Re: [S-mailx] messages to s-mailx list; date format
SZÉPE Viktor wrote in <20181212003705.Horde.HZm_4N1dy34_rA705nkSCpH@sze\ pe.net>: |Idézem/Quoting Ralph Corderoy : |>> Then problem on my side, i should add an MX entry for |>> lists.sdaoden.eu which points to lists.sdaoden.eu not sdaoden.eu. |>> My knowledge of DNS is a bit rusty. |> |> Mine too. |> |> $ dig +nocomment lists.sdaoden.eu. mx |> ... |> lists.sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN CNAME sdaoden.eu. |> sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN MX 10 sdaoden.eu. |> sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN A 217.144.132.164 |> |> If not MX for foo.com exists then foo.com's port 25 is contacted |> directly, so an MX for foo.com defined as foo.com seems unnecessary. | |Excuse me, I object! |If you do internet mailing in the 21st century you *should* add an MX |record (and use SPF, DKIM and DMARC) | |All the best! Yours, too. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Re: [S-mailx] messages to s-mailx list; date format
Ralph Corderoy wrote in <20181211232526.98e5e21...@orac.inputplus.co.uk>: |> Then problem on my side, i should add an MX entry for |> lists.sdaoden.eu which points to lists.sdaoden.eu not sdaoden.eu. |> My knowledge of DNS is a bit rusty. | |Mine too. | |$ dig +nocomment lists.sdaoden.eu. mx |... |lists.sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN CNAME sdaoden.eu. |sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN MX 10 sdaoden.eu. |sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN A 217.144.132.164 | |If not MX for foo.com exists then foo.com's port 25 is contacted |directly, so an MX for foo.com defined as foo.com seems unnecessary. |If lists.sdaoden.eu should remain as is and not be translated to |sdaoden.eu then I'd suggest making it a A record for the same IP |address. I have removed the mail-exchanger entry from the VM hosters web interface, ISP suite, whatever i thought looking at those forms. Thanks for the suggestion! --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Re: [S-mailx] messages to s-mailx list; date format
Hi SZÉPE, > > If not MX for foo.com exists then foo.com's port 25 is contacted > > directly, so an MX for foo.com defined as foo.com seems unnecessary. > > Excuse me, I object! > If you do internet mailing in the 21st century you *should* add an MX > record (and use SPF, DKIM and DMARC) I assume that's just your subjective preference rather than an RFC, or similar, recommendation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mx_record#History_of_fallback_to_address_record says RFC 5321 still states the fallback. I don't recall that using A instead of MX stops SPF, etc. -- Cheers, Ralph. https://plus.google.com/+RalphCorderoy
Re: [S-mailx] messages to s-mailx list; date format
Idézem/Quoting Ralph Corderoy : Hi Steffen, Then problem on my side, i should add an MX entry for lists.sdaoden.eu which points to lists.sdaoden.eu not sdaoden.eu. My knowledge of DNS is a bit rusty. Mine too. $ dig +nocomment lists.sdaoden.eu. mx ... lists.sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN CNAME sdaoden.eu. sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN MX 10 sdaoden.eu. sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN A 217.144.132.164 If not MX for foo.com exists then foo.com's port 25 is contacted directly, so an MX for foo.com defined as foo.com seems unnecessary. Excuse me, I object! If you do internet mailing in the 21st century you *should* add an MX record (and use SPF, DKIM and DMARC) All the best! SZÉPE Viktor, honlap üzemeltetés / Running your application https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md -- ügyelet/hotline: +36-20-4242498 s...@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület
Re: [S-mailx] messages to s-mailx list; date format
Hi Steffen, > Then problem on my side, i should add an MX entry for > lists.sdaoden.eu which points to lists.sdaoden.eu not sdaoden.eu. > My knowledge of DNS is a bit rusty. Mine too. $ dig +nocomment lists.sdaoden.eu. mx ... lists.sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN CNAME sdaoden.eu. sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN MX 10 sdaoden.eu. sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN A 217.144.132.164 If not MX for foo.com exists then foo.com's port 25 is contacted directly, so an MX for foo.com defined as foo.com seems unnecessary. If lists.sdaoden.eu should remain as is and not be translated to sdaoden.eu then I'd suggest making it a A record for the same IP address. -- Cheers, Ralph. https://plus.google.com/+RalphCorderoy
Re: [S-mailx] messages to s-mailx list; date format
Good evening everybody. russellb...@gmail.com wrote in <201812111936.wbbjav0v021...@randytool.net>: | Quoth Steffen Nurpmeso: ' please use the real list address so |that people can use a simple address check. Please.' | I addressed the last message (and this one) thusly: | | to: s-mailx@lists.sdaoden.eu | |is that incorrect? Oddly /var/log/maillog records: | |Dec 11 11:25:59 randytool sm-mta[21172]: wBBIPq8X021172: to=, delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=relay, pri=30855, \ |relay=smtp.gmail.com [173.194.223.108], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1544552\ |759 m129sm7052317oif.50 - gsmtp) |Dec 11 11:25:59 randytool sendmail[21171]: wBBIPm91021171: to=s-mailx@li\ |sts.sdaoden.eu, ctladdr=russellb...@gmail.com (0/0), delay=00:00:11, \ |xdelay=00:00:09, mailer=relay, pri=30614, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], \ |dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (wBBIPq8X021172 Message accepted for delivery) Oh it is sendmail. |but there's no mention of s-ma...@sdaoden.eu in my original message. |Do you understand this? I run my own sendmail; has it cached an |address? I think sdaoden.eu's SMTP server is doing this. Well, i have not looked since 2016 but likely the MX DNS record which is used to point people to the right A (IPv4) or (IPv6) DNS record(s) of the mail server which handles mail on my domain points to sdaoden.eu. Then problem on my side, i should add an MX entry for lists.sdaoden.eu which points to lists.sdaoden.eu not sdaoden.eu. My knowledge of DNS is a bit rusty. Sorry for the noise. | Quoth Steffen Nurpmeso: ' Unless i am totally mistaken you, |Mr. Bell, have found a bug' | I don't understand you. I concluded that I had found a bug in |my sent-mail archiving system, a non-bug in s-mailx. The POSIX man |page to which Mr Corderoy pointed us space-pads day-of-month. Do not hesitate to send such messages in the future. Anyway. | Quoth Steffen Nurpmeso: 'In the end, who am i?' | It doesn't matter who you are in the end - I'm addressing you |now. I've made small contributions to the code base and appreciate |the people doing the real work. I'll honor your wishes, of course, |because you're so honorable. Ph. Good night. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
