Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order
That's a relief. Any news as to when final will be released? Thanks, Thomas From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli Sent: 19 October 2011 01:23 To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order This was a duplicate of https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3111 that was fixed last week. It will be released in 5.3.0.final. Edson 2011/10/18 Swindells, Thomas tswinde...@nds.commailto:tswinde...@nds.com Ouch looks like we and anybody on 5.1.1 needs to desperately update then. Though I am rather concerned by this issue https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3211 Rules fires on incorrect condition - has this been looked at/is the issue correct as a rules engine which fires random rules when it shouldn't would be problematic! Thomas From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Laun Sent: 18 October 2011 11:05 To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order There used to be a subtle bug in the PriorityHeapQueue containing the activations. See https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3044 -W 2011/10/18 Swindells, Thomas tswinde...@nds.commailto:tswinde...@nds.com In our project we have been experiencing a large number of intermittent unit test failures when we are testing our rules (on drools 5.1.1). After a lot of debugging, examining our rules for logic errors, experimenting and generally scratching our head trying to work out what is wrong, we have noticed that sometimes (but very intermittently) activations are firing in the wrong order. In our rulebase we have two rules, Rule A salience 80 and Rule B salience 70. Whilst debugging we made Rule A and B are identical other than rule B having some additional constraints on the end. Dumping out the agenda events we have observed the following actions occurring: BEFORE_FIRED rule X CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule A CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule B AFTER_FIRED rule X ... (no references to either rule/activation) BEFORE_FIRED Rule B CANCELLED Rule A AFTER_FIRED Rule B How can Rule B be firing before Rule A when both activations exist? Does anybody know of any bugs in 5.1.1 that may be causing this? We have a branch of code on 5.3 and that also has had intermittent unit test failures, we've not had chance to examine whether this is the same pattern or just a different logic issue. Please help, Thomas ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.commailto:postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 ** ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Edson Tirelli JBoss Drools Core Development JBoss by Red Hat @ www.jboss.comhttp://www.jboss.com ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order
I had to upgrade to 5.2 to get away from the same salience bug. So far 5.2 has been very good to us other than the outrageous amount of memory it takes to load up a large rule base (which you can partially get around using the latest mvel jar). -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-Help-Activations-firing-out-of-salience-order-tp3430611p3435291.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order
In our project we have been experiencing a large number of intermittent unit test failures when we are testing our rules (on drools 5.1.1). After a lot of debugging, examining our rules for logic errors, experimenting and generally scratching our head trying to work out what is wrong, we have noticed that sometimes (but very intermittently) activations are firing in the wrong order. In our rulebase we have two rules, Rule A salience 80 and Rule B salience 70. Whilst debugging we made Rule A and B are identical other than rule B having some additional constraints on the end. Dumping out the agenda events we have observed the following actions occurring: BEFORE_FIRED rule X CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule A CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule B AFTER_FIRED rule X ... (no references to either rule/activation) BEFORE_FIRED Rule B CANCELLED Rule A AFTER_FIRED Rule B How can Rule B be firing before Rule A when both activations exist? Does anybody know of any bugs in 5.1.1 that may be causing this? We have a branch of code on 5.3 and that also has had intermittent unit test failures, we've not had chance to examine whether this is the same pattern or just a different logic issue. Please help, Thomas ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 ** ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order
There used to be a subtle bug in the PriorityHeapQueue containing the activations. See https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3044 -W 2011/10/18 Swindells, Thomas tswinde...@nds.com In our project we have been experiencing a large number of intermittent unit test failures when we are testing our rules (on drools 5.1.1). After a lot of debugging, examining our rules for logic errors, experimenting and generally scratching our head trying to work out what is wrong, we have noticed that sometimes (but very intermittently) activations are firing in the wrong order. ** ** In our rulebase we have two rules, Rule A salience 80 and Rule B salience 70. Whilst debugging we made Rule A and B are identical other than rule B having some additional constraints on the end. Dumping out the agenda events we have observed the following actions occurring: BEFORE_FIRED rule X CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule A CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule B AFTER_FIRED rule X ** ** … (no references to either rule/activation) ** ** BEFORE_FIRED Rule B CANCELLED Rule A AFTER_FIRED Rule B ** ** How can Rule B be firing before Rule A when both activations exist? Does anybody know of any bugs in 5.1.1 that may be causing this? We have a branch of code on 5.3 and that also has had intermittent unit test failures, we’ve not had chance to examine whether this is the same pattern or just a different logic issue. ** ** Please help, ** ** Thomas ** ** ** ** -- ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 ** ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order
Ouch looks like we and anybody on 5.1.1 needs to desperately update then. Though I am rather concerned by this issue https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3211 Rules fires on incorrect condition - has this been looked at/is the issue correct as a rules engine which fires random rules when it shouldn't would be problematic! Thomas From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Laun Sent: 18 October 2011 11:05 To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order There used to be a subtle bug in the PriorityHeapQueue containing the activations. See https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3044 -W 2011/10/18 Swindells, Thomas tswinde...@nds.commailto:tswinde...@nds.com In our project we have been experiencing a large number of intermittent unit test failures when we are testing our rules (on drools 5.1.1). After a lot of debugging, examining our rules for logic errors, experimenting and generally scratching our head trying to work out what is wrong, we have noticed that sometimes (but very intermittently) activations are firing in the wrong order. In our rulebase we have two rules, Rule A salience 80 and Rule B salience 70. Whilst debugging we made Rule A and B are identical other than rule B having some additional constraints on the end. Dumping out the agenda events we have observed the following actions occurring: BEFORE_FIRED rule X CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule A CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule B AFTER_FIRED rule X ... (no references to either rule/activation) BEFORE_FIRED Rule B CANCELLED Rule A AFTER_FIRED Rule B How can Rule B be firing before Rule A when both activations exist? Does anybody know of any bugs in 5.1.1 that may be causing this? We have a branch of code on 5.3 and that also has had intermittent unit test failures, we've not had chance to examine whether this is the same pattern or just a different logic issue. Please help, Thomas ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.commailto:postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 ** ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order
This was a duplicate of https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3111 that was fixed last week. It will be released in 5.3.0.final. Edson 2011/10/18 Swindells, Thomas tswinde...@nds.com Ouch looks like we and anybody on 5.1.1 needs to desperately update then.* *** Though I am rather concerned by this issue https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3211 “Rules fires on incorrect condition” – has this been looked at/is the issue correct as a rules engine which fires random rules when it shouldn’t would be problematic! ** ** Thomas ** ** *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Wolfgang Laun *Sent:* 18 October 2011 11:05 *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Help! Activations firing out of salience order ** ** There used to be a subtle bug in the PriorityHeapQueue containing the activations. See https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3044 -W 2011/10/18 Swindells, Thomas tswinde...@nds.com In our project we have been experiencing a large number of intermittent unit test failures when we are testing our rules (on drools 5.1.1). After a lot of debugging, examining our rules for logic errors, experimenting and generally scratching our head trying to work out what is wrong, we have noticed that sometimes (but very intermittently) activations are firing in the wrong order. In our rulebase we have two rules, Rule A salience 80 and Rule B salience 70. Whilst debugging we made Rule A and B are identical other than rule B having some additional constraints on the end. Dumping out the agenda events we have observed the following actions occurring: BEFORE_FIRED rule X CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule A CREATED_ACTIVATION Rule B AFTER_FIRED rule X … (no references to either rule/activation) BEFORE_FIRED Rule B CANCELLED Rule A AFTER_FIRED Rule B How can Rule B be firing before Rule A when both activations exist? Does anybody know of any bugs in 5.1.1 that may be causing this? We have a branch of code on 5.3 and that also has had intermittent unit test failures, we’ve not had chance to examine whether this is the same pattern or just a different logic issue. Please help, Thomas ** ** -- ** This message is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the postmas...@nds.com and delete it from your system as well as any copies. The content of e-mails as well as traffic data may be monitored by NDS for employment and security purposes. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. NDS Limited. Registered Office: One London Road, Staines, Middlesex, TW18 4EX, United Kingdom. A company registered in England and Wales. Registered no. 3080780. VAT no. GB 603 8808 40-00 ** ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ** ** ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Edson Tirelli JBoss Drools Core Development JBoss by Red Hat @ www.jboss.com ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
