[RollTideFan] Michael Jackson found not guilty

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Laborde
on all 10 charges.

What a crock of shit. No celebrity can get convicted in California.





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[RollTideFan] MJ NOT GUILTY ALL TEN COUNTS

2005-06-13 Thread Devonna Snuggs
AMAZING!


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Re: [RollTideFan] MJ NOT GUILTY ALL TEN COUNTS

2005-06-13 Thread Jeff Todd
Good thing he ain't Catholic.

Slef E.

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 Ridiculous.  That man is a pervert.  It disgusting 
 that he can bugger little
 boys and get away with it.


 Charles
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 talk about life.



 What do computer engineers use for birth control? 
 Their personalities.

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Re: [RollTideFan] MJ NOT GUILTY ALL TEN COUNTS

2005-06-13 Thread PIRATESPT
Ha!!!He wasnt accused of buggery!!!lol...No harm no foul...and no I am not a 
faggot..lol.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Michael Jackson found not guilty

2005-06-13 Thread Jeff Todd
Shuda tried his ass in Memphis.

Slef E.

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on all 10 charges.

What a crock of shit. No celebrity can get convicted in 
California.





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Re: [RollTideFan] MJ NOT GUILTY ALL TEN COUNTS

2005-06-13 Thread Joe Goodson
Ok, so where is the Michael Jackson target shooting game link?  I am sure it 
is going to pop up again.  (no pun intended).

Joe
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
Mark Twain
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Ridiculous.  That man is a pervert.  It disgusting that he can bugger 
little

boys and get away with it.


Charles
http://www.the-sandbox.org fun, friendly debate and talk about life.



What do computer engineers use for birth control?  Their personalities.

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AMAZING!


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Re: [RollTideFan] MJ NOT GUILTY ALL TEN COUNTS

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Usually, you are very witty and funny. Not today. When you run a joke into the
ground, it ceases to be humorous. That's a big rule with humor.

Jeff, you have run the Catholic joke into the ground.

Now, if you are not joking then just let me know.



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 Good thing he ain't Catholic.

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Re: [RollTideFan] MJ NOT GUILTY ALL TEN COUNTS

2005-06-13 Thread Jeff Todd
Just pretend like I ain't.

Slef E.

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Now, if you are not joking then just let me know.






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[RollTideFan] Doin' time..

2005-06-13 Thread kurtrasmussen

Former Alabama booster Young gets 6 months in prison
6/13/2005, 7:39 p.m. ET
By WOODY BAIRD
The Associated Press

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — A former Alabama football booster convicted of bribing a 
high school coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide was sentenced 
Monday to six months in prison.

Logan Young, 64, also was sentenced to six months home confinement after his 
release from prison and then two years' supervised release.

U.S. District Court Judge Daniel Breen allowed Young to remain free pending 
appeal.

Prosecutors asked for a sentence of two years to 30 months in prison. Young 
sought probation, house arrest and public service.

Young already has been ordered to pay $96,100 in restitution for structuring 
bank withdrawals to hide a crime.

Young said he was not upset that his chief accuser, former high school coach 
Lynn Lang, avoided jail time after pleading guilty to taking part in a 
racketeering conspiracy.

I don't have a problem with that, Young said as he left the federal 
courthouse. I'm happy with what I got.

Young said he was right to go to trial and believes his lawyers have a good 
chance of overturning his conviction at the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Lang testified against Young, saying he paid $150,000 to get defensive lineman 
Albert Means to sign with Alabama five years ago.

Defense lawyers contend Young committed no crime as defined by the law.

He was convicted under federal law of money laundering and racketeering 
conspiracy. The underlying offense, however, was a violation of state law, 
bribing a public servant.

Defense lawyers argued that Lang's job as a high school coach did not include 
advising athletes on which colleges to attend, so Young could not have bribed 
him to violate his official duties.

Lawyer James Neal said that argument will be at the heart of Young's appeal.

Breen said Young's trial exposed part of the underbelly of college sports and 
he hoped the prison sentence will keep other wealthy college boosters from 
using their money to control the lives of student athletes.

Young's lawyers said he needs a kidney transplant and could not get proper 
medical care in prison.

Before sentencing, Young asked the judge, I beg you to let me ... continue to 
get my transplant, hopefully within the next six months.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Fred Godwin argued that Young could get competent 
medical care in prison.

In deciding on a lighter punishment than the government sought, Breen refused 
to classify Means as a vulnerable victim under sentencing guidelines.

The sentencing hearing began Thursday but was delayed after defense arguments 
focused on an interview in The Commercial Appeal newspaper of Memphis in which 
Lang claimed the Means family got $60,000 of the payoff money.

Defense attorney Robert Hutton argued that Means wasn't hurt by the conspiracy 
to send him to Alabama.

Means said at Young's trial that Lang arranged for another student to take the 
college entrance exam for him.

As a result of this conspiracy, he was able to attend college, Hutton said.

Godwin argued that even if his family got money, Means still was an 
impressionable teenager from a poor family who was victimized by adults.

The NCAA has said it believed Means was unaware his football talents were being 
brokered. Means refuses to talk about Lang's allegations.

Lang testified at Young's trial that other universities, including Georgia, 
Kentucky, Arkansas, Memphis, Mississippi, Michigan State and Tennessee, offered 
him money or jobs to get Means.

No charges were filed against anyone with those schools. Three former coaches, 
Rip Scherer of Memphis, Jim Donnan of Georgia and Ivy Williams, an Alabama 
assistant, testified Lang was lying.

Means' recruitment became part of an NCAA investigation that led to sanctions 
against Alabama in 2002, costing the Crimson Tide scholarships and bowl 
appearances.

Lang, the former head coach at Trezevant High in Memphis, lost his job because 
of the recruiting scandal and now lives in Michigan.

He testified against Young while waiting to be sentenced on a guilty plea to 
crossing state lines as part of a racketeering conspiracy. Prosecutors 
supported Lang's request to avoid prison and he was sentenced to two years 
probation and 500 hours of community service.

Means transferred to Memphis after one season at Alabama and finished his 
college eligibility last season.

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[RollTideFan] Sipsey Wilderness Trails (non-Bama)

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Anyone on the list ever hiked any/all of the trials in the Sipsey Wilderness or
the South Caney Creek area?

I'm looking for a good trail map or even someone who knows the area to hike
with.


Mike




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