Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
Closed #2755 as completed via 7f59c7dd2f4ff1476bec5c59f37babb1fd231e5a. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#event-11755075899 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
As for arg2 and the question of "should it be an aggregate count?", I've come to realize that it actually should **not** be an aggregate since that would prevent the script from detecting a package upgrade. It would also be inconsistent with regular triggers. Hence, no aggregate count in #2883. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1924136730 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
> Note that there's no technical reason for _not_ adding the second argument > (the number of triggering packages) to transaction scriplets here, too. It's > the same code path underneath. OK, looking closer, the challenge with transactional file triggers and package counts is that we can't easily obtain the correct value for each involved package since we're iterating through *all files* in the transaction set, as opposed to each transaction element separately (as we do with non-transactional file triggers). This is done for performance reasons (I suppose) so changing it just to add a second argument to transactional file triggers doesn't seem worth it. After all, the original requirements of this ticket explicitly mention non-trans file triggers. I guess @pmatilai knew what he was talking about when filing this ticket, after all :smile: > Whether it's useful or not is another question but I'll probably lean towards > consistency here and include it. So nope, taking it back. Let's stick with the plan and only do this for the non-trans variants. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1908268213 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
Note that there's no technical reason for *not* adding the second argument (the number of triggering packages) to transaction scriplets here, too. It's the same code path underneath. Whether it's useful or not is another question but I'll probably lean towards consistency here and include it. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1893488090 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
Good point! We shouldn't just blindly copy what the normal triggers do here. There's enough difference that it makes sense to step back for a moment and think about what functionality and use cases we really want to cover. Thanks, I'll take that into account :smile: -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1878665857 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
The thing to ponder about is whether there are other arguments that should be passed in addition or in stead of these. The only "vision" or "design" behind this ticket description is "something close enough to other scriptlets that someone familiar with should feel at home". Which may leave some room for improvement from a more technical perspective :laughing: -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1878658506 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
Thanks, the part about usefulness is actually on point :smile: That said, I haven't given it too much thought either, this is just the most obvious solution that comes to mind. I'll ponder about it a bit more but there's probably not much to ponder about anyway. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1878622612 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
Aggregate is what I thought of when writing the description, I don't see anything else making much sense. But, it's not like I've given this any deep meditation. Usefulness is all that matters for the arguments, otherwise we could just as well not bother :sweat_smile: -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1878608308 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
> * Non-trans scriptlets have should get a second argument reflecting the > triggering package count I wonder if we want the triggering package count (`arg2`) to be an *aggregate* count of all the triggering packages or just that of the *first* match? There's a subtle difference in the semantics between regular triggers and file triggers in the way they are fired. A regular trigger can only ever be triggered by *one* package (e.g. `%triggerin -- foo, bar, baz` means "fire if any of these packages is installed"), whereas a file trigger can be triggered by *multiple* packages (e.g. `%filetriggerin -- /etc/foo.d` means "fire if any file with such a prefix is installed, regardless of which package it belongs to"). In both cases, the trigger only executes once, however the semantics of "which package triggered it" differs. Therefore, for regular triggers, `arg2` is straightforward (it's always the one triggering package), however for file triggers, it's not. As an example, consider the following scenario: ``` # bar.spec: %filetriggerin -- /etc/foo.d # foo.spec: %files /etc/foo.d/foo.conf # baz.spec: %files /etc/foo.d/baz.conf ``` If `bar` is installed first, installing `foo` or `baz` afterwards results in the trigger being run once for *each* of those, so the triggering count (`arg2`) is straighforward (same as with regular triggers). However, if `foo` *and* `baz` are installed first, installing `bar` afterwards results in the trigger being run once for *both* of those (with both filenames served via stdin), so the trigerring count (`arg2`) is now ambiguous - it can either be the count of `foo` *or* `baz`, or it can be the sum of both. My take: The count should be an aggregate since that enables a file trigger script to detect when *all* the files subject to the prefix are being removed (which is one of the purposes of the arguments in the first place). Any thoughts? -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755#issuecomment-1878388267 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint
[Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: file trigger scriptlet arguments (Issue #2755)
Splitting this from #2655 as this is a clearly separate thing that should be doable without massive redesign of the whole thing: - First argument should reflect the triggered package count - Non-trans scriptlets have should get a second argument reflecting the triggering package count -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2755 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ___ Rpm-maint mailing list Rpm-maint@lists.rpm.org http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-maint