap them.

This tutorial is very old, but the gist of it is still applicable today:

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/tutorials/supplemental/piano/

We have some new features that are supposed to make the job easier, but 
I just tried them, and I am not happy.  I made a feature request for a 
"Move selection to new layer" function that will automate a lot of the 
hand work and simplify this process.

Now I just need to go write the code!

You may as well hang out until I work on these issues.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-10 Thread chuck elliot
Actually there are devices that do this. I have a Roland GI 10
guitar/midi interface which is basically a real time pitch to midi
converter. It handles pitch bend too and does an impressive job
without too much delay and glitches. Paired with a midi sound module,
you can (in theory) play any instrument using the guitar as the input
device. Whether this is effective or not depends on the nature of the
target instrument; wind instruments work pretty well but piano say
is harder to mimic in terms of playing style.

Regards,
CE.


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/jun95/rolandg110.html





On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 06:20 -0400, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 04/09/2016 06:22 PM, Silas Mortimer wrote:
> 
> > Can it cover bends and vibrato on an electric guitar?
>  >
> > Unless things have changed or I simply missed how to do it, these can
> > be put in a score for electric guitar, but MIDI can't do it. Am I
> > wrong?
> 
> I'm not aware of anything that could generate the controllers for that 
> kind of thing automatically, but if you put enough care and attention 
> into it, you can probably simulate both techniques adequately using 
> pitch bend controllers.  If nothing else, you can use MIDI to trigger 
> samples, therefore MIDI can reproduce literally anything.
> 
> This kind of nuanced expression requires a great deal of hand work, but 
> MIDI can do it.
> 
> Having done it both ways, I find it much easier to play the thing than 
> to fake it with MIDI.  This is why I bought an electric guitar, actually.
> 
> > Thank you very much. I'm in no hurry. Good luck dealing with the job.
> 
> I lived through my career as a gasoline tanker driver.  It is finished.



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-10 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/09/2016 06:22 PM, Silas Mortimer wrote:

> Can it cover bends and vibrato on an electric guitar?
 >
> Unless things have changed or I simply missed how to do it, these can
> be put in a score for electric guitar, but MIDI can't do it. Am I
> wrong?

I'm not aware of anything that could generate the controllers for that 
kind of thing automatically, but if you put enough care and attention 
into it, you can probably simulate both techniques adequately using 
pitch bend controllers.  If nothing else, you can use MIDI to trigger 
samples, therefore MIDI can reproduce literally anything.

This kind of nuanced expression requires a great deal of hand work, but 
MIDI can do it.

Having done it both ways, I find it much easier to play the thing than 
to fake it with MIDI.  This is why I bought an electric guitar, actually.

> Thank you very much. I'm in no hurry. Good luck dealing with the job.

I lived through my career as a gasoline tanker driver.  It is finished.
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