Re: [rules-users] Best Webserver to put in front of Drools Planner?
Michael, We have extensive experience in planner and offer paid support. Send me a note with you requirements. We are supporting many major Australian corporations already. Regards, Steve Managing Director Illation Pty Ltd On 21/01/2013, at 20:13, Michiel Vermandel mverm...@yahoo.commailto:mverm...@yahoo.com wrote: @Geoffrey: is there a possibility to get payed support on Drools Planner? Thanks, Michiel Vermandel - http://www.codessentials.com - Your essential software, for free! Follow us at http://twitter.com/#!/Codessentials From: Geoffrey De Smet ge0ffrey.s...@gmail.commailto:ge0ffrey.s...@gmail.com To: Michiel Vermandel mverm...@yahoo.commailto:mverm...@yahoo.com; Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Best Webserver to put in front of Drools Planner? Op 21-01-13 07:47, Michiel Vermandel schreef: Hi, I need to make the planning engine to be accessible through a SOAP webservice. A SOAP message with planning entity/variable data needs to be sent, which starts a planning threat. What is the best approach here? Camel + JBoss AS 7 :) Like drools-camel, one day we 'll build drools-planner-camel (direct integration to expose drools-planner as a SOAP/REST webservice through camel) that will work on any servlet container, but not any day soon. Just take a Tomcat server and a custom SOAP Webapp? Thanks, Michiel - http://www.codessentials.com - Your essential software, for free! Follow us at http://twitter.com/#!/Codessentials ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Location of ScoreCard Spreadsheet File?
Thanks for the background. Agreed with your approach, however I think that
being able to go from PMML-{Guvnor,spreadsheet} should also be a target
feature. Although direct PMML-DRL is useful for deployment, it's rare that
customers will deploy a model without at least having a human take a look. As
well they can run tests within Guvnor or a spreadsheet to see if their
assumptions about the model are accurate by testing with historical data
(coming more from the operational side of things).
In the present situation, spreadsheets are already in use, so we can gently
nudge them toward a direct deployment of PMML by using spreadsheets to raise
the comfort level. So, while taking the long way 'round, what we need to do
here is something like SAS Model - Spreadsheet - PMML - DRL. I need to
specify a spreadsheet format that we can then get SAS to output. Once everyone
realises and is comfortable with this, we can point out that SAS can deliver
the model in PMML for a direct import.
I briefly saw a message from Michael pointing out the location of a spreadsheet
that I'll investigate this morning. What would be very useful at this stage is
a document describing how the XLS - PMML spreadsheet is specified, i.e. what
specific, repeatable format can I produce to start the processing pipeline to
deploy scorecards in the engine.
Regards,
- Steve
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[mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Davide Sottara
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 4:52
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Subject: Re: [rules-users] Location of ScoreCard Spreadsheet File?
Let me tell you the story of scorecards, to help you understand what is going
on.
Scorecards are one of the possible predictive models covered by the PMML
standard - which also supports other models such as neural networks and
decision trees. However, PMML is an XML interchange format rather than a
user-friendly authoring format.
So, we decided to adopt a number of stages for representation and
evaluation:
- XLS (or a guvnor-based UI) for authoring
- PMML for internal representation (or to import scorecards generated with
other tools)
- DRL for execution
So, XLS is converted in PMML; the UI, instead, generates PMML directly. PMML is
always converted in DRL.
This, at least, in the ideal world :)
Scorecards were ready for release way before PMML will be - being much broader,
PMML requires much more effort. However, being strategical, scorecards could
not wait to be released together with the rest of PMML. So, scorecards were
split and released with the main
product: drools-scorecards
is part of drools. drools-pmml, instead, is still being incubated in
drools-chance, which is NOT part of the official release. What you have found
in drools-chance is an example, once originated in an XLS but further modified
manually for testing purpose, so there is no source
XLS anymore.
Again, notice that the pmml support in drools-chance is more powerful (and lets
you import PMML directly among other things), but is not currently integrated
with the BRMS and the spreasheet sources. The two will be merged together again
in 6.0, when pmml will become part of the official release too.
Sorry for the confusion generated by this situation, but feel free to ask for
more clarifications or help
Best regards
Davide
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[rules-users] Location of ScoreCard Spreadsheet File?
Does anyone know where the spreadsheet that generated the PMML file for scorecards is located? The XML file here: https://github.com/sotty/drools-chance/blob/master/drools-pmml/src/test/resources/org/drools/pmml/pmml_4_1/test_scorecard.xmlhttps://github.com/sotty/drools-chance/tree/master/drools-pmml/src/test/resources/org/drools/pmml/pmml_4_1 Indicates it was generated from a spreadsheet, but no spreadsheet can be found. To use this we'll need to know that format that the spreadsheet needs to be in. I'm happy to have a crack at documenting this (as time allows), if I can find an example. Am I looking in the right place? The last update was 22 days ago… Cheers, - SteveN ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Anyone Using Scorecards in a Spreadsheet?
Hello Droolers, Is anyone out there using scorecard spreadsheets? I'm trying to, ideally, import a PMML scorecard model, but in lieu of that can export a spreadsheet from the modeling tool and massage that. Trouble is I can't find anything in the 5.5 docos that describe the format that the spreadsheet is supposed to be in. Does anyone have any pointers to the scorecard spreadsheet format? Regards, - SteveN ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] RE: Deploying the BRMS on Web-Sphere 6.1
Just an update on this for whoever is interested: I've been in discussions with Vikrant, and both of us have been able to get the M1 snapshot of Guvnor working with WebSphere 6.1. The latest snapshots however fail as described in the Guvnor bug I mentioned in an earlier email. If anyone has any success, or is working on this, please join in and let us know your results. - SteveN On 23/09/08 3:49 PM, Vikrant Yagnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is not that serious a problem as I initially thought. As I mentioned the URL(adding the index.jsp) works, so there is an easy work-around available. The main bug seems to be that if a URL is sent to WebSphere which does not have a physical file in it the filter which should kick in and re-direct does not do so. (http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=180uid=swg1PK27620) This has nothing to do with the BRMS of course and is a problem for all Web-Apps in this version of Websphere(We are using 6.1.0.0). Adding the index.jsp to the URL seems to work fine for now. I am working on the BRMS to see if there are any other side-effects of this. Maybe, we should update a Wiki or troubleshooting doc on this so that it is known to the community. Digging around IBM Support after my post, I have found quite a few bugs mentioned in version 6.1 regarding how Servlet Filters work and of some on JSF(Especially JBOSS Seam) problems with the particular version. (http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1PK47367) IBM has however provided patches for all of them and I am going to give another shot at seeing the behavior after upgrading to a higher release. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Neale Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:25 AM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] RE: Deploying the BRMS on Web-Sphere 6.1 Hi Vikrant. well the drools-guvnor/ doesn't use a filter so much as it is default web.xml behaviour - you can specify a welcome page, which it goes to when the root path is supplied. If Websphere 6.1 can't even do that - I would say something is seriously wrong (may be a bad install?) - you could try it with a really simple war that just has 1 jsp and a web.xml and see if it happens with it? although I think: As for servlet filters - as we use Seam, it uses servlet filters to manage lifecycles, so yes, that could be it (if its not the above). It isn't possible to replace the filters, as they do a very different job from servlets (although the difference is subtle). What would be better would be to work out what the problem is with websphere and filters I think. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Vikrant Yagnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it clearly is a problem with filters as the following works in WebSphere: http://localhost:9080/drools-guvnor/index.jsp However just typing http://localhost:9080/drools-guvnor does not and gives you the Ugly 500. Cheers, Vikrant From: Vikrant Yagnick Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:38 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Deploying the BRMS on Web-Sphere 6.1 Hi All, Has anyone been able to deploy the BRMS War file on Websphere 6.1. The BRMS deploys without problems , but I get the following error when I try to access the BRMS: Error 500: com.ibm.ws.wswebcontainer.extension.DefaultExtensionProcessor incompatible with com.ibm.wsspi.webcontainer.servlet.IServletWrapper. However, the WebDAV servlet still works. I dug around a little, and have found that this problem has occurred for other web-applications as well who have provided a workaround: http://wiki.merbivore.com/pages/deploying-a-merb-application-to-a-jee-contain er-us (Read Step 7) The problem seems to be related to Servlet-Filters. These do not seem to work correctly with Websphere 6.1. In the site mentioned they have replaced the servlet-filter with a normal server. (The BRMS seems to use a servlet filter for /* url mapping). I have seen posts on other forums regarding the BRMS deployment on Websphere 6.1 but no answers as to how to make this work. Any, help would be appreciated. Cheers, Vikrant MASTEK LTD. Mastek is in NASSCOM's 'India Top 20' Software Service Exporters List. In the US, we're called MAJESCOMASTEK ~ ~ Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not that of Mastek Limited, unless specifically indicated to that effect. Mastek Limited does not accept any responsibility or liability for it. This e-mail and attachments (if any) transmitted with it are confidential and/or privileged and solely for the use of the intended person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any
Re: [rules-users] EPL relicense for eclipse tooling
Stay with BSD-style license No need to muddy the waters... On 18/06/08 12:31 AM, Mark Proctor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm contemplating EPLing the Eclipse tooling, anyone have any opions on this, good or bad? Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Level 3 85 Macquarie Street Hobart TAS 7000 Australia Phone: +61 3 6270 2276 Mobile: +61 4 0096 4240 Fax: +61 3 6270 2223 http://illation.com.au ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] MSB Example
Greetings Drools Users, Does anyone have, or know of, an example of using drools, fronted by a MDB? A stateful example would be fantastic, but any example welcome. I'm under a very tight deadline, and would like to leverage anything that's already been done to speed things up. Production quality not required; I just need to prove it will work. Regards, - Steve -- Level 3 85 Macquarie Street Hobart TAS 7000 Australia Phone: +61 3 6270 2276 Mobile: +61 4 0096 4240 Fax: +61 3 6270 2223 http://illation.com.au ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
