Re: Some questions on directions ahead

2011-06-13 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jeff Johnson  wrote:
>

An acknowledgement to all your responses here, thanks.

>
> Not much to discuss. It's nobody's "business" but mine, no "community" there 
> at all,
> just a bunch of gawking gossiping phear mongering and FUD sucking paparazzi 
> ...
>

Yes, I understood as much after some research.

Keep up the good work, Jeff.

>
> 73 de Jeff

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Re: Some questions on directions ahead

2011-06-13 Thread Jeff Johnson

On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Sriram Narayanan wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> I've got some questions:
> 1. Which rpm5 should we consider ?
> I see that the website still mentioned 5.3.6 as stable, and 5.3.7 as
> testing, though 5.3.11 was released a few days ago.
> 

Releases are time based, there's a release at the beginning of each month.

The benefit there is that a "fix" opportunity is never more than 30 days away.
The cost of monthly releases means that there's less time to detect and
report issues (but "continuous integration" builds under buildbots
detect most obvious failures).

The rpm-5_3 branch is the "production" branch. So there's no
new "features" to speak of and no reason not to prefer the latest
afaik. Any issues reported will be dealt with as rapidly as possible.

> This is just a case of the website not being updated ?
> 

Yes.

> 2. What are the plans for rpm 5.4 ?

ATM, rpm-5.4 is essentially the same as rpm-5.3, a place for
fixes to be devised for Mandriva.

Attempting multi-threaded installs is likely in rpm-5.4, as
is switching from C -> C++ for building. (Note that all that is
anticpated is a build with CC=g++ not a rewrite into C++).

> Is this what will be the next development branch ? Would it be fine

Yes.

> for the Belenix team to stick to rpm 5.3.11 for the next three months
> while we get other stuff sorted out and to then move to 5.4 (or
> newer), or should we look at that right now ?
> 

rpm 5.3.x are the best "production" bits available atm.

> 3. What is the reality about rpm6 ?

The reality is that I unplugged a DNS record for 10 days and then
plugged it back in.

> I was trying to figure out how to initialize an rpmdb and I searched
> for "mandriva rpm5" and I ended up at some pages that are talking
> about rpm6.org.
> I checked and saw that rpm6.org gets us back to rpm5.org.

Yep. That will likely change this summer. I haven't a clue how or why yet …

> What's the real news, and what are the community directions ? I've not
> seen any discussion around this on the rpm5 mailing lists.
> 

Not much to discuss. It's nobody's "business" but mine, no "community" there at 
all,
just a bunch of gawking gossiping phear mongering and FUD sucking paparazzi ...


73 de Jeff

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Some questions on directions ahead

2011-06-11 Thread Sriram Narayanan
Hi all:

I've got some questions:
1. Which rpm5 should we consider ?
I see that the website still mentioned 5.3.6 as stable, and 5.3.7 as
testing, though 5.3.11 was released a few days ago.

This is just a case of the website not being updated ?

2. What are the plans for rpm 5.4 ?
Is this what will be the next development branch ? Would it be fine
for the Belenix team to stick to rpm 5.3.11 for the next three months
while we get other stuff sorted out and to then move to 5.4 (or
newer), or should we look at that right now ?

3. What is the reality about rpm6 ?
I was trying to figure out how to initialize an rpmdb and I searched
for "mandriva rpm5" and I ended up at some pages that are talking
about rpm6.org.
I checked and saw that rpm6.org gets us back to rpm5.org.
What's the real news, and what are the community directions ? I've not
seen any discussion around this on the rpm5 mailing lists.

-- Sriram
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Belenix: www.belenix.org
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