[sage-devel] Re: Sage wiki down for now
2009/1/8 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com: Hi, the Sage wiki is down for now again since it has been acting up again by consuming up to 23 GB RAM, i.e. pushing itself up to 16 GB into swap. I am not sure what happens, but once it happens all the sudden it consumes about 0.1% of the available RAM *per* second. I have pinged #moinmoin and hopefully in the morning we will get some feedback what is up. Sorry for the downtime, but given the choice between sagemath.org DOSed by the wiki or no wiki the choice was clear. Cheers, Michael Perhaps it's time to upgrade to something that scales better than moinmoin? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Sage wiki down for now
2009/1/8 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com: On Jan 8, 9:43 am, Conrad Meyer konrad.me...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Hi, Perhaps it's time to upgrade to something that scales better than moinmoin? Well, this is not a scalability issue, but a bug. And there is more at play here than scalability, i.e. mediawiki is way more work to set up and keep up to date security wise. Just in case: What do you have in mind? Cheers, Michael All the same, MoinMoin scales *horribly*. I didn't have a specific replacement in mind, though over at Fedora we recently transitioned from MoinMoin to Mediawiki specifically because MoinMoin was becoming too slow. If you can get MoinMoin to use a database it might not be so bad but last I heard it only supports flat files for storage. Regards, -- Conrad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Sage wiki down for now
2009/1/8 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com: On Jan 8, 10:16 am, Conrad Meyer konrad.me...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't have a specific replacement in mind, though over at Fedora we recently transitioned from MoinMoin to Mediawiki specifically because MoinMoin was becoming too slow. If you can get MoinMoin to use a database it might not be so bad but last I heard it only supports flat files for storage. Sure, but the fact that moinmoin just works without the need for any configuration of a sql database is a killer feature since it might not be a problem for some people on this list to set up mysql and so on properly, but many, many Sage users will not even know what a sql db is and not even care enough to attempt to find out what it is. They just want something that works and so far for 100% of the Sage users it seems that moinmoin scales well enough :). One example: It has emerged from the AMS 2009 meeting that the installation of the VMWare player is a hurdle many people will not get over, so that is a barrier for the adoption of Sage. While you and me are probably snickering a little since this is trivial most people want to use software, not learn how to install it and so on. Michael Ah, I meant the wiki on the site, not the wiki shipped with Sage. I wasn't aware Sage shipped a wiki -- if it does, MoinMoin certainly makes sense for that. -- Conrad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
