Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section?
rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org wrote on 05/19/2009 06:40:34 PM: [image removed] Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section? Late Norther to: Rules Users List 05/19/2009 06:53 PM Sent by: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org Please respond to Rules Users List 2009/5/19 Michal Bali michalb...@gmail.com: Hi Jon, You could use webdav to connect to Guvnor - http://blog.athico.com/2008/05/accessing-guvnor-as-filesystem-webdav.html. You should then see how Guvnor stores the 'business rules', I think it is an XML file. Then instead of generating DRL file you could generate this XML. You can then upload these files via webdav into Guvnor. Hope this helps. Regards, Michal Michal, I can't thank you enough. This worked well. For others, here is a review of what I did. 1. Created a 'dummy' rule using the guided editor in my target package. 2. Used the blog URL above to mount the package webdav share 3. Downloaded the 'dummy' rule from the webdav share to act as a template 4. Updated my Perl import/export script to create .brl files instead of .drl files, using the template. 5. Copied the new .brl files created by my utility script to the webdav share. 6. Go back to Guvnor GWT and saw/confirmed my rules. The only snafu I found was that I am unable to populate a category as part of the import, but I can have my analysts do that by hand if needed. That apparently is not stored in the .brl, but rather somewhere else. I did confirm that I can update the category in the UI after the load. Again, Thank you. Jon ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Jon, We are currently trying to convert our drl files to brls as well. Would it be possible to share your perl conversion utility? We were just about to start creating a similar script, but it would help us out greatly if we could have a look at yours. Thanks, Steve ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section?
People, Just a heads up, .brl rules are intended to be simpler rules authored/maintained by business people. While it is a good to have the ability to edit them with the guided editor, they are limited in what they can express. Just as one example, as of now, they don't support from syntax, meaning you can not use collect/accumulate/entry-point. If you don't use that and a couple other things, its not problem then. I wanted to give this heads up so that people is aware before hand to avoid waste time in some cases. BTW, it is not that we can't change that in the future. It is just how things are now. []s Edson 2009/5/20 Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org wrote on 05/19/2009 06:40:34 PM: [image removed] Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section? Late Norther to: Rules Users List 05/19/2009 06:53 PM Sent by: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org Please respond to Rules Users List 2009/5/19 Michal Bali michalb...@gmail.com: Hi Jon, You could use webdav to connect to Guvnor - http://blog.athico.com/2008/05/accessing-guvnor-as-filesystem-webdav.html. You should then see how Guvnor stores the 'business rules', I think it is an XML file. Then instead of generating DRL file you could generate this XML. You can then upload these files via webdav into Guvnor. Hope this helps. Regards, Michal Michal, I can't thank you enough. This worked well. For others, here is a review of what I did. 1. Created a 'dummy' rule using the guided editor in my target package. 2. Used the blog URL above to mount the package webdav share 3. Downloaded the 'dummy' rule from the webdav share to act as a template 4. Updated my Perl import/export script to create .brl files instead of .drl files, using the template. 5. Copied the new .brl files created by my utility script to the webdav share. 6. Go back to Guvnor GWT and saw/confirmed my rules. The only snafu I found was that I am unable to populate a category as part of the import, but I can have my analysts do that by hand if needed. That apparently is not stored in the .brl, but rather somewhere else. I did confirm that I can update the category in the UI after the load. Again, Thank you. Jon ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Jon, We are currently trying to convert our drl files to brls as well. Would it be possible to share your perl conversion utility? We were just about to start creating a similar script, but it would help us out greatly if we could have a look at yours. Thanks, Steve ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Edson Tirelli JBoss Drools Core Development JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section?
2009/5/20 Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com
Jon,
We are currently trying to convert our drl files to brls as well. Would
it be possible to share your perl conversion utility? We were just about to
start creating a similar script, but it would help us out greatly if we
could have a look at yours.
Thanks,
Steve
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Hi Steve,
I am not sure my script would be too useful as it did not convert .drl
to .brl, but rather our own rule language (stored in DB tables) to
.brl.The Perl script pulled the needed values from the DB tables
and then did nothing more than write .brl files using XML templates
like this:
my $rule = EOF;
rule
name$rulename/name
modelVersion1.0/modelVersion
attributes
attribute
attributeNamesalience/attributeName
value$salience/value
/attribute
attribute
attributeNameenabled/attributeName
value$enabled/value
/attribute
attribute
attributeNameactivation-group/attributeName
valuefoo/value
/attribute
/attributes
metadataList/
lhs
fact
constraintList
constraints
fieldConstraint
value$lang/value
constraintValueType1/constraintValueType
fieldNamelanguageString/fieldName
operator==/operator
fieldTypeString/fieldType
/fieldConstraint
/constraints
/constraintList
factTypeLanguage/factType
/fact
...
...
...
...
Then of course just writing the rule file.
unless (open(OUT, $outfile))
{
die Unable to open output file;
}
print OUT $rule\n;
close OUT;
As I mentioned before, to create the template, I just created some
similar-looking rules using the guided graphical editor and looked at
the resulting XML.
We will also use .drl files too, but for the simple rules which are
managed by analysts, the more basic .brl functionality is going to
work quite well IMO.
Jon
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Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section?
Hi Jon, You could use webdav to connect to Guvnor - http://blog.athico.com/2008/05/accessing-guvnor-as-filesystem-webdav.html. You should then see how Guvnor stores the 'business rules', I think it is an XML file. Then instead of generating DRL file you could generate this XML. You can then upload these files via webdav into Guvnor. Hope this helps. Regards, Michal On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Late Norther latenort...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, We are trying to develop a system based on Drools and want to have a repository based on JBoss and manage it from the Guvnor website. Now, we have a few questions: 1) Can we import DRL files into the Business rules section, so that later we can view/modify them using the graphical interface (text boxes, drop down menus, etc)? This will be very useful for production use. What we tried so far, imports them as text in the Technical rules section I have the identical question. I have created a utility which takes our own homegrown rules and converts them (hundreds of rules) into a DRL file. I too have been able to import them into Guvnor, but was hoping they could then be modified via the graphical editor instead of the technical rule editor. The rules are simple and do not contain anything that Guvnor's graphical editor does not support. I have a feeling this is an enhancement request, but just in case anyone knew of a workaround to change the type of rule from technical rule to business rule. Thanks, Jon ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section?
2009/5/19 Michal Bali michalb...@gmail.com: Hi Jon, You could use webdav to connect to Guvnor - http://blog.athico.com/2008/05/accessing-guvnor-as-filesystem-webdav.html. You should then see how Guvnor stores the 'business rules', I think it is an XML file. Then instead of generating DRL file you could generate this XML. You can then upload these files via webdav into Guvnor. Hope this helps. Regards, Michal Michal, I can't thank you enough. This worked well. For others, here is a review of what I did. 1. Created a 'dummy' rule using the guided editor in my target package. 2. Used the blog URL above to mount the package webdav share 3. Downloaded the 'dummy' rule from the webdav share to act as a template 4. Updated my Perl import/export script to create .brl files instead of .drl files, using the template. 5. Copied the new .brl files created by my utility script to the webdav share. 6. Go back to Guvnor GWT and saw/confirmed my rules. The only snafu I found was that I am unable to populate a category as part of the import, but I can have my analysts do that by hand if needed. That apparently is not stored in the .brl, but rather somewhere else. I did confirm that I can update the category in the UI after the load. Again, Thank you. Jon ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] How to import DRL into Business Rule Assets section?
Hello, We are trying to develop a system based on Drools and want to have a repository based on JBoss and manage it from the Guvnor website. Now, we have a few questions: 1) Can we import DRL files into the Business rules section, so that later we can view/modify them using the graphical interface (text boxes, drop down menus, etc)? This will be very useful for production use. What we tried so far, imports them as text in the Technical rules section which is not user friendly at all. 2) Can we at all import .dslr files ? And where from in the Guvnor GUI ? Thanks a lot, John -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-import-DRL-into-Business-Rule-Assets-section--tp23443796p23443796.html Sent from the drools - user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
