RE: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats
The award for "Downer Post of the Day" goes to JoBu! JoBu, iff'n you quit hanging out on that couch that sits on your porch you won't see these things. > A car passed the house carrying a child and her dog. > Hanging outside the door, was part of the dog's leash. Enough of it > to drag on the ground. I sure hope that the other end of the leash > was not hooked to the dog's collar. All I could imagine was the > part of the leash that was hanging outside the door somehow getting > caught on something (at about 50 mph) and yanking the dog towards > the door. No doubt snapping the dog's neck. The thought of what > else could happen to the dog if the leash got caught is sickening. > > Here's hoping the doggie is ok ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats
I didn't think the park owner would let you put up a fence, especially since you're just renting the lot. People should keep their pets in their own yards though. I did see something yesterday that disturbs me. No, it wasn't Jeff nekkid. A car passed the house carrying a child and her dog. Hanging outside the door, was part of the dog's leash. Enough of it to drag on the ground. I sure hope that the other end of the leash was not hooked to the dog's collar. All I could imagine was the part of the leash that was hanging outside the door somehow getting caught on something (at about 50 mph) and yanking the dog towards the door. No doubt snapping the dog's neck. The thought of what else could happen to the dog if the leash got caught is sickening. Here's hoping the doggie is ok. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Smoot Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:59 PM To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats Here's the way I see it. If I spend the money to put up a fence to keep my animals in & others out, and they choose to enter anyway, they're fair game. Shooting them isn't necessary though. Anti-freeze works just as well. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats > MADISON, Wis. - Hunter Mark Smith welcomes wild birds on to his property, > but if he sees a cat, he thinks the "invasive'' animal should be > considered fair game. > The 48-year-old firefighter from La Crosse has proposed that hunters in > Wisconsin make free-roaming domestic cats an "unprotected species'' that > could be shot at will by anyone with a small-game license. > > His proposal will be placed before hunters on April 11 at the Wisconsin > Conservation Congress spring hearings in each of the state's 72 counties. > > "I get up in the morning and if there's new snow, there's cat tracks under > my bird feeder ... I look at them as an invasive species, plain and > simple,'' Smith said. > > Smith's proposal has horrified cat lovers, but is seen by others as a way > to stop cats from killing wild birds. > > University of Wisconsin-Madison wildlife ecology professor Stanley Temple, > who trapped more than 100 cats and analyzed their stomach contents during > a four-year study, has estimated that between 7.8 million and 219 million > birds are killed by rural cats in Wisconsin each year. > > "It's obviously a very controversial proposal,'' Temple said, but added, > "I think there really is a basis for having a debate about it.'' > > The Conservation Congress is a five-member elected body whose duty is to > advise the Department of Natural Resources and the Legislature on natural > resources issues. > > DNR attorney Tim Andryk said the vote would simply be "an advisory > recommendation'' to state lawmakers. > > "We (the DNR) don't have authority to regulate domestic animals. > Legislation would have to be passed to accomplish this,'' Andryk said. > "You might also have to amend laws relating to abuse of domestic > animals.'' > > But Temple said he thinks legislation is not needed. He said the > department does have the authority to declare rural cats an unprotected > species - because unclaimed cats can be considered non-native wildlife > species like house mice, Norway rats, pigeons and starlings. > > "If they are not a pet, if somebody doesn't claim ownership, they become a > non-native wildlife species and not entitled to protection by the state,'' > he said. > > Cat enthusiasts Cheryl Balazs, Ted O'Donnell and Adam Bauknecht are trying > to organize opposition to Smith's proposal. O'Donnell, a co-owner of > MadCat Pet Supplies, recently set up a Web site, dontshootthecat.com, to > inform people about it. > > O'Donnell said Smith's proposal "is a callous response'' to the problem of > cats preying on wild birds. > > "There's more humane solutions,'' he said. "We as citizens should step up > and solve the problem humanely.'' > > Sheri Carr, senior humane officer at the Dane County Humane Society, said > the group has not yet taken a position on the proposal, but wants cat > owners to abide by their local ordinances and not let their animals roam. > > "I w
Re: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats
Here's the way I see it. If I spend the money to put up a fence to keep my animals in & others out, and they choose to enter anyway, they're fair game. Shooting them isn't necessary though. Anti-freeze works just as well. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats MADISON, Wis. - Hunter Mark Smith welcomes wild birds on to his property, but if he sees a cat, he thinks the "invasive'' animal should be considered fair game. The 48-year-old firefighter from La Crosse has proposed that hunters in Wisconsin make free-roaming domestic cats an "unprotected species'' that could be shot at will by anyone with a small-game license. His proposal will be placed before hunters on April 11 at the Wisconsin Conservation Congress spring hearings in each of the state's 72 counties. "I get up in the morning and if there's new snow, there's cat tracks under my bird feeder ... I look at them as an invasive species, plain and simple,'' Smith said. Smith's proposal has horrified cat lovers, but is seen by others as a way to stop cats from killing wild birds. University of Wisconsin-Madison wildlife ecology professor Stanley Temple, who trapped more than 100 cats and analyzed their stomach contents during a four-year study, has estimated that between 7.8 million and 219 million birds are killed by rural cats in Wisconsin each year. "It's obviously a very controversial proposal,'' Temple said, but added, "I think there really is a basis for having a debate about it.'' The Conservation Congress is a five-member elected body whose duty is to advise the Department of Natural Resources and the Legislature on natural resources issues. DNR attorney Tim Andryk said the vote would simply be "an advisory recommendation'' to state lawmakers. "We (the DNR) don't have authority to regulate domestic animals. Legislation would have to be passed to accomplish this,'' Andryk said. "You might also have to amend laws relating to abuse of domestic animals.'' But Temple said he thinks legislation is not needed. He said the department does have the authority to declare rural cats an unprotected species - because unclaimed cats can be considered non-native wildlife species like house mice, Norway rats, pigeons and starlings. "If they are not a pet, if somebody doesn't claim ownership, they become a non-native wildlife species and not entitled to protection by the state,'' he said. Cat enthusiasts Cheryl Balazs, Ted O'Donnell and Adam Bauknecht are trying to organize opposition to Smith's proposal. O'Donnell, a co-owner of MadCat Pet Supplies, recently set up a Web site, dontshootthecat.com, to inform people about it. O'Donnell said Smith's proposal "is a callous response'' to the problem of cats preying on wild birds. "There's more humane solutions,'' he said. "We as citizens should step up and solve the problem humanely.'' Sheri Carr, senior humane officer at the Dane County Humane Society, said the group has not yet taken a position on the proposal, but wants cat owners to abide by their local ordinances and not let their animals roam. "I would hate to think that tame, owned cats who happen to slip out would be at risk of being deemed a wild, unprotected species,'' Carr said. "It's a delicate (ecological) balance out there, but does that mean people should be able to shoot their neighbor's cat? Probably not.'' --- Information from: Wisconsin State Journal, http://www.wisconsinstatejournal.com ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats
ME? - Original Message - From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:47 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats > Ewe jist tryin' to piss me off ant cha? ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats
Ewe jist tryin' to piss me off ant cha? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:09 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:[RollTideFan] Wisconsin hunter wants open season on domestic cats MADISON, Wis. - Hunter Mark Smith welcomes wild birds on to his property, but if he sees a cat, he thinks the "invasive'' animal should be considered fair game. The 48-year-old firefighter from La Crosse has proposed that hunters in Wisconsin make free-roaming domestic cats an "unprotected species'' that could be shot at will by anyone with a small-game license. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
