[rules-users] WS-Notifications support in Drools
Hi, Does Drools provides any support for WS-Notifications specifications. Does Drools have any implementations for WS-Notification specification e.t.c Many thanks in advance for any answer Yes or No. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/WS-Notifications-support-in-Drools-tp4021200.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Working with Drools PipelineFactory
HI, Does Drools 5.4.0 supports PipelineFactory. Any sample application regarding the same. Anu pointers will be useful. I have gone through link http://www.kijanowski.eu/index.php?site=articlesarticle=drools_pipelinelang=en -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Working-with-Drools-PipelineFactory-tp4020750.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Leveraging Drools project in JBPM workflow
Hi, Can you please provide some high level guidelines how I can use a Drools Rules Project created in Eclipse in jbpm workflow. Any pointers or high level guideline will be useful. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Leveraging-Drools-project-in-JBPM-workflow-tp4020691.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] WS-Event support in Drools
Hi, My question is does drools fusion supports WS-Event off the shelf. Are there any samples which I can go through to understand WS-Events through Drools Many thanks in advance. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/WS-Event-support-in-Drools-tp4020689.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] To expose Rule created in drools expert as a webservice
I am starting with Drools expertMy usecase is to expose the rule written in Drools Expert as webservice.This webservice can be consumed by some external application.My question: Is this feasible.Thanks a lot in advance. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/To-expose-Rule-created-in-drools-expert-as-a-webservice-tp4020600.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] rules doesn't run after redeploying my application EAR in Jboss
Hello, I am running JBoss 5.1.0 GA with drools 5.1.1 (added run-time libraries). I have several DRL files which resides outside my EAR in a 'rules' directory. When the EAR loads, I am loading the DRLs using: *KnowledgeBuilder kbuilder = KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder();* *for(...) {* * kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newFileResource(file), ResourceType.DRL); * } That works fine. When I do redeploy of the EAR, this code passed successfully, but the rules won't run anymore. When I switch to drools 5.0.1 run-time libraries, it returns to work. I need to work with 5.1.1 since I use some of the new features. I found an old post that was answered by Mark Proctor suggesting to use a single drools-all.jar: http://markmail.org/message/6yzc7c6ejdn6iekc#query:drools%20classloader%20problem+page:1+mid:6yzc7c6ejdn6iekc+state:results unfortunately, I could find such file in the 5.1.1 release. Other ideas that was tested and failed: 1. Tell Tomcat not to lock resources (configuration properties in context.xml) 2. Put all drools 5.1.1 jars and dependencies in the lib Any suggestion how to solve this issue? Thanks, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
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Re: [rules-users] Logging and BIRT
Thanks Kris. We were able to log events and now its in BIRT arena to generate some reports. Thanks for your help. -Amit 2010/4/12 Kris Verlaenen kris.verlae...@cs.kuleuven.be There is a little bit of documentation about how to create a history log: https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/docs/drools-flow/html/ch05.html#d0e1593 ... and how to do reporting: https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/docs/drools-flow/html/ch12.html Kris - Original Message - *From:* Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com *To:* Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Logging and BIRT Thanks Kris! Where are the docs for this module located. Couldn't find them in javadocs I downloaded. Thanks Amit 2010/4/8 Kris Verlaenen kris.verlae...@cs.kuleuven.be File logging is mostly for testing purposes. If you want to create a history log for reporting, take a look at the drools-bam module. This allows you create a logger that will create history information about the execution of your processes in a database, so that can be used as a data source in your reports. There are also a few sample reports in that module. new WorkingMemoryDbLogger(ksession); Kris - Original Message - *From:* Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com *To:* Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 5:02 PM *Subject:* [rules-users] Logging and BIRT Hi Folks, I tried simple logging by using this code KnowledgeRuntimeLogger logger = KnowledgeRuntimeLoggerFactory.newFileLogger(ksession, test); It logs only basic stuff. How can I log rule runtime, etc. Trying to generate a report using BIRT as mentioned here http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-flow/html_single/index.html#d0e2353 Thanks in advance, Amit -- ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Logging and BIRT
Thanks Kris! Where are the docs for this module located. Couldn't find them in javadocs I downloaded. Thanks Amit 2010/4/8 Kris Verlaenen kris.verlae...@cs.kuleuven.be File logging is mostly for testing purposes. If you want to create a history log for reporting, take a look at the drools-bam module. This allows you create a logger that will create history information about the execution of your processes in a database, so that can be used as a data source in your reports. There are also a few sample reports in that module. new WorkingMemoryDbLogger(ksession); Kris - Original Message - *From:* Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com *To:* Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 5:02 PM *Subject:* [rules-users] Logging and BIRT Hi Folks, I tried simple logging by using this code KnowledgeRuntimeLogger logger = KnowledgeRuntimeLoggerFactory.newFileLogger(ksession, test); It logs only basic stuff. How can I log rule runtime, etc. Trying to generate a report using BIRT as mentioned here http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-flow/html_single/index.html#d0e2353 Thanks in advance, Amit -- ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more information. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] creating .pkg from .drl
Cool.. Thanks folks! On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Ansgar Konermann ansgar.konerm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 03.04.2010 00:40, Amit Kumar wrote: Hi Folks, I am trying to create a .pkg file (for probably faster loading) from a .drl file Does anybody has a code snippet which I can use. Am unable to find it in javadocs. Hi, from what we figured out at work, they're just plain serialized knowledge packages (or rather, collections thereof). IIRC, this is also described somewhere in the docs. So all you need to do is: - create the knowledge packages in-memory using the normal KnowledgeBuilder api calls (loads of documentation available for this) - use java object serialization to write a CollectionKnowledgePackage into a file. Upon loading these packages, make sure all the classes used/imported in the *.drl files are available on the classpath, otherwise you probably won't be able to deserialize the packages. Kind regards Ansgar ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Job opening at Cisco - San Jose, CA
Hi All, I have put a opening at job board http://jobs.athico.com/job/software-engineer-iv-san-jose-ca-cisco-systems-c9aab2e6a2/?d=1source=site_home We are looking for a strong candidate to model and design the new application for Intellectual Capital Management Drools experience and good UI skills are desired. Please apply directly at Cisco.com Requisition Number:R860990 I am just posting here because I was not sure how many people look at the job boards. Thanks, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Job opening at Cisco - San Jose, CA
Yes Mark. Its a standard job posting from our group. We are not permitted to change the job description to provide more specific description as HR is also involved. But it is a position in our group and does require a person with prior Drools experience. Thank you for posting it on your Blog. Regards, Amit 2010/4/1 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org On 01/04/2010 16:59, Amit Kumar wrote: Hi All, I have put a opening at job board http://jobs.athico.com/job/software-engineer-iv-san-jose-ca-cisco-systems-c9aab2e6a2/?d=1source=site_home We are looking for a strong candidate to model and design the new application for Intellectual Capital Management Drools experience and good UI skills are desired. Please apply directly at Cisco.com Requisition Number:R860990 I am just posting here because I was not sure how many people look at the job boards. I just posted the job on the blog, someone noticed though the job advert itself does not mention drools? Mark Thanks, Amit ___ rules-users mailing listrules-us...@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Logging and BIRT
Hi Folks, I tried simple logging by using this code KnowledgeRuntimeLogger logger = KnowledgeRuntimeLoggerFactory.newFileLogger(ksession, test); It logs only basic stuff. How can I log rule runtime, etc. Trying to generate a report using BIRT as mentioned here http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-flow/html_single/index.html#d0e2353 Thanks in advance, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules categorization/packages
I do have get/set methods for each attribute. There are some extra files also which have some other functions. The same model is working fine in 5.0 and 5.1, its only having issue in the trunk and I wanted to use the trunk code if possible since it has support for collect and accumulate in guided editor... Thanks Amit 2010/3/18 Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com I added a comment to your jira entry. Please take a look. 2010/3/17 Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GUVNOR-514 Model is also there :) 2010/3/17 Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com It would be good too if you could provide us your model (or at least a part of it). Best, On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Toni Rikkola trikk...@redhat.comwrote: You can create a Jira for this and upload the jar file there. https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GUVNOR We will take a look at it and fix it if it is a bug. Toni Amit Kumar wrote: Sorry for spamming today It does seem to be working after I add Any of the following or All of the following and then add the attributes to it. So workaround is there.. But when I add There is a Equipment and add a attribute then it permits me to assign a variable to it like Equipment(eId : entityId) but it does not correctly give me that variable assigning capability in the Any of or All of blocks .. so struck issue. Thanks, Amit On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com mailto:amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Ok I tried again. :( In Equipment I only see manufacturer In EquipmentCA I also only see manufacturer In Software I do not see anything. It contains many more classes Not sure what I am breaking.. but if you want I can send you my model files to you (in case you want to try). Do not want to post it on alias Thanks Amit 2010/3/16 Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com mailto:esteban.alive...@gmail.com But, which fields didn't appear in guvnor? 2010/3/16 Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com mailto:amitku...@gmail.com Probably because of OStype and OSversion. Let me fix that and convert to lower case and try. I remember facing this issue sometime back with 5.0 Thanks Amit On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com mailto:amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Its coming from a JAR Thanks Amit Equipment entityIdint partNumber String manufacturerString owningEntityId int Software entityIdint OSType String OSVersion String imageName String EquipmentCA extends Equipment hostnameString productName String productFamily String productId String 2010/3/16 Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com mailto:esteban.alive...@gmail.com Are you importing your model from a .jar or using a Declarative Model? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Toni Rikkola trikk...@redhat.com mailto:trikk...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, Its possible that there are some bugs in the snapshots. Can you tell me what your model looks like? Toni Amit Kumar wrote: The latest builds seem to be no good for guvnor They do seem rich in features .. especially support for collect/accumulate in guvnor along with inbox and global packages. But But But.. on adding a fact in the when/then clause then all the attributes of the facts are not coming .. some attributes come.. not all of them. I am picking it from here https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/ Any other place I can look :) Thanks Amit On Mon
Re: [rules-users] Rules categorization/packages
Its coming from a JAR Thanks Amit Equipment entityId int partNumber String manufacturer String owningEntityId int Software entityId int OSType String OSVersion String imageName String EquipmentCA extends Equipment hostname String productName String productFamily String productId String 2010/3/16 Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com Are you importing your model from a .jar or using a Declarative Model? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Toni Rikkola trikk...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, Its possible that there are some bugs in the snapshots. Can you tell me what your model looks like? Toni Amit Kumar wrote: The latest builds seem to be no good for guvnor They do seem rich in features .. especially support for collect/accumulate in guvnor along with inbox and global packages. But But But.. on adding a fact in the when/then clause then all the attributes of the facts are not coming .. some attributes come.. not all of them. I am picking it from here https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/ Any other place I can look :) Thanks Amit On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com mailto:amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jervis!! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jervisliu j...@redhat.com mailto:j...@redhat.com wrote: A new feature called Sharable artifacts/Global artifacts will be available in Drools 5.1. This feature allows you share an asset among different packages. It also creates a global area (you can consider it as a global package). Potentially you can promote an asset that you think is more appropriate to be defined in a global scope from your current package to the global area, so that this global asset can be reused by every package. This feature is already on trunk, maybe you want to give it a try. Any comments or feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Cheers, Jervis Amit Kumar wrote: Hello All, I am looking to organize the rules in different categories. But for distribution purposes We are creating packages for different roles/processing phases So a rule will reside in one pckage but for navigation it can belong to multiple categories So packages are like Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Sweaters Categories are Color, Material, Size, Gender and those have sub categories witin them We have rules which will device the category of the item Like red rule, blue rule, cloth rule, leather rule Now the problem we are facing is for category rules is if I define the rule in Shirt package .. then I will not be able ot use it in Pant package.. Will have to redefine it. The other problem in this scenario is If I have a price rule in Shirt package and the category is Blue Color and XL Size then I will have to put it in both categories When I put the Blue Rule on Blue Category and XL Rule on XL Category and I put the rule in both categories.. will it be an and relationship or will be an OR Regards, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Esteban Aliverti ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules categorization/packages
Probably because of OStype and OSversion. Let me fix that and convert to lower case and try. I remember facing this issue sometime back with 5.0 Thanks Amit On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Its coming from a JAR Thanks Amit Equipment entityId int partNumber String manufacturer String owningEntityId int Software entityId int OSType String OSVersion String imageName String EquipmentCA extends Equipment hostname String productName String productFamily String productId String 2010/3/16 Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com Are you importing your model from a .jar or using a Declarative Model? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Toni Rikkola trikk...@redhat.comwrote: Hi, Its possible that there are some bugs in the snapshots. Can you tell me what your model looks like? Toni Amit Kumar wrote: The latest builds seem to be no good for guvnor They do seem rich in features .. especially support for collect/accumulate in guvnor along with inbox and global packages. But But But.. on adding a fact in the when/then clause then all the attributes of the facts are not coming .. some attributes come.. not all of them. I am picking it from here https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/ Any other place I can look :) Thanks Amit On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com mailto:amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jervis!! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jervisliu j...@redhat.com mailto:j...@redhat.com wrote: A new feature called Sharable artifacts/Global artifacts will be available in Drools 5.1. This feature allows you share an asset among different packages. It also creates a global area (you can consider it as a global package). Potentially you can promote an asset that you think is more appropriate to be defined in a global scope from your current package to the global area, so that this global asset can be reused by every package. This feature is already on trunk, maybe you want to give it a try. Any comments or feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Cheers, Jervis Amit Kumar wrote: Hello All, I am looking to organize the rules in different categories. But for distribution purposes We are creating packages for different roles/processing phases So a rule will reside in one pckage but for navigation it can belong to multiple categories So packages are like Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Sweaters Categories are Color, Material, Size, Gender and those have sub categories witin them We have rules which will device the category of the item Like red rule, blue rule, cloth rule, leather rule Now the problem we are facing is for category rules is if I define the rule in Shirt package .. then I will not be able ot use it in Pant package.. Will have to redefine it. The other problem in this scenario is If I have a price rule in Shirt package and the category is Blue Color and XL Size then I will have to put it in both categories When I put the Blue Rule on Blue Category and XL Rule on XL Category and I put the rule in both categories.. will it be an and relationship or will be an OR Regards, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Esteban Aliverti ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https
[rules-users] About fusion and collections
Hello All, Was doing some rule writing and am seeing some issues which I want to overcome. In Fusion when we send the facts into working memory.. there seems to be no way that rules are automatically getting triggered. We have to call fireAllRules after each fact insertion. Is this the way it was designed. Its like this in the stocktick example also This one should be simple for somebody with little more experience than me In the following rule rule raise alarm when Event($type : eventType) $events: ArrayList (size 10) from collect (Event(eventType == $type)) then raise alarm In the above rule the raise alarm is getting called 10 times. .. How can I make it to be called only once. Thanks Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] About fusion and collections
Kewl !.. sounds good. Thanks for your help folks. I will try the options out. 2010/3/15 Edson Tirelli ed.tire...@gmail.com Amit, Check fireUntilHalt() docs in order to set the engine to reactive mode... although, for most cases I've seen, you still have more control by defining the fireAllRules() cycle explicitly. Regarding your rule, the problem is that the first type is matched for multiple events. The simplest way to fix that is by pre-populating the working memory with all possible event types. In this case you would use a rule like: when EventType( $type : type ) $events: ArrayList (size 10) from collect (Event(eventType == $type)) then // do something end You can also find the distinct event types using accumulate, but that is heavier and more complex than the previous example. Lets say event type is a String: when $types : Set() from accumulate( Event($type : eventType), collectSet( $type ) ) $type : String() from $types $events: ArrayList (size 10) from collect (Event(eventType == $type)) then // do something end I don't really recommend the second approach though. An intermediate approach is to have a separate rule logically insert all event types, and then use the same approach of the first example above: declare EventType type : String @key end when Event( $type : eventType ) then EventType et = new EventType(); et.setType( $type ); logicalInsert( et ); end []s Edson 2010/3/15 Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com Hello All, Was doing some rule writing and am seeing some issues which I want to overcome. In Fusion when we send the facts into working memory.. there seems to be no way that rules are automatically getting triggered. We have to call fireAllRules after each fact insertion. Is this the way it was designed. Its like this in the stocktick example also This one should be simple for somebody with little more experience than me In the following rule rule raise alarm when Event($type : eventType) $events: ArrayList (size 10) from collect (Event(eventType == $type)) then raise alarm In the above rule the raise alarm is getting called 10 times. .. How can I make it to be called only once. Thanks Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Edson Tirelli JBoss Drools Core Development JBoss by Red Hat @ www.jboss.com ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules categorization/packages
The latest builds seem to be no good for guvnor They do seem rich in features .. especially support for collect/accumulate in guvnor along with inbox and global packages. But But But.. on adding a fact in the when/then clause then all the attributes of the facts are not coming .. some attributes come.. not all of them. I am picking it from here https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/ Any other place I can look :) Thanks Amit On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jervis!! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jervisliu j...@redhat.com wrote: A new feature called Sharable artifacts/Global artifacts will be available in Drools 5.1. This feature allows you share an asset among different packages. It also creates a global area (you can consider it as a global package). Potentially you can promote an asset that you think is more appropriate to be defined in a global scope from your current package to the global area, so that this global asset can be reused by every package. This feature is already on trunk, maybe you want to give it a try. Any comments or feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Cheers, Jervis Amit Kumar wrote: Hello All, I am looking to organize the rules in different categories. But for distribution purposes We are creating packages for different roles/processing phases So a rule will reside in one pckage but for navigation it can belong to multiple categories So packages are like Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Sweaters Categories are Color, Material, Size, Gender and those have sub categories witin them We have rules which will device the category of the item Like red rule, blue rule, cloth rule, leather rule Now the problem we are facing is for category rules is if I define the rule in Shirt package .. then I will not be able ot use it in Pant package.. Will have to redefine it. The other problem in this scenario is If I have a price rule in Shirt package and the category is Blue Color and XL Size then I will have to put it in both categories When I put the Blue Rule on Blue Category and XL Rule on XL Category and I put the rule in both categories.. will it be an and relationship or will be an OR Regards, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Natural Language
Hi All, As you might have understood with my so many questions :) I am looking at the capabilities of Drools and our team is looking at a comparitive analysis between Drools and ILOG One of the feature which is greatly desired is natural language editor. So I am planning to create my own DSL creator Poor man's version which will introspect the class and generate some DSLs for our need. An old Blog http://blog.athico.com/2007/03/standards-based-approach-to-natural.html points to an interesting article. Does anybody knows where this item is in the roadmap. Another suggestion I had was on the Roles and Permissions for the users. There is a option in drools to permit access for a user to a package and category. It would be good to add Status to the mix so that the novide user is prevented from moving rules to production. Small change.. big gain :) Does anybody has a pointer to a demo of drools showing its capabilities. Or a comparitive analysis with ILOG. We are able to show lot of good use for the tool.. but the data model we have is causing us big headaches in writing easily understandable rules. The scenario is that we have a lot of attributes of a fact. And as part of model extension lot of attributes are constantly added to the fact. To make this easier so that we do not have to update the model - we have put a (key value pair) for the attributes. So the model structure is MainFact mainAttr1 String mainAttr2 String List additionalAttrsAdditionalAttributes = new ArrayListAdditionalAttributes(); AdditionalAttributes attrName String attrValue String So now in guided editor or DSl editor it becomes a nightmare to write a rule.. and our rule writers will beat us up if we ask them to write a rule like aa: AdditionalAttributes (attrName == var1, val : attrValue) a: MainFact (mainAttr1 == mainVal, additionalAttrs contains aa) Any easy solution for this :) Thanks, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules categorization/packages
Thanks Jervis!! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jervisliu j...@redhat.com wrote: A new feature called Sharable artifacts/Global artifacts will be available in Drools 5.1. This feature allows you share an asset among different packages. It also creates a global area (you can consider it as a global package). Potentially you can promote an asset that you think is more appropriate to be defined in a global scope from your current package to the global area, so that this global asset can be reused by every package. This feature is already on trunk, maybe you want to give it a try. Any comments or feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Cheers, Jervis Amit Kumar wrote: Hello All, I am looking to organize the rules in different categories. But for distribution purposes We are creating packages for different roles/processing phases So a rule will reside in one pckage but for navigation it can belong to multiple categories So packages are like Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Sweaters Categories are Color, Material, Size, Gender and those have sub categories witin them We have rules which will device the category of the item Like red rule, blue rule, cloth rule, leather rule Now the problem we are facing is for category rules is if I define the rule in Shirt package .. then I will not be able ot use it in Pant package.. Will have to redefine it. The other problem in this scenario is If I have a price rule in Shirt package and the category is Blue Color and XL Size then I will have to put it in both categories When I put the Blue Rule on Blue Category and XL Rule on XL Category and I put the rule in both categories.. will it be an and relationship or will be an OR Regards, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Rules categorization/packages
Hello All, I am looking to organize the rules in different categories. But for distribution purposes We are creating packages for different roles/processing phases So a rule will reside in one pckage but for navigation it can belong to multiple categories So packages are like Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Sweaters Categories are Color, Material, Size, Gender and those have sub categories witin them We have rules which will device the category of the item Like red rule, blue rule, cloth rule, leather rule Now the problem we are facing is for category rules is if I define the rule in Shirt package .. then I will not be able ot use it in Pant package.. Will have to redefine it. The other problem in this scenario is If I have a price rule in Shirt package and the category is Blue Color and XL Size then I will have to put it in both categories When I put the Blue Rule on Blue Category and XL Rule on XL Category and I put the rule in both categories.. will it be an and relationship or will be an OR Regards, Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] What is the Best practice of using Drools Fusion in a Load balancing environment (ie temporal reasoning between 2 working memories)??
Currently we work off a database to share events for load balancing and issues related to restarts But that takes a hit on performance. It will also be good to have event type/event content based expiry times so that we can reduce the size of heap. -Amit 2010/2/19 Chetan Mahadev mahadev.che...@gmail.com Hi Can anyone tell me how to Implement temporal based event correlation using drools fusion in a load balancing environment. What is the best practice in a situation like this?? Use case : To correlate events which comes into the system with in a time window. Scenario1: Single System Scenario: that is One working memory 1.All the events come into the system, 2.Temporal based rules are written using Drools-Fusion. 3.Correlations takes place if all the events come with in the time window, else the rule expires. Note: All these takes place with in a single working memory ( Single System) Scenario2: Two System Scenario in active/active: that is two working memories 1.All the events come into the system, 2.Temporal based rules are written using Drools-Fusion. 3. Same rules are deployed in both the systems (active/active) 4.Both systems are load-balanced, 5. Event1 goes to System1, Event2 goes to System2 and again Event3 goes system1. ( load -balanced) As a result, System1 recieves 2 events out of 3 events, and System2 the other 1 event. Correlation never happens since I dont recieve all the events in a single working memory. How do we handle this kinda scenario?? Do we have any best practise that is followed in a clustered or load-balanced environment?? Pls help me.. I am stuck. Regds Chetan In a single system, Fusion/temporal based correlation works completely fine. Use case: I have a situation, where events flow into two active components (both running simultaneosly) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Category Rules - Guvnor
Hi Folks, I am looking at the category rules and have a scenario to use it. Goes like this Person Name String City String income int I want to categorize the rules in states -US -- NewYork -- Seatle -- SanFrancisco I have created 3 rules rule people living in NY when Person(city=NewYork then end rule people living in Seatle when Person(city=Seatle then end rule people living in SFO when Person(city=SanFrancisco then end I associated the above rules with appropriate categories Then I create tax rules rule ny tax -- category NewYork when Person() then Log .. Tax = 10% end rule WA tax -- category Seatle when Person() then Log .. Tax = 20% end rule ny tax -- category NewYork when Person() then Log .. Tax = 10% end When I create a object in test scenario of person type .. then all the rules get executed.. The category rule is not having any effect Is there any documentation on how this works?? Thanks Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Category Rules - Guvnor
Thanks Michael for the quick reply I don't see that anywhere in the documentation and when I do a view package source then I do not see any extends keyword. Can you point me to some documentaion in this regards on how it works. Thanks Amit On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael Rhoden mrho...@franklinamerican.com wrote: The category rule should just extend all child rules in that category. If all is working your generated DRL should have extends in the tax (etc) rules. -Michael On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, I am looking at the category rules and have a scenario to use it. Goes like this Person Name String City String income int I want to categorize the rules in states -US -- NewYork -- Seatle -- SanFrancisco I have created 3 rules rule people living in NY when Person(city=NewYork then end rule people living in Seatle when Person(city=Seatle then end rule people living in SFO when Person(city=SanFrancisco then end I associated the above rules with appropriate categories Then I create tax rules rule ny tax -- category NewYork when Person() then Log .. Tax = 10% end rule WA tax -- category Seatle when Person() then Log .. Tax = 20% end rule ny tax -- category NewYork when Person() then Log .. Tax = 10% end When I create a object in test scenario of person type .. then all the rules get executed.. The category rule is not having any effect Is there any documentation on how this works?? Thanks Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Category Rules - Guvnor
ok it seems to be working.. I can see the extends keyword getting generated. I will try to simulate a simple scenario again.. thanks folks for your help Thanks Amit On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Michael for the quick reply I don't see that anywhere in the documentation and when I do a view package source then I do not see any extends keyword. Can you point me to some documentaion in this regards on how it works. Thanks Amit On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael Rhoden mrho...@franklinamerican.com wrote: The category rule should just extend all child rules in that category. If all is working your generated DRL should have extends in the tax (etc) rules. -Michael On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Amit Kumar amitku...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, I am looking at the category rules and have a scenario to use it. Goes like this Person Name String City String income int I want to categorize the rules in states -US -- NewYork -- Seatle -- SanFrancisco I have created 3 rules rule people living in NY when Person(city=NewYork then end rule people living in Seatle when Person(city=Seatle then end rule people living in SFO when Person(city=SanFrancisco then end I associated the above rules with appropriate categories Then I create tax rules rule ny tax -- category NewYork when Person() then Log .. Tax = 10% end rule WA tax -- category Seatle when Person() then Log .. Tax = 20% end rule ny tax -- category NewYork when Person() then Log .. Tax = 10% end When I create a object in test scenario of person type .. then all the rules get executed.. The category rule is not having any effect Is there any documentation on how this works?? Thanks Amit ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Parsing input text file
Hi All , I am new to this drools technology and want to do a prototype for checking its feasibility for our use. Most of the places I believe it will work fine.. but I have a use case of parsing input files recd in different formats. Scenario: I have 2 input files 1. ## Test config Start 100 bytes available 250 bytes total 1000 bytes is my life goal ## 2: ## Test config Start 200 bytes available 300 bytes used 500 bytes total 2000 bytes is my life goal ## I have to extract the numbers from here and populate an output objects.. containing whatever value is possible.. so for the first instance I will be able to populate 3 values.. but for the second one I will be able to extract 4 values I wrote a file to work on the first case but I am unable to get it working. Can somebody help me to complete this prototype.. (I am very new to this so please pardon my ignorance.. I just looked at help file and am trying to build this :) ) Thanks for looking.. - Amit ### ParsingExample.java ### package org.drools.examples; import java.io.InputStreamReader; import org.drools.FactHandle; import org.drools.RuleBase; import org.drools.RuleBaseFactory; import org.drools.StatefulSession; import org.drools.audit.WorkingMemoryFileLogger; import org.drools.compiler.PackageBuilder; import java.util.*; public class ParsingExample { /** * @param args */ public static void main(final String[] args) throws Exception { final PackageBuilder builder = new PackageBuilder(); builder.addPackageFromDrl( new InputStreamReader( ParsingExample.class.getResourceAsStream( Parsing.drl ) ) ); final RuleBase ruleBase = RuleBaseFactory.newRuleBase(); ruleBase.addPackage( builder.getPackage() ); final StatefulSession session = ruleBase.newStatefulSession(); final WorkingMemoryFileLogger logger = new WorkingMemoryFileLogger( session ); logger.setFileName( log/OutputObj ); String config = ; config += Test config Start\n; config += 100 bytes available 250 bytes total\n; config += 1000 bytes is my life goal; String[] configA = config.split(\n); List configL = new ArrayList(); for (int i=0; i configA.length; i++) { configL.add(new Row(configA )); } final Lines l1 = new Lines( configL ); final InputConfig a = new InputConfig( l1 ); final OutputObj t1 = new OutputObj(); session.insert( a ); session.insert( t1 ); config = ; config += Test config Start\n; config += 200 bytes available 300 bytes used 500 bytes total\n; config += 2000 bytes is my life goal; configA = config.split(\n); configL = new ArrayList(); for (int i=0; i configA.length; i++) { configL.add(new Row(configA )); } final Lines l2 = new Lines( configL ); final InputConfig b = new InputConfig( l2 ); final OutputObj t2 = new OutputObj(); session.insert( b ); session.insert( t2 ); session.fireAllRules(); session.dispose(); logger.writeToDisk(); } public static class Row { private String val; public Row() { } public Row(final String val) { this.val = val; } public String getVal() { return this.val; } public String toString() { return [Row + : + this.val + ]; } } public static class Lines { private List rows; public Lines() { } public Lines(final List rows) { this.rows = rows; } public List getRows() { return this.rows; } public String toString() { return [Lines + : + this.rows.toString() + ]; } } public static class InputConfig { private Lines config; public InputConfig() { } public InputConfig(final Lines config) { this.config = config; } public Lines getConfig() { return this.config; } public String toString() { return [InputConfig + : + this.config.toString() + ]; } } public static class OutputObj { private String bu = ; private String ba = ; private String bt = ; private String blg = ; public OutputObj() { } public String getBu() { return this.bu; } public void setBu(final String bu) { this.bu = bu; } public String getBa() { return this.ba; } public void setBa(final String ba) { this.ba = ba; } public String getBt() { return this.bt; } public void setBt(final String bt) { this.bt = bt; } public String getBlg() { return this.blg; } public void setBlg(final String blg) { this.blg = blg; } public String toString() { return [OutputObj + used: + this.bu + avail: + this.ba + total: + this.bt + Goal: + this.blg + ]; } } } ### Parsing.drl ### package org.drools.examples import org.drools.examples.ParsingExample.InputConfig; import org.drools.examples.ParsingExample.OutputObj; import org.drools.examples.ParsingExample.Lines; import org.drools.examples.ParsingExample.Row; rule get Bytes v10 salience 10 when $o : OutputObj() $i : InputConfig() InputConfig( $conf : config) $row : rows( val
Re: [rules-users] Drools compiler memory stateless sessions?
hi, I was facing similar issues some time back, though I was using a ruleflow and had 2 fact objects evaluated daily. The problem I was facing was that the running time would get significantly slower day by day. The solution that fixed it was to use a statefulSession and call dispose() on the session once it is done. This made a single-run slower than before, but atleast fixed the problem of exponentially increasing the run-time after several days. This might not necessarily be the ideal solution, so before you move to a StatefulSession and call session.dispose() after processing, you might want to try to increase the memory for the jvm, if is lower than the size of your facts, this might fix it. It'd be useful to know if somebody has a better solution to Kris's problem. Thanks, - am On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Kris Nuttycombe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, all, I'm encountering significant problems with running out of memory when executing a small ruleset (only 16 rules, 100 facts). I've run jmap on the process (which has previously spawned multiple stateless sessions in parallel) and it looks like Drools, and specifically the Eclipse jdt compiler, is seriously eating up memory. The code calling the is fairly simple; one of the initial facts is an accumulator that I refer to later: StatelessSession session = ruleBase.newStatelessSession(); session.execute(initialFact, accumulator); accumulator.doSomething(); where ruleBase is a shared instance, and initialFact is a base fact that is expanded during rules processing. Is there something I should be doing to dispose the session after use to release the objects created by the drools compiler after use? I'm using a shared RuleBase, and I'm wondering whether it is somehow keeping references around. Are these sorts of object counts to be expected? Thanks, Kris Instance Counts for All Classes (excluding platform) 104827 instanceshttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaacf5646f8of class net.jxta.impl.document.LiteXMLElement$charRangehttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaacf5646f8 26806 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaacf5631e8 of class net.jxta.impl.document.LiteXMLElement$tagRangehttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaacf5631e8 26733 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad66ea7f0 of class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.MethodBindinghttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad66ea7f0 17366 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad66e3c88 of class [Lorg.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.TypeBinding;http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad66e3c88 12412 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaacf032560 of class com.sun.enterprise.loader.EJBClassLoader$SentinelInputStreamhttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaacf032560 10974 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad5504450 of class org.apache.commons.collections.SequencedHashMap$Entryhttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad5504450 8683 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad68c3840 of class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.codegen.CachedIndexEntryhttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad68c3840 7708 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaacf55e9d8 of class net.jxta.impl.document.LiteXMLElementhttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaacf55e9d8 7450 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad5c4b6c0 of class org.hibernate.engine.CollectionKeyhttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad5c4b6c0 6836 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaaced3c3f8 of class org.netbeans.modules.schema2beans.AttrProphttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaaced3c3f8 6271 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad6642d18 of class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.FieldBindinghttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad6642d18 5643 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad6796890 of class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.ast.MessageSendhttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad6796890 4928 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad68a6018 of class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.util.HashtableOfObjecthttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad68a6018 4895 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad66e3fa8 of class [Lorg.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.ReferenceBinding;http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad66e3fa8 4546 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad669f968 of class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.LocalVariableBindinghttp://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad669f968 4472 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad687a0a8 of class [Lorg.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.LocalVariableBinding;http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/class/0x2aaad687a0a8 4128 instances http://carrot.gaiam.com:7000/instances/0x2aaad6103ff0 of class
[rules-users] Performance issues with using RuleFlow with StatelessSession
Hi, this might either be a java-users questions or a drools-users, but I'd like to try here to see if somebody has any suggestions for me. I have observed that the ruleFlow that I am using gets slower and slower since its initial deployment. It initially started taking like 30mins to evaluate all the rules, but the run-time goes up to about 4hours in about 4 days. I am using a statelessSession. I do a RuleBaseFactory().newRuleBase() and ruleBase.newStatelessSession() each time I begin an evaluation (I evaluate about 50k objects, once a day). I have the ruleBase as a private instance in an EvaluationHandler which does other evaluations as well and is a singleton which is obtained from a factory. Has anyone else too on this forum faced this issue? I found this archive, but no reply to it: http://www.nabble.com/Performance-Question-with-Stateless-Session-to14704425.html#a14704425 Could it be that a new ruleBase is being created each time I do an evaluation (it obviously is), but a reference to the old ruleBase still hangs around (and hence the entire WorkingMemory)? I checked the RuleBase apis and I couldn't find anything that could help me clear the workingMemory once I am done with evaluating all the rules. Would be great if somebody could ched some light into this issue that I am facing and/or let me know the path I must follow to find the root-cause of the slowing down of the evaluations. Thanks, - am ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Is there a way to preventing the Agenda to not match against ALL rules when inserting a fact object
Hi, I am migrating one of my projects to using the drools rule-flow. I have a bunch of RuleFlowGroups and just 1 fact object (where I am iterating over an external list and hence I execute the RuleFlow tens of thousands times, inserting a new fact object for each element in my list). Each RuleFlowGroup is a logical set of rules that would set a certain variable in the FactObject and eventually after the flow is executed, the last RuleFlowGroup will return the outcome based on the variable set by the previous RuleFlowGroups. I am using a statelessSession. The problem I am facing is that when I insert the FactObject into the workingMemory - then the data points needed by ALL the rules across ALL the RuleFlowGroups are gathered, i.e. the getter beans for all variables used across all the RuleFlowGroups are invoked. The activations take place according to the ruleFlow, but the data is gathered for all the rules (though my flow might not reach certain groups). The thing is, this behavior is not ideal for the task I am working with, since some of the data points are pretty expensive to be gathered (requiring expensive queries to be executed). What I'd ideally like is that the data be gathered only for one RuleFlowGroup at a time, since my rules are structured such a way that only a fraction of the evaluations should actually need the expensive data points. The data be gathered for the rules in a ruleFlowGroup only when that group is active. I understand that this might take a hit for the efficiency of the matching algorithm, but it would be ideal for my task. I've dug through the documentation for AgendaGroups, SequentialMode etc, but nothing seems to be working for me. Has somebody faced a similar problem? Could somebody point me in the direction I should be following to resolve this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, - am ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users