Re: [Rosegarden-user] qjackctl & audio recording

[david]

On 8/29/21 5:12 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:


On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:50:25 -1000
david  wrote:


On 8/28/21 12:58 PM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 18:57:25 -1000
"David W. Jones"  wrote:



On August 27, 2021 3:30:56 PM HST, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

There's a bit of qJackctl footwork required
each time in order to get an armed RG audio
track to record a segment playback.

Qsynth  RG
left   >Rec IN L
right  >Rec IN R

RG   Sys
mast out L>  PlyBck 1
mast out R>  PlyBck 2
rec mon out L >  PlyBck 1
rec mon out R >  PlyBck 2

https://tinyurl.com/dmawy493


But I still can't get in going (it used
to work before). All I get is an empty
*.wav file in the "Manage Audio Files"
dialog.

What am I missing?

Hmm, can't all that be set up in your RG studio?

Not in RG-20.12 that I can see, but if RG
starts jack than maybe it could make these
indispensable connections automatically.
So far I've been starting things up in
this order:

qjackctl
qsynth
rosegarden

Sounds like a job for a session manager.

https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/session_management


I use Cadence to manage JACKD and that includes the Claudia session
management tool. There's also the new standalone Ubuntu Studio Tools (I
think that's the name) that was announced here on the list a couple of
weeks ago.

Sorry, I don't know how well session management tools work with RG.
Maybe others on the list can answer that.

I found this one with a very ambitious
mission statement:

https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager

But before getting into whether I can or
cannot install yet another app on my desktop
I wanna get it working as was, before
whatever it was that I screwed up, manually
in the qjackctl connections dialog :-)

Yah, that's probably a more sensible thing to do.  I have JACKD running 
all the time here, so RG doesn't start it up. Might just need a script 
somewhere in the process.


Or rename the qjackctl RC file (IIRC) and try set it up again?

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[Rosegarden-user] Transport linking - Novation Launchkey 61 and Rosegarden

[jv1--- via Rosegarden-user]

Hi all,

I use Rosegarden with a Novation Launchkey 61. I love Rosegarden. It is 
very user friendly. Specifically compared to Ardour for instance.


I noticed yesterday that Rosegarden can also receive the play, stop, 
record, commands sent from my Novation:

https://novationmusic.com/en/keys/launchkey

However the keys do not correspond with the received commands. For 
instance the record key is received as a play command in Rosegarden and 
the return key as Record.


I am wondering if Rosegarden can be configured to receive the correct 
keys. If nobody has a proper solution I will try the developers 
mailing-lijst. In that case I guess I need to change the data somewhere 
in this dir and compile Rosegarden:

https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/git/ci/master/tree/data/

Regards,

Jan




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] qjackctl & audio recording

[krsgrdn]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:50:25 -1000
david  wrote:

> On 8/28/21 12:58 PM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 18:57:25 -1000
> > "David W. Jones"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On August 27, 2021 3:30:56 PM HST, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> >>> There's a bit of qJackctl footwork required
> >>> each time in order to get an armed RG audio
> >>> track to record a segment playback.
> >>>
> >>> Qsynth  RG
> >>> left   >Rec IN L
> >>> right  >Rec IN R
> >>>
> >>> RG   Sys
> >>> mast out L>  PlyBck 1
> >>> mast out R>  PlyBck 2
> >>> rec mon out L >  PlyBck 1
> >>> rec mon out R >  PlyBck 2
> >>>
> >>> https://tinyurl.com/dmawy493
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But I still can't get in going (it used
> >>> to work before). All I get is an empty
> >>> *.wav file in the "Manage Audio Files"
> >>> dialog.
> >>>
> >>> What am I missing?
> >> Hmm, can't all that be set up in your RG studio?
> > Not in RG-20.12 that I can see, but if RG
> > starts jack than maybe it could make these
> > indispensable connections automatically.
> > So far I've been starting things up in
> > this order:
> >
> > qjackctl
> > qsynth
> > rosegarden
> 
> Sounds like a job for a session manager.
> 
> https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/session_management 
> 
> 
> I use Cadence to manage JACKD and that includes the Claudia session 
> management tool. There's also the new standalone Ubuntu Studio Tools (I 
> think that's the name) that was announced here on the list a couple of 
> weeks ago.
> 
> Sorry, I don't know how well session management tools work with RG. 
> Maybe others on the list can answer that.

I found this one with a very ambitious 
mission statement:

https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager

But before getting into whether I can or
cannot install yet another app on my desktop 
I wanna get it working as was, before 
whatever it was that I screwed up, manually 
in the qjackctl connections dialog :-)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden projects

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 27/08/2021 21:04, Will Godfrey wrote:

I have an idea that might help with several issues.

Many other programs have the concept of a project folder/directory that you
are invited to create when you start afresh. Rosegarden doesn't.
How about having this, but instead of a popup window, which is most annoying,
have a button somewhere prominent labelled 'New Project'.

Once defined by the user, Rosegarden would create it and immediately save the
current default project file inside it carrying the same name. Any MIDI or
Audio files would then be referenced directly there, rather than the current
system (possibly with any sources copied in as well).



To be totally honest I always liked the fact Rosegarden saves to a 
single file. I of course create a directory if the 'project' includes 
other stuff (such as yoshimi state file etc.). I guess the real need for 
this is when you need audio?


The advantage of Rosegarden vs. e.g. Ardour or QTractor, is that you can 
'just' fire it up and start making music without having to decide a 
project name, decide a directory, etc. If / when you decide to save you 
just do it with a single command... In 'extreme' cases you can even 
start rosegarden without jack, it still work and you can maybe quickly 
input notation or do something without it complaining too much.



For compatibility, loading any existing project file could either regard the
existing location of that file as the project directory for all related
audio/Rosegarden files or offer to create a new directory carrying that
name and moving the file (and any related audio ones) it into it, so turning it
into a complete project.

This is actually what I do manually every time I start. A typical one is:

/data/Source/0-Albums/Quietly Fading/
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav.pk
Mystery.bld
Mystery_Guitar.wav
Mystery.rg
Mystery.xmz



But in that case isn't only the .rg and the .wav and .pk files 
Rosegarden-relevant?


I also usually put yoshimi files in a same directory if Yoshimi is 
involved, but - for instnace - I have a unique directory for soundfonts 
/SFZ etc. and wouldn't want them replicated.


I know the problem of 'self-contained' audio (DAW) project is 
essentially unsolvable for all situations (add plugins and complexity 
increases exponentially...).


Lorenzo


So that's the two audio conversion files,
My manually created info file,
The originating audio file,
Rosgarden's file,
Yoshimi's file,





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