[RollTideFan] Good article on the BCS
If you enjoyed The Matrix, then the BCS should be right up your alley. Though not nearly as entertaining, it continues the theme that machines can hold power over humans, even when the people are fighting to regain control. About this time last year, the college football world was up in arms because the University of Southern California, ranked No. 1 in both polls, had been left out of the BCS Championship Game. The Trojans' fatal flaw was that their schedule strength didn't pass muster within the system's formula for determining the nation's best two teams. The computer element of that formula ranked USC third, and the separate strength of schedule component sealed the Trojans' fate. BCS Standings 1. USC 2. Oklahoma 3. Auburn 4. California 5. Texas 6. Utah 7. Georgia 8. Boise State 9. Louisville 10. Miami Following SC's dominance of Michigan in the Rose Bowl, the BCS administrators decided that such an injustice shouldn't take place again. By mid-summer, they had developed a plan to overhaul their championship formula, putting the majority of power back into the hands of the human voters. On the teleconference that announced this change, ESPN.com's Ivan Maisel joked, Does this mean we don't have to use the word 'component' in a college football story again? Not so fast, my friend! It seems the computer component is anything but irrelevant in this new formula, and when the final BCS Standings are made official Sunday afternoon, it's possible that the popular opinion of the people could be overruled by computer sentiment in determining which teams gain the most important unsettled spots. It's a foregone conclusion that No. 1 USC will not be left out of this season's BCS Championship Game, provided it wins its season finale against UCLA, but there is still a slight bit of drama over who will finish No. 2. Oklahoma currently holds a solid lead over Auburn for the other spot in the title game, predominantly because of the Sooners' lofty position within the computer ratings. Auburn barely trails OU in both human polls, but the computer deficit will be extremely difficult to overcome. Assuming both teams win their respective conference titles, the Sooners should have a perfect score (at least five No. 1 rankings) from the computers on Sunday. And because of inferior schedule strength numbers (despite four victories over teams with nine wins), it seems Auburn's best case is to finish at 93 percent, but more than likely, the Tigers will have a final computer score of .920 (at least five No. 3 rankings). It doesn't seem like a lot, but trailing by .08 in the computers is huge. How huge? Well, to overcome that margin, Auburn would need to gain the equivalent of 44 points in each poll. Each spot a team is raised on the ballot of one voter is worth one point, so that means 44 voters in each poll would need to move the Tigers one spot higher than they are currently being ranked (or maybe 36 voters move them up one spot, and four voters move them up two spots, or something to that effect). When you consider that seven of the 61 voters in the coaches' poll already have Auburn ranked No. 1, that means only 54 even have the ability to place them higher. (Six of 65 AP voters have the Tigers ranked on top.) Also considering how many have Auburn ranked No. 2 behind USC -- and how many of those probably won't drop the Trojans without a loss -- Auburn's position begins to look much more helpless. This week, nine of 31 AP voters surveyed by the Mobile (Ala.) Register said they would not consider changing their order of the top three teams unless one loses on Saturday. If you take that to assume roughly 30 percent of all voters in both polls will not be swayed by any victory margins this weekend, then Auburn's odds of reaching the No. 2 spot in the BCS Standings are about the same as the team bus being struck by lightning on the way to the Georgia Dome ... and the forecast says there's only a 10 percent chance of rain. For the Tigers to gain sole possession of the No. 2 position in the AP poll, however, only six voters would need to flop their order of Oklahoma and Auburn. In the coaches' poll, only four voters would need to switch the teams in Auburn's favor to get them into the second spot. That means an impressive win by the Tigers over Tennessee in the SEC Championship could be enough to get them to No. 2 in both polls. And even though that likely wouldn't change their BCS ranking, it sure would add to the controversy on Sunday afternoon. What if ... And for those who are wondering about Armageddon scenarios on Saturday, here's my best guess as to what would happen if the roof caves in on the top of the BCS Standings. If USC is the only team that survives the weekend undefeated, assuming Cal also wins, I see the Trojans and Bears having a rematch for the national title. If SC loses, along with either Oklahoma or Auburn, I think Texas would gain points in both the computers and polls and would
[RollTideFan] Hello?
You guys must actually be working today. I take a day off to be lazy and nobody is posting. Screw the barn and 10rc. Rolltide! Joe One single object... [will merit] the endless gratitude of the society: that of restraining the judges from usurping legislation. - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Livingston, March 25, 1825 ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Hello?
I guess we are just waiting for someone else to post something we can all talk about. -Original Message- Joe wrote: You guys must actually be working today. I take a day off to be lazy and nobody is posting. Screw the barn and 10rc. Rolltide! Joe One single object... [will merit] the endless gratitude of the society: that of restraining the judges from usurping legislation. - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Livingston, March 25, 1825 ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Santa Claus
bowing You can count that one. Got me good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:42 PM To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Santa Claus Same old Devo. - Original Message - From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Santa Claus DANG!!! Wish I had that too! ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] First sighting...
Could you finish your meal? :-0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RollTideFan] First sighting... I knew it would happen. Just been waiting for the day. Waiting to see what I would see first. UA, AU, or UT... I think there's like 4,000 people working at the plant I'm in. What was I gonna find? I knew it *would* happen, just not quite sure when or how.. And it finally did. Today. 17 days to be exact. I was in the cafeteria. Sitting by myownslef, eating 3 tacos, and drinking a Dr. Pepper Coke. Some sumbitch walks in wearing a GOT DAMN Vols T-Shirt. Just damn! kurtI hate Tennessee and so should you! ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] LC
Cool. Now if they could just get the website back up and running all would be right in the world... :~(|) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:14 PM To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] LC (was: Miss Me?) Not much man, and both puters are again alive and well. RTR LC --- Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wassup LC...how's da com-poo-tas? ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] LC
WRONG! Bama gotta start beating the aubs and viles EVERY year and winning SECC's and MNC's, then everything will be right in the world. Screw the website, Bama needs to go on about a 50 game win streak starting on 12/31/04. ;) Rick From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/12/03 Fri AM 10:53:00 CST To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] LC Cool. Now if they could just get the website back up and running all would be right in the world... :~(|) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:14 PM To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] LC (was: Miss Me?) Not much man, and both puters are again alive and well. RTR LC --- Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wassup LC...how's da com-poo-tas? ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] LC
I agree with both of you!!! I miss the website!!! - Original Message - From: Rick Mc [EMAIL PROTECTED] WRONG! Bama gotta start beating the aubs and viles EVERY year and winning SECC's and MNC's, then everything will be right in the world. Screw the website, Bama needs to go on about a 50 game win streak starting on 12/31/04. ;) Rick From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool. Now if they could just get the website back up and running all would be right in the world... :~(|) ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] LC
I was active on the website when it first got going, but lost interest after a while. I visit the BamaMag site some, but seldom post. Just not to crazy when it come to posting on message boards for some reason. Rick From: Devonna Snuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/12/03 Fri AM 11:22:17 CST To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] LC I agree with both of you!!! I miss the website!!! - Original Message - From: Rick Mc [EMAIL PROTECTED] WRONG! Bama gotta start beating the aubs and viles EVERY year and winning SECC's and MNC's, then everything will be right in the world. Screw the website, Bama needs to go on about a 50 game win streak starting on 12/31/04. ;) Rick From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool. Now if they could just get the website back up and running all would be right in the world... :~(|) ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] CUM to UF?
Friday, December 3, 2004 ESPN.com news services The University of Florida has offered its coaching job to Urban Meyer, who accepted today, ESPN.com's Pat Forde has learned. Florida papers reported the offer to Meyer, who has coached Utah to a 12-0 season and a BCS bowl bid, on their Web sites Friday morning. It could be any minute, UF president Dr. Bernie Machen told The Palm Beach Post earlier today. I'm waiting for an e-mail. When asked about the report, Utah athletic director Chris Hill, deferred. My position is to let the other parties in these things -- the schools and the coach -- speak for themselves, Hill said. Any kind of confirmation would have to come from other sources. When pressed, Hill offered no further comment. Meyer met with his players Thursday and told them what schools are pursuing him, but he would not be specific when asked about the meeting. There's too many things involved right now to have any comments, Meyer said after a practice at Utah's new indoor practice field. Florida officials were in Utah on Thursday, as were Notre Dame officials. Meyer will replace Ron Zook, who was fired but coached the team through the end of the season. The Utah coach has said he wants to coach the Utes in their bowl game. Zook has not yet decided whether he will coach the Gators in the Peach Bowl. Utah is expected to consider offensive coordinator Mike Sanford and defensive coordinator Kyle Whittingham to replace Meyer. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1937879 -- Roll Tide!! Rick ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] CUM to UF?
As of 11 pm last night it was Bob Stoops that was coming to Floridaapparently UF recountered OU's offer with one of thier ownJVW If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. -- Sir Winston Churchill - Original Message - From: Rick Mc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] CUM to UF? Friday, December 3, 2004 ESPN.com news services The University of Florida has offered its coaching job to Urban Meyer, who accepted today, ESPN.com's Pat Forde has learned. Florida papers reported the offer to Meyer, who has coached Utah to a 12-0 season and a BCS bowl bid, on their Web sites Friday morning. It could be any minute, UF president Dr. Bernie Machen told The Palm Beach Post earlier today. I'm waiting for an e-mail. When asked about the report, Utah athletic director Chris Hill, deferred. My position is to let the other parties in these things -- the schools and the coach -- speak for themselves, Hill said. Any kind of confirmation would have to come from other sources. When pressed, Hill offered no further comment. Meyer met with his players Thursday and told them what schools are pursuing him, but he would not be specific when asked about the meeting. There's too many things involved right now to have any comments, Meyer said after a practice at Utah's new indoor practice field. Florida officials were in Utah on Thursday, as were Notre Dame officials. Meyer will replace Ron Zook, who was fired but coached the team through the end of the season. The Utah coach has said he wants to coach the Utes in their bowl game. Zook has not yet decided whether he will coach the Gators in the Peach Bowl. Utah is expected to consider offensive coordinator Mike Sanford and defensive coordinator Kyle Whittingham to replace Meyer. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1937879 -- Roll Tide!! Rick ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Slef type entertainment (non)
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Re: [RollTideFan] OOOOPPPS! Sorry Slef, this is the correct one.
Sorry Slef, I have no idea where that link came from I thought I had copied over this one http://tinyurl.com/5r58y -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 3, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RollTideFan] Slef type entertainment (non) http://tinyurl.com/6t8nc ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net