Re: [rules-users] Encrypt password in repository.xml

2011-04-20 Thread David Faulkner
Boban,

Instead of using an explicit JDBC connection string, you can instead find
your MySQL connection via a JNDI lookup, externalizing your database
connection information to your application server. You'll have to Google
the exact details, but I believe you set the driver class to
javax.naming.InitialContext and then the driver url to the JNDI name of
your datasource. 

Kind regards,

David

On 4/20/11 6:39 AM, Boban Abraham boban_abra...@mindtree.com wrote:

We use mysql to store the data, hence mysql db credentials are mentioned
in
repository.xml

The DB user password in repository.xml is not encrypted currently.

What are the options available to place encrypted password in
repository.xml?

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Re: [rules-users] compilation error - Import statements are colliding

2011-04-20 Thread David Faulkner
I believe that you can only import one class with the same name,
regardless of package. To access the other class within your code, you
will need to refer to it every time with the fully qualified class name.
This conforms to the behavior of Java source files.

On 4/20/11 11:38 AM, Boban Abraham boban_abra...@mindtree.com wrote:

Hi,

We have scenario in which the imported java classes have same name but
different package.

The drools guvnor is throwing compilation error stating that import
statements are colliding, even though the java class packages are
different.

Please let me know if there are any solutions for this issue.

Thanks,
Boban



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Re: [rules-users] Drools-Guvnor ­ question about build and deploy packages

2011-04-19 Thread David Faulkner
Patricia,

My understanding (which is certainly open to being corrected) is that in 
general there is no way to do an incremental compilation of rules. The entire 
package is analyzed together and significant optimizations are performed to 
combine common items between rules (which is one of the big reasons why the 
engine executes so well!). So, generally, what you are doing is the best 
practice.

When you say that you are experiencing a performance hit, are you talking about 
a delay in seeing the updates appear in your production application, or 
something else? Generally, the compilation is a one-time step, and even during 
compilation your enterprise application that is actually using the rules should 
continue to perform quite reasonably, since the compilation is going on in a 
separate application.

David

From: Patricia Bogoevici 
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Subject: [rules-users] Drools-Guvnor – question about build and deploy packages



I am using Drools-Guvnor 5.1 release in an enterprise application. The rules 
created are separated per packages, and for each package there is a snapshot 
package called LATEST. The KnowledgeAgent polls the snapshot packages to get 
the latest data and load into the rule engine. Whenever there is a new rule, or 
updates to an existing one, the application triggers the process of re-creating 
the package snapshot: builds all the rules within the package, and creates a 
new snapshot for the package.


The main problem with this approach is that the time to build the package 
rules, increases quite a lot as the number if rules gets higher. This creates a 
serious performance hit in the real-time app whenever there is a change to the 
rules.


I sneaked a bit to the source code, and noticed that when build package is 
called, Guvnor builds a new binary for all the rules within a package even 
though not all of them are modified. Would it be possible to incrementally 
create/update the package binary? This would speed up things a lot when the 
package has lots of rules but only one rule changes at the time.


What is the best approach for creating the package snapshots? The approach 
we've taken is to build all the rules within a package into one snapshot, and 
we ran into this performance issue.


Any ideas/suggestions is much appreciated.


Thanks,

Patricia

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor - Websphere 7

2011-04-05 Thread David Faulkner
I agree with Tihomir. Make sure that the web application is deployed with a 
PARENT_LAST classloader configuration.

Also, you probably need to update the components.xml file to specify the 
location of the repository to a separate FS location that you know the 
application server user has access to. May or may not be necessary, but 
generally a good practice. 

Guvnor DOES run on WebSphere 7. 

David Faulkner
david.faulk...@amentra.com

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On Behalf Of Tihomir Surdilovic [tsurd...@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:22 AM
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor - Websphere 7

Seems you have an older jcr jar on your classpath that gets loaded
before Guvnor's jcr-2.0.jar in WEB-INF/lib.

On 4/5/11 11:07 AM, smileychappy wrote:
 I'm trying to install and run Guvnor on Websphere 7.

 When I try starting the app, I get the following exception

 [4/5/11 11:02:26:793 EDT] 0085 webappE
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp notifyServletContextCreated SRVE0283E:
 Exception caught while initializing context: {0}
   org.jboss.seam.InstantiationException:
 Could not instantiate Seam component: repositoryConfiguration
   at org.jboss.seam.Component.newInstance(Component.java:2066)
   at org.jboss.seam.contexts.Contexts.startup(Contexts.java:304)
   at org.jboss.seam.contexts.Contexts.startup(Contexts.java:278)
   at
 org.jboss.seam.contexts.ServletLifecycle.endInitialization(ServletLifecycle.java:112)
   at org.jboss.seam.init.Initialization.init(Initialization.java:727)
   at
 org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamListener.contextInitialized(SeamListener.java:34)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.notifyServletContextCreated(WebApp.java:1681)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.commonInitializationFinish(WebApp.java:374)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebAppImpl.initialize(WebAppImpl.java:299)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebGroupImpl.addWebApplication(WebGroupImpl.java:100)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.VirtualHostImpl.addWebApplication(VirtualHostImpl.java:166)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WSWebContainer.addWebApp(WSWebContainer.java:731)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.WSWebContainer.addWebApplication(WSWebContainer.java:616)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.component.WebContainerImpl.install(WebContainerImpl.java:376)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.component.WebContainerImpl.start(WebContainerImpl.java:668)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.start(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:1122)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.DeployedApplicationImpl.fireDeployedObjectStart(DeployedApplicationImpl.java:1315)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.DeployedModuleImpl.start(DeployedModuleImpl.java:623)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.DeployedApplicationImpl.start(DeployedApplicationImpl.java:940)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.startApplication(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:725)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl$1.run(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:1266)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.security.auth.ContextManagerImpl.runAs(ContextManagerImpl.java:4599)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.security.auth.ContextManagerImpl.runAsSystem(ContextManagerImpl.java:4687)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.security.core.SecurityContext.runAsSystem(SecurityContext.java:255)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.startApplicationDynamically(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:1271)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.start(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:2043)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.CompositionUnitMgrImpl.start(CompositionUnitMgrImpl.java:439)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.CompositionUnitImpl.start(CompositionUnitImpl.java:123)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.CompositionUnitMgrImpl.start(CompositionUnitMgrImpl.java:382)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.CompositionUnitMgrImpl.startCompositionUnit(CompositionUnitMgrImpl.java:653)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.CompositionUnitMgrImpl.startCompositionUnit(CompositionUnitMgrImpl.java:615)
   at
 com.ibm.ws.runtime.component.ApplicationMgrImpl.startApplication(ApplicationMgrImpl.java:1177)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:48)
   at
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:37)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:600)
   at sun.reflect.misc.Trampoline.invoke(MethodUtil.java:37)
   at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor21.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:37)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:600

Re: [rules-users] Using Drools to model and solve a production scheduling problem with changeovers

2011-03-29 Thread David Faulkner
Andrei,

You should take a look at Drools Planner, which is designed to provide a 
framework for solving NP-hard problems using local search. I don't know how 
user-friendly you would consider it to be and there's no GUI, but it sounds 
like it may be a good fit for you.

David Faulkner
david.faulk...@amentra.commailto:david.faulk...@amentra.com

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On Behalf Of Andrei Neboian [andrei.nebo...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:03 PM
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Subject: [rules-users] Using Drools to model and solve a production scheduling 
problem with changeovers

Dear All,

I am looking for a user-friendly platform which would allow me to model and 
solve a
production scheduling problem with changeover times. Since it's an NP-Hard
problem, I am getting convinced that a CP formulation would be most
appropriate. Later on, a GUI should be designed to allow a user to interact
with the model.

Is drools a proper platform for this? Are there any examples of this type of 
problem solved with Drools?

I need to tackle a problem with 4 parallel machines, over 100 jobs and 100 
changeovertypes (sequence dependant setup times between each job).

I would appreciate any help on this! Thanks

Kind Regards,
Andrei
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Re: [rules-users] Misunderstanding salience?

2011-03-08 Thread David Faulkner
Peter,

The EXACT way to accomplish the functionality that you are looking for is 
activation-group; if two rules are in the same activation group, only one of 
them will fire. Note that the rule with HIGHER salience will fire first; to 
accomplish what you are looking for you'd have to give the exception rule a 
higher salience.

I would also note that although there are specific instances where 
activation-group has a strong need, many in the community find that the most 
power and flexibility from the rule engine comes from letting go of trying to 
exactly order your rule execution, and instead letting the rule engine decide 
what would happen here. One way to accomplish this in your case would be to 
simply add (isZombie == false) to your constraint on the general rule.  Another 
way that involves salience but NOT agenda groups is to set a high salience on 
your exception rule, but only add advice if advice is null. The possibilities 
are endless.

With kind regards,
David Faulkner
david.faulk...@amentra.com

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[mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Peter Ashford
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:24 AM
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Misunderstanding salience?

Actually, I think I've figured this one out : in the Zombie case, it's firing 
both rules and it's just that with the negative salience,  the zombie exception 
rule is the last rule fired, therefore, the last thing written into advice.

So... what would be the correct way to do what I'm trying to do here?  The idea 
is that the Zombie exception rule should fire in preference to the general rule 
and that none of the general processing should occur at all (imaging that these 
rules had side-effects for the rest of the system they're attached to, we don't 
want all the general rule side effects to apply and then all the exception case 
side effects)

Thanks in advance!

Peter.

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Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2011 1:31 p.m.
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Subject: [rules-users] Misunderstanding salience?

Hi There

I'm new to drools.  I've just set up the Drools-Server and it is (finally!) 
working and serving my test rule-set.  The one thing that's not working as I 
expect it is the rule ordering via salience.  This is my simple test rule set:

rule General brain eating advice
   when
  p : Patient(eatsBrains == true)
   then
  p.setAdvice(Stop eating brains, or at least, try to cut down);
end

rule Zombie exception to brain eating advice
   salience -50
   when
  p : Patient(eatsBrains == true, isZombie == true)
   then
  p.setAdvice(Evidence suggests that the undead cannot contract 
Kuru or that the effects are irellevant given the  +
  patient's current zombified state.\nSuggest 
euthenasing patient lest he/she eat your (or someone  +
  else's) brains);
end


The idea is that the first rule fires all the time unless the patient happens 
to be a zombie, in which case the exception rule (the second rule) kicks in.  
Now, as I have it here, with the exception at salience at -50 it actually 
works, which is the opposite of what I was expecting.  I'd thought that I would 
have had to have the exception at a higher salience to fire first.  That was 
what I tried first but that didn't work - everyone got the general advice, 
zombies included.

What am I misunderstanding here?

Thanks!

Peter.

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Re: [rules-users] Two instances of drools-guvnor can point to same database?

2011-03-07 Thread David Faulkner
Sartaj,

You can have two nodes of Guvnor in a clustered configuration. Note that there 
are significant changes to your repository configuration that need to be made 
to fully support a clustered deployment.

Please refer to

http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/Clustering

for more information. Good luck!

David Faulkner
david.faulk...@amentra.com

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Subject: [rules-users] Two instances of drools-guvnor can point to same 
database?


Hi,

Can we deploy guvnor in two instances of jboss server pointing to same oracle 
database?

Do we need to modify any settings to use same database by all the instances?

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Re: [rules-users] Migrating from one environment to another

2011-02-17 Thread David Faulkner
Chris,

Using WebDAV is probably the best way of doing this. When you copy a rule into 
the appropriate location from one WebDAV directory to another, Guvnor will pick 
up that rule and install it in the specified location in the repository.

One thing that's very important to note is that only a subset of the 
information available in Guvnor is available through WebDAV (or the REST API)! 
At this point, my understanding is that it's practically impossible to get some 
of the rule metadata out of Guvnor; the work on the AtomPub interface may 
address a lot of these concerns. But if your plan is to do something like 
migrate documentation or test cases and not just rules, make sure you test the 
feasibility first!

My understanding from reading previous posts and discussions related to this is 
that the details of this type of Guvnor-Guvnor migration are hard. Do you 
import the whole history? What if the users from one instance aren't in the 
other? What do you do if categories and statuses aren't available? I agree that 
despite these issues that this is still an obviously useful feature.

David Faulkner
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:26 PM
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Migrating from one environment to another

Hi Chris,

You may be able to accomplish migrating a single package via the WebDAV 
interface and a script in your favorite language.

Here are some relevant results from a quick google search:
http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.1.1.34858.FINAL/drools-guvnor/html/ch01.html#d0e1301
http://blog.athico.com/2008/05/accessing-guvnor-as-filesystem-webdav.html
http://thoughts.inphina.com/2011/02/14/adding-rules-to-drools-guvnor-programmatically-with-webdav/

Hope this is helpful,
Steve

rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org wrote on 02/16/2011 05:12:45 PM:

 From:

 Chris Selwyn ch...@selwyn-family.me.uk

 To:

 rules-users@lists.jboss.org

 Date:

 02/16/2011 05:14 PM

 Subject:

 Re: [rules-users] Migrating from one environment to another

 Sent by:

 rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org

 Thanks for the confirmation Michael.

 I must say that I am surprised. It seems such an obviously useful thing.
 Is there a reason why it does not exit? Is there a problem in
 building such a thing?

 Chris

 On 16/02/2011 22:33, Michael Anstis wrote:
 @Chris,

 I don't believe there is such a mechanism.

 @Sathya,

 Hijacking a previous post is unlikely to get you a reply.

 Thanks,

 Mike

 On 16 February 2011 22:04, Chris Selwyn ch...@selwyn-family.me.uk wrote:
 I am aware of the Guvnor export/import mechanism to move an entire
 repository and the method of importing a DRL to create a package.

 But what I have been looking for is a mechanism to move the entire
 contents of a Guvnor package (DSL, model, DSLR file, DRL files etc) from
 one Guvnor instance to another, so far without luck.

 Is there such a mechanism?

 Chris Selwyn
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