Re: [sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

[William Stein]

For what it is worth, I think Matthias plans to use a time slot just for a
couple weeks then change it.

For Jupyter they have maybe 6 or so weekly or biweekly meetings on special
subtopics and people go to maybe 2 or 3.   Maybe we could consider
something more  like that?   What are some good ideas for topics?

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 2:10 PM Dima Pasechnik  wrote:

> 20:15 UK (i.e. 21:15 Paris) is quite inconvenient slot for me, as that's
> close to bedtime for my son.
>
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 20:45 Matthias Koeppe, 
> wrote:
>
>> I was running late today from another meeting -- glad I still caught you
>> when you were online!
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 12:22:56 PM UTC-7 Eric Gourgoulhon wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Le lundi 3 octobre 2022 à 00:32:52 UTC+2, Matthias Koeppe a écrit :
>>>
 New times:

 Calls for Europe / Africa / Americas:

 Monday noon, 12:15pm San Francisco
 Monday afternoon, 3:15pm New York
 Monday evening, 21:15 Paris
 https://meet.jit.si/VibrantTribesBearEver
 


>>> Could there be some error on the time zone or schedule?  It is 21:20 in
>>> Paris and there is nobody in the room
>>>
>>> Eric.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

[Dima Pasechnik]

20:15 UK (i.e. 21:15 Paris) is quite inconvenient slot for me, as that's
close to bedtime for my son.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 20:45 Matthias Koeppe,  wrote:

> I was running late today from another meeting -- glad I still caught you
> when you were online!
>
> Matthias
>
> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 12:22:56 PM UTC-7 Eric Gourgoulhon wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le lundi 3 octobre 2022 à 00:32:52 UTC+2, Matthias Koeppe a écrit :
>>
>>> New times:
>>>
>>> Calls for Europe / Africa / Americas:
>>>
>>> Monday noon, 12:15pm San Francisco
>>> Monday afternoon, 3:15pm New York
>>> Monday evening, 21:15 Paris
>>> https://meet.jit.si/VibrantTribesBearEver
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>> Could there be some error on the time zone or schedule?  It is 21:20 in
>> Paris and there is nobody in the room
>>
>> Eric.
>>
>>
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[sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

[Matthias Koeppe]

I was running late today from another meeting -- glad I still caught you 
when you were online!

Matthias

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 12:22:56 PM UTC-7 Eric Gourgoulhon wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Le lundi 3 octobre 2022 à 00:32:52 UTC+2, Matthias Koeppe a écrit :
>
>> New times:
>>
>> Calls for Europe / Africa / Americas:
>>
>> Monday noon, 12:15pm San Francisco
>> Monday afternoon, 3:15pm New York
>> Monday evening, 21:15 Paris
>> https://meet.jit.si/VibrantTribesBearEver 
>> 
>>
>>
> Could there be some error on the time zone or schedule?  It is 21:20 in 
> Paris and there is nobody in the room
>
> Eric. 
>  
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

[Eric Gourgoulhon]

Hi,

Le lundi 3 octobre 2022 à 00:32:52 UTC+2, Matthias Koeppe a écrit :

> New times:
>
> Calls for Europe / Africa / Americas:
>
> Monday noon, 12:15pm San Francisco
> Monday afternoon, 3:15pm New York
> Monday evening, 21:15 Paris
> https://meet.jit.si/VibrantTribesBearEver 
> 
>
>
Could there be some error on the time zone or schedule?  It is 21:20 in 
Paris and there is nobody in the room

Eric. 
 

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: move Sage development to Github

[Simon Brandhorst]

+1 GitHub

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 6:51:39 PM UTC+2 kesha...@gmail.com wrote:

> +1 for GitHub (hi folks )
>
> -Keshav
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 10:23:36 AM UTC-7 David Roe wrote:
>
>> Dear Sage developers,
>> Following extensive discussion, both recently 
>>  
>> (prompted 
>> by issues upgrading the trac server) and over 
>>  the 
>>  
>> last 
>>  
>> decade 
>> , 
>> we are calling a vote on switching Sage development from Trac 
>>  to Github .  We've 
>> created a summary of the pros and cons of each system 
>> , a 
>> description 
>> of the development model to be used on github 
>> , 
>> and a trac ticket  for 
>> coordinating work on the transition.  More work will need to be done to 
>> carry out the actual transition once voting is complete.
>>
>> The voting will last until noon Eastern time (16:00 UTC) on Wednesday, 
>> October 5.  Please use this thread only for sending votes, to make it 
>> easier to count them afterward; there is a parallel thread where you can 
>> make arguments in favor of either system.
>>
>> Finally, I will close with a plea to be involved in this vote and 
>> discussion even if you are not a core Sage developer.  By definition, core 
>> Sage developers have become comfortable with trac, and I think that one of 
>> the major arguments in favor of github is that it will help bring in new 
>> contributors who are not familiar with Sage's development workfow 
>> .  Anyone who has 
>> ever contributed to the Sage code base or who maintains a Sage user package 
>> is welcome to vote.
>> David
>>
>

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[sage-devel] Re: DISCUSS: move Sage development to Github

[Marc Mezzarobba]

Nils Bruin wrote:
> Speaking of backups ... do we backup the sage-devel, sage-support news
> groups?

They are on gmane, and presumably some sage developers have more or less
complete archives on their own computers...

> In fact, they are sometimes referred to on trac, via
> super-opaque URLs.

I suppose the "right" way to refer to ML posts would be by Message-Id,
but nobody does that, and many people apparently do not understand such
references or have no convenient tools to follow them... (I once had
someone complain when I used a Message-Id to refer to sage-devel on
trac.)

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[sage-devel] Re: DISCUSS: move Sage development to Github

[kcrisman]

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 2:16:00 PM UTC-4 Nils Bruin wrote:

> Speaking of backups ... do we backup the sage-devel, sage-support news 
> groups? It contains a lot of stuff that loses relevance with time, but 
> every now and again there are discussions that contain important bits of 
> information. In fact, they are sometimes referred to on trac, via 
> super-opaque URLs. So I suspect google groups going down (which is probably 
> a less unlikely event than github ending) would actually damage those links 
> irretrievably.
>

I guess they are "backed up" by  other news aggregators?  Sometimes those 
are the hits that come up first in Google search, ironically. 
 E.g. https://www.mail-archive.com/sage-devel@googlegroups.com/msg105313.html

Which also points out that we already rely on proprietary software for 
something fairly vital ... not judging that either way, but it's worth 
mentioning.


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