Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-31 Thread Matt Wynne


On 30 Dec 2009, at 22:31, Ashley Moran wrote:

Wasn't expecting you to drop everything and build a matcher hosting  
platform :)


I think he should. It is Christmas, and it's not like David ever does  
anything else for the community ;)


cheers,
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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-30 Thread Ashley Moran

On 29 Dec 2009, at 15:59, David Chelimsky wrote:

 I started http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/matcher-libraries. Please 
 feel free to modify/add. 

I like!  A wiki solves 90% of problems like this with 2% of the effort.  I 
hadn't realised the wiki had moved along - unlike Cucumber, I still see the 
static site as the primary reference.

Wasn't expecting you to drop everything and build a matcher hosting platform :)

Cheers
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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-29 Thread Ashley Moran

On 28 Dec 2009, at 16:27, David Chelimsky wrote:

 For most users, gems are the easiest answer. By all means, host source on 
 github if you want people to contribute, or have a place to inspect code, but 
 you don't need a public source repository in order to push gems to gemcutter.

A standard location for RSpec matchers would be pretty handy though, WDYT?

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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-29 Thread David Chelimsky
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Ashley Moran ashley.mo...@patchspace.co.uk
 wrote:


 On 28 Dec 2009, at 16:27, David Chelimsky wrote:

  For most users, gems are the easiest answer. By all means, host source on
 github if you want people to contribute, or have a place to inspect code,
 but you don't need a public source repository in order to push gems to
 gemcutter.

 A standard location for RSpec matchers would be pretty handy though, WDYT?


First, I have no cycles to start setting something up like this for a while
now. I'm trying to wrap up the loose ends on the book and get it to
production. After that, any spare time I have is going to be devoted to
getting the rspec-2.0 and rspec-rails-2.0 (for rails-3.0) projects rolling
in earnest.

That said, I definitely think we need a home for information about matchers.
Hosting them, however, is something I'd rather leave to the professionals :)

I've imagined a website where folks can list info about matcher libraries
and others can comment and possibly vote on them. If anybody wants to
volunteer to drive this in the short run, that would be great, but I won't
be able to do it myself for several months.

Cheers,
David
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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-29 Thread Ed Howland
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:09 AM, David Chelimsky dchelim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Ashley Moran
 ashley.mo...@patchspace.co.uk wrote:

 On 28 Dec 2009, at 16:27, David Chelimsky wrote:

 First, I have no cycles to start setting something up like this for a while
 now. I'm trying to wrap up the loose ends on the book and get it to
 production. After that, any spare time I have is going to be devoted to
 getting the rspec-2.0 and rspec-rails-2.0 (for rails-3.0) projects rolling
 in earnest.

Good luck on the book. I am eager to buy it!

 That said, I definitely think we need a home for information about matchers.
 Hosting them, however, is something I'd rather leave to the professionals :)
 I've imagined a website where folks can list info about matcher libraries
 and others can comment and possibly vote on them. If anybody wants to
 volunteer to drive this in the short run, that would be great, but I won't
 be able to do it myself for several months.
 Cheers,
 David

Just a suggestion, several other projects have contributions listed on
their Git hub wiki. Can we create a page for them, linking to other
Github accounts. I don't knoe about voting and such, but it might be a
start. The rspec.info page can just link to the Github wiki for a user
submitted  contributions page and people can go from there. Thereby
offloading the responsibility.

If I can help help in any way, let me know.

Ed


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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-29 Thread David Chelimsky
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:09 AM, David Chelimsky dchelim...@gmail.com
 wrote: That said, I definitely think we need a home for information about
 matchers.
  Hosting them, however, is something I'd rather leave to the professionals
 :)
  I've imagined a website where folks can list info about matcher libraries
  and others can comment and possibly vote on them. If anybody wants to
  volunteer to drive this in the short run, that would be great, but I
 won't
  be able to do it myself for several months.
  Cheers,
  David

 Just a suggestion, several other projects have contributions listed on
 their Git hub wiki. Can we create a page for them, linking to other
 Github accounts. I don't knoe about voting and such, but it might be a
 start. The rspec.info page can just link to the Github wiki for a user
 submitted  contributions page and people can go from there. Thereby
 offloading the responsibility.

 If I can help help in any way, let me know.


I started http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/matcher-libraries. Please
feel free to modify/add.

Ed

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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-28 Thread David Chelimsky
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I have a custom matcher that I call XMLDiff that takes an actual
 XML string and an expected one and uses RSpec's normal line differ to
 show the difference at the node level. It uses a method called
 be_functionaly_eql, because two XML strings can be the same regardless
 of whitespece. I.e. they are functionaly equivalent. If you ran both
 through the same parser, they would (should) result in the same
 behavior. So:

  actual_xml.should be_functionally_eql(xmlstring ... )

 If they are not, you get a context diff right to the element level.
 Useful for finding errors in long XML strings.

 I have searched for such a thing to no avail. There may be other
 solutions and I;d be interested in seeing them. But this is what I
 came up with.

 The question is, how would you recommend sharing it? I am new to
 gem-ing, but can it be packaheged that way, or is there some other
 method for sharing custom matchers? I can host it on Github, if that
 is a recommended way to do so.


For most users, gems are the easiest answer. By all means, host source on
github if you want people to contribute, or have a place to inspect code,
but you don't need a public source repository in order to push gems to
gemcutter.

HTH,
David


 Thanks
 Ed


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Re: [rspec-users] Submitting a Custom Matcher: gem or other method?

2009-12-28 Thread Ed Howland
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM, David Chelimsky dchelim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I have a custom matcher that I call XMLDiff that takes an actual
 XML string and an expected one and uses RSpec's normal line differ to
 show the difference at the node level. It uses a method called
 be_functionaly_eql, because two XML strings can be the same regardless
 of whitespece. I.e. they are functionaly equivalent. If you ran both
 through the same parser, they would (should) result in the same
 behavior. So:

  actual_xml.should be_functionally_eql(xmlstring ... )

 If they are not, you get a context diff right to the element level.
 Useful for finding errors in long XML strings.

 I have searched for such a thing to no avail. There may be other
 solutions and I;d be interested in seeing them. But this is what I
 came up with.

 The question is, how would you recommend sharing it? I am new to
 gem-ing, but can it be packaheged that way, or is there some other
 method for sharing custom matchers? I can host it on Github, if that
 is a recommended way to do so.

 For most users, gems are the easiest answer. By all means, host source on
 github if you want people to contribute, or have a place to inspect code,
 but you don't need a public source repository in order to push gems to
 gemcutter.
 HTH,

Yes it does. That was my plan, to add a gem to my github account. I'll
search out other DSLs for RSpec and see how they packaged them as a
gem. I imagine the easiest way to use it is to add the require to
spec_helper.rb (assuming you have one) and then call the
be_functionally_eql in your specs as normal.

Thanks,

And Happy New Year!
Ed


 David


 Thanks
 Ed


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