Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-27 Thread L. A. Walsh

Kevin Korb wrote:

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I wasn't objecting to the use of multiple file systems.  I have a
bunch of them too.  I was objecting to the use of partitions to
achieve multiple files systems.  Logical volume management has been
available for a long time and now we also have access to file systems
that include such features.


I use the terms synonymously.

I'm doing the snapshots via lvm and rsync.  Create the dynamic snapshot
vol once a day, then use rsync once a day to copy all the new files off
to another fixed snap that contains all of the files that changed that
day.

I then set that up to provide Previous Versions in the properties
window on Win 7.

Fixed partitioning, I still use on my system drive for for boot  OS.
Makes for more reliability, though systemd wants everything in /usr and
/usr/share mounted at boot time along w/root, and that's causing a bit
of an annoyance -- a more lovely gotcha, (my root and /usr are
separate partitions), they moved mount from /bin to /usr/bin and left
a 'mount' symlink to the new location on /usr.

Of course little thought was given to how one would mount /usr in order
to be able to access mount, but this seem typical of the thought going
into the systemd changes...



 lvs

 LV   VG  Attr  LSize   Pool Origin Data%
 Backups  Backups -wc-ao---  10.91t
 Home Dataowc-aos--   1.50t
 Home-2014.06.25-03.07.08 Data-wc-ao---   3.84g
 Home-2014.07.03-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   2.33g
 Home-2014.07.07-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   1.37g
 Home-2014.07.09-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   2.45g
 Home-2014.07.11-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   5.36g
 Home-2014.07.13-03.07.04 Data-wc-ao---   4.32g
 Home-2014.07.15-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---  21.59g
 Home-2014.07.17-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   2.30g
 Home-2014.07.18-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   2.26g
 Home-2014.07.19-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao---   2.25g
 Home-2014.07.20-03.07.04 Data-wc-ao---   1.71g
 Home-2014.07.21-03.07.03 Data-wc-ao--- 485.62g
 Home-2014.07.25-11.10.31 Data-wi-ao--- 656.00m
 Home-2014.07.25-11.14.30 Dataswi-aos--   1.50t  Home 0.11
 Home.diffData-wi-ao--- 512.00g
 Home3Data-wc-ao---   1.50t
 MediaData-wc-a   7.28t
 ShareData-wc-a   1.50t
 Squid_Cache  Data-wc-ao--- 128.00g
 UsrShare Data-wc-ao---  50.00g
 Media_Back   HnS -wi-a   8.00t
 ShareHnS -wi-ao---   1.50t
 Squid_Cache  HnS -wi-a 128.00g
 Sys  HnS -wc-a  96.00g
 Sysboot  HnS -wc-a   4.00g
 Sysvar   HnS -wc-a  28.00g
 UsrShare HnS -wi-a  50.00g
 Win  HnS -wi-a   1.00t
 oHomeHnS -wi-ao---   1.00t
 MediaMedia   -wi-ao---   7.28t
---

So in the above, all the dated Home partitions are frozen snaps that
only hold files changed on that day.  The are not my backup solution,
but a convenience so I can use the previous versions feature in windows.

The last snap, will get used with the current base and the output sent to
Home.diff, from there, the script computes the needed size, creates
it, throws xfs on it, and copies the data to it.  Script also prunes
old snapshots keeping the last week, but going to every other day , then
every 3rd and then 4th.. and that's about as far as this goes back.

Daily backups using a tower of hanoi ordering are used for actual backup
purposes.

It was the base vol  active snap writing diffs to a side partition where
I got the original errors -- since it is working on the whole partition,
it was running as root.

Does that give enough technical detail about my use case?  ;-)

Oh, forgot the files at the end of the push


my $rcmd = [$Rsync]; push( @$rcmd, qw( --8-bit-output --acls 
--archive --hard-links --human-readable --no-inc-recursive 
--one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs --whole-file --xattrs ), 
--compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);
Should add : push @$rcmd, $OAsnap_lvh-fs_mp . /., 
$bdiff_lvh-fs_mp . /;


for src and dest (OA=Oldest active snap (the dated active home, above, 
and the diff

dir for the base (home.diff).


Transferring with --compare-dest? I thought that the data was
being moved from one filesystem to another, that seldomly calls for
usage of --compare-dest.  
Data from the source gets moved to the diff volume after comparing it 
against the

base I only want to copy over the diffs for a given day.

It seems to me that the perl script being
used is meant for another purpose, and it's being used
inappropriately here. Why not just use rsync directly? That way
maybe we here on the mailing list can make sense of what's actually
happening. Otherwise take it up with the author of that script.


   ?!?!  

Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread L. A. Walsh

I have a regular script I run to make static snapshots of my home
file system, with each being all the files that changed in the past 24 
hours.


I just moved my home partition to a new harddisk w/more space.

I ran the util and have gotten odd results each time I ran it.

This one bothers me... as I'm not sure why the attrs would be missing.

How can the names be transfered but no content?  Is that possible?

Ideas?

Thanks!


Version info:


 rsync --version

rsync  version 3.1.0  protocol version 31
Copyright (C) 1996-2013 by Andrew Tridgell, Wayne Davison, and others.
Web site: http://rsync.samba.org/
Capabilities:
   64-bit files, 64-bit inums, 64-bit timestamps, 64-bit long ints,
   socketpairs, hardlinks, symlinks, IPv6, batchfiles, inplace,
   append, ACLs, xattrs, iconv, symtimes, prealloc, no SLP


 uname -a
Linux Ishtar 3.15.6-Isht-Van #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 19 12:31:28 PDT 2014 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


File system info:


 xfs_info /home
meta-data=/dev/mapper/Data-Home  isize=512agcount=32, 
agsize=12582896 blks

=   sectsz=4096  attr=2
data =   bsize=4096   blocks=402652672, imaxpct=5
=   sunit=16 swidth=16 blks
naming   =version 2  bsize=4096   ascii-ci=0
log  =internal   bsize=4096   blocks=32768, version=2
=   sectsz=4096  sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1
realtime =none   extsz=4096   blocks=0, rtextents=0
---

Command (called from a script file in perl):

my $rcmd = [$Rsync];
push( @$rcmd, qw(
   --8-bit-output --acls --archive
   --hard-links --human-readable
   --no-inc-recursive --one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs
   --whole-file --xattrs ),
   --compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);




output of the program:

Rsync with 9 excludes from config file...
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Artists
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Avatars/Production
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Dragonaut-The Resonance
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/HighSchoolDxD
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/I can't do H
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Konachan
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Maria-sama-ga-miteru
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Miscellaneous
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/SwordArtOnline
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/To Love Ru
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/kiddy grade
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/lastfm
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/reality
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/P/blib
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/mem
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/orig
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/test
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/oldmapdrives
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/reg
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/tmp
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/vbs
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/root/1223/etc/fonts
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/root/1223/etc/local
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/root/1223/etc/samba/save0820/internals
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/root/1223/selinux
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/splunk/bin

rsync took 135m, 26s

Why would or how would the files and attr-names get transfered but be 
missing?



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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread Kevin Korb
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On 07/26/2014 01:52 AM, L. A. Walsh wrote:
 I have a regular script I run to make static snapshots of my
 home file system, with each being all the files that changed in the
 past 24 hours.

I am not clear about the nature of this script.  Please provide more
details.

 I just moved my home partition to a new harddisk w/more space.

Home Partition?  Are we in 1995?  Why would you have a partition
mounted anywhere other than /boot ?

 I ran the util and have gotten odd results each time I ran it.

What util?  What results?

 This one bothers me... as I'm not sure why the attrs would be
 missing.

Is it really that just extended attributes are missing?  You seemed to
be in a panic.

 How can the names be transfered but no content?  Is that possible?

I am uncertain what this question means.  Maybe I have interpreted the
rest of your email in the wrong context.  Maybe not.  I am not sure.
Please provide technical details.

 Ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 Version info:
 
 rsync --version
 rsync  version 3.1.0  protocol version 31 Copyright (C) 1996-2013
 by Andrew Tridgell, Wayne Davison, and others. Web site:
 http://rsync.samba.org/ Capabilities: 64-bit files, 64-bit inums,
 64-bit timestamps, 64-bit long ints, socketpairs, hardlinks,
 symlinks, IPv6, batchfiles, inplace, append, ACLs, xattrs, iconv,
 symtimes, prealloc, no SLP
 
 uname -a
 Linux Ishtar 3.15.6-Isht-Van #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 19 12:31:28 PDT
 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 File system info:
 
 xfs_info /home
 meta-data=/dev/mapper/Data-Home  isize=512agcount=32, 
 agsize=12582896 blks =   sectsz=4096  attr=2 
 data =   bsize=4096   blocks=402652672,
 imaxpct=5 =   sunit=16 swidth=16 blks 
 naming   =version 2  bsize=4096   ascii-ci=0 log
 =internal   bsize=4096   blocks=32768, version=2 =
 sectsz=4096  sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none
 extsz=4096   blocks=0, rtextents=0 ---
 
 Command (called from a script file in perl):
 
 my $rcmd = [$Rsync]; push( @$rcmd, qw( --8-bit-output --acls
 --archive --hard-links --human-readable --no-inc-recursive
 --one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs --whole-file --xattrs ), 
 --compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);
 
 
 
 
 output of the program:
 
 Rsync with 9 excludes from config file... Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Artists Missing
 abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Avatars/Production 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Dragonaut-The
 Resonance Missing abbreviated xattr value,
 trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/HighSchoolDxD 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/I can't do H 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Konachan Missing
 abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Maria-sama-ga-miteru

 
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Miscellaneous 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/SwordArtOnline 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/To Love Ru Missing
 abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/kiddy grade Missing
 abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/lastfm Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/reality Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/P/blib Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/mem Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/orig Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/lib/test Missing abbreviated xattr
 value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/oldmapdrives Missing abbreviated
 xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/reg Missing abbreviated xattr value,
 trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/tmp 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/Bliss/law.V2/bin/vbs Missing abbreviated xattr value,
 trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for /home.diff/root/1223/etc/fonts 
 Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
 /home.diff/root/1223/etc/local Missing abbreviated xattr value,

Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sat 26 Jul 2014, Kevin Korb wrote:
 
  I just moved my home partition to a new harddisk w/more space.
 
 Home Partition?  Are we in 1995?  Why would you have a partition
 mounted anywhere other than /boot ?

Didn't we just have this discussion already recently?
There are valid reasons to have separate filesystems.
My /home is encrypted, the rest isn't. I have a separate XFS filesystem
as I find that the best option for handling really large files.

The relevancy of the separate filesystem to the question isn't clear to
me either, so why bring it up?


  my $rcmd = [$Rsync]; push( @$rcmd, qw( --8-bit-output --acls
  --archive --hard-links --human-readable --no-inc-recursive
  --one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs --whole-file --xattrs ), 
  --compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);

Transferring with --compare-dest? I thought that the data was being
moved from one filesystem to another, that seldomly calls for usage of
--compare-dest.  It seems to me that the perl script being used is meant
for another purpose, and it's being used inappropriately here.
Why not just use rsync directly? That way maybe we here on the mailing
list can make sense of what's actually happening. Otherwise take it up
with the author of that script.


Paul
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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread L. A. Walsh

Kevin Korb wrote:

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On 07/26/2014 01:52 AM, L. A. Walsh wrote:
  

I have a regular script I run to make static snapshots of my
home file system, with each being all the files that changed in the
past 24 hours.



I am not clear about the nature of this script.  Please provide more
details.
  
It's a script that uses the rsync command listed below.  It's the rsync 
command

below that that issued the error messages.
  

I just moved my home partition to a new harddisk w/more space.



Home Partition?  Are we in 1995?  Why would you have a partition
mounted anywhere other than /boot ?
  


   My mom and dad put things on 1 partition, so do many non-computer
types.  It's not flexible or safe enough for my needs.  How would you 
separate out
programs and data?  How do you upgrade your OS without destroying your 
data?
How do you implement different backup policies for different types of 
data? 

If you want to move your home partition to a different part of the disk 
or with

different make params or even a different file system, how do you do that?

When you move your home partition, to a new disk, how do you switch out the
home, or media, or whatever partition without rebooting?  This isn't 
MS-DOS or
Windows... If you have everything formatted into one partition, how do 
you make
snapshots.  If you only have 1 partition, where you do daily backups 
to?  You DO
run daily backups, don't you? 

  

I ran the util and have gotten odd results each time I ran it.



What util?  What results?
  

-
The results I posted below -- the util.. um... gee, let me think... I'm 
posting to
an rsync list maybe it was visicalc?... nah... rsync! what would I 
be posting to

this list for if this wasn't about rsync?

  

This one bothers me... as I'm not sure why the attrs would be
missing.



Is it really that just extended attributes are missing?  You seemed to
be in a panic.
  


Panic would be to my state like like famine to my missing my afternoon 
snack.


Concern!=panic.
  

How can the names be transfered but no content?  Is that possible?





I am uncertain what this question means.  Maybe I have interpreted the
rest of your email in the wrong context.  Maybe not.  I am not sure.
Please provide technical details.
  
I thought I did provide the tech details... file system, rsync command 
that produced it,

kernel version. file system params...what more did you have in mind?


Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/SwordArtOnline 
The name trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT is the name of an extended attribute..

For some reason, the name is present in the index of extattrs, but the
content associated with that ACL is missing.

Another reason for splitting up file systems:... did you notice the execution
time at the end: rsync took 135m, 26s.   Do you know how long it would take
if I added about 20x to that space?  What's this about 1995?  Do you still
have the same data needs now that you did in 95?  


But all that's apart from the output of the util (that this list is about) 
with
it's version number listed below even!  Cripes.


  

Ideas?

Thanks!


Version info:



rsync --version
  

rsync  version 3.1.0  protocol version 31 Copyright (C) 1996-2013
by Andrew Tridgell, Wayne Davison, and others. Web site:
http://rsync.samba.org/ Capabilities: 64-bit files, 64-bit inums,
64-bit timestamps, 64-bit long ints, socketpairs, hardlinks,
symlinks, IPv6, batchfiles, inplace, append, ACLs, xattrs, iconv,
symtimes, prealloc, no SLP



uname -a
  

Linux Ishtar 3.15.6-Isht-Van #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 19 12:31:28 PDT
2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

File system info:



xfs_info /home
  
meta-data=/dev/mapper/Data-Home  isize=512agcount=32, 
agsize=12582896 blks =   sectsz=4096  attr=2 
data =   bsize=4096   blocks=402652672,
imaxpct=5 =   sunit=16 swidth=16 blks 
naming   =version 2  bsize=4096   ascii-ci=0 log

=internal   bsize=4096   blocks=32768, version=2 =
sectsz=4096  sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none
extsz=4096   blocks=0, rtextents=0 ---

Command (called from a script file in perl):

my $rcmd = [$Rsync]; push( @$rcmd, qw( --8-bit-output --acls
--archive --hard-links --human-readable --no-inc-recursive
--one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs --whole-file --xattrs ), 
--compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);





output of the program:

Rsync with 9 excludes from config file... Missing abbreviated xattr
value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Artists Missing
abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Avatars/Production 
Missing abbreviated xattr value, trusted.SGI_ACL_DEFAULT, for 
/home.diff/Bliss/Documents/law/Pictures/Scans/Dragonaut-The

Resonance 

Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread L. A. Walsh

Kevin Korb wrote:



I ran the util and have gotten odd results each time I ran it.


What util?  What results?
  


Besides the ones I included in the previous email, I ALSO experienced this:
(from bug

https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10724):

  The above was just a toy example designed to illustrate the issue.  In
practice, rsync 3.1.1 left dozens of such ghost directories inside my
--backup-dir.

-

I ran out of space because of it... creating well over 100,000 empty
directories that took up 400M space (on a 600M partition).  I thought
it might have been a fluke which was why I didn't bother to detail
it, but seeing this report -- pretty much cinches it.

Copying the command from below as run from my script:


my $rcmd = [$Rsync]; push( @$rcmd, qw( --8-bit-output --acls
--archive --hard-links --human-readable --no-inc-recursive
--one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs --whole-file --xattrs ), 
--compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);

So I am comparing a today snapshot with yesterday's and dumping the 
difference

to a third partition.

So that's the other weirdness I was seeing.  Do you have a better picture
now?




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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread Wayne Davison
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:52 PM, L. A. Walsh rs...@tlinx.org wrote:

 Why would or how would the files and attr-names get transfered but be
 missing?


Give 3.1.1 a try -- it has a fix in it for miss-sorted attr names when
running as non-root.  Alternately, try running (at least the receiving
side) as root.  Here's the NEWS entry for this fix:

- Fixed a bug in the xattr-finding code that could make a non-root-run
receiver not able to find some xattr numbers.


..wayne..
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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread L. A. Walsh



Wayne Davison wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:52 PM, L. A. Walsh rs...@tlinx.org 
mailto:rs...@tlinx.org wrote:


Why would or how would the files and attr-names get transfered but
be missing?


Give 3.1.1 a try -- it has a fix in it for miss-sorted attr names when 
running as non-root.  Alternately, try running (at least the receiving 
side) as root.  Here's the NEWS entry for this fix:


- Fixed a bug in the xattr-finding code that could make a non-root-run receiver 
not able to find some xattr numbers.


Since it was generating a volume snapshot, it was already running
as root -- and it was a local - local copy.

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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread Kevin Korb
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I wasn't objecting to the use of multiple file systems.  I have a
bunch of them too.  I was objecting to the use of partitions to
achieve multiple files systems.  Logical volume management has been
available for a long time and now we also have access to file systems
that include such features.

On 07/26/2014 04:06 AM, Paul Slootman wrote:
 On Sat 26 Jul 2014, Kevin Korb wrote:
 
 I just moved my home partition to a new harddisk w/more space.
 
 Home Partition?  Are we in 1995?  Why would you have a partition 
 mounted anywhere other than /boot ?
 
 Didn't we just have this discussion already recently? There are
 valid reasons to have separate filesystems. My /home is encrypted,
 the rest isn't. I have a separate XFS filesystem as I find that the
 best option for handling really large files.
 
 The relevancy of the separate filesystem to the question isn't
 clear to me either, so why bring it up?
 
 
 my $rcmd = [$Rsync]; push( @$rcmd, qw( --8-bit-output --acls 
 --archive --hard-links --human-readable --no-inc-recursive 
 --one-file-system --prune-empty-dirs --whole-file --xattrs ), 
 --compare-dest=$base_lvh-fs_mp/.);
 
 Transferring with --compare-dest? I thought that the data was
 being moved from one filesystem to another, that seldomly calls for
 usage of --compare-dest.  It seems to me that the perl script being
 used is meant for another purpose, and it's being used
 inappropriately here. Why not just use rsync directly? That way
 maybe we here on the mailing list can make sense of what's actually
 happening. Otherwise take it up with the author of that script.
 
 
 Paul
 

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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 07/26/2014 03:34:23 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
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 I wasn't objecting to the use of multiple file systems.  I have a
 bunch of them too.  I was objecting to the use of partitions to
 achieve multiple files systems.  Logical volume management has been
 available for a long time and now we also have access to file systems
 that include such features.

I too like logical volume management but that does not mean
it's right for everyone.  E.g. chasing badspot block numbers
back and forth between the underlying media and the file
system makes me cranky.



Karl k...@meme.com
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Re: Concern: rsync failing to find some attributes in a file transfer?

2014-07-26 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Kevin Korb k...@sanitarium.net wrote:
 I just moved my home partition to a new harddisk w/more space.

 Home Partition?  Are we in 1995?  Why would you have a partition
 mounted anywhere other than /boot ?

That's a bit harsh, particularly considering that having a /home
partition never really stopped being useful.

Having a separate partition for user files means that if one (of
potentially many) user(s) fills up the /home partition, the machine's
OS files don't get messed up when written to, as a painful side
effect.  Both kinds of write failures are bad, but they needn't be
concomitant.

Also, some people might just have multiple disks in the same system;
or be using a network filesystem like NFS, CIFS, sshfs, c.
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