[sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-26 Thread Volker Braun
I opened a ticket for the underlying issue:

==
Trac #18512: Move notebook() into Sage

Right now the `notebook()` function is a lazy import from sagenb. Hence any
access (like looking at the docstring) imports sagenb which changes the
display backend which causes various problems (see
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/3uaY6xHLMqQ/Zyn67xJ0LaMJ). It 
also
doesn't fit into a world where there is more than one notebook. And its
current behavior of turning the current Sage session into a notebook server
can't work with the IPython notebook or SMC.

First, we should definitely move `notebook` into the Sage library to move it
away from sagenb.

The more general question is what to do with it then. Options are
* Just let it launch SageNB, any other notebook needs to be launched via 
`sage
--notebook=...` on the commandline
* Deprecate `notebook()` altogether
* Let `notebook()` always spawn an independent process, and add an argument 
to
select which one

Status: new Component: notebook
Last modified: 2015-05-26 07:04:55  Created: 2015-05-26 07:04:55 UTC
Report upstream: N/A
Authors:
Reviewers:
Branch:
Keywords:
Dependencies:
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URL: http://trac.sagemath.org/18512
==



On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:

 Dear all,

 My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message 
 when I issue:
 sage: vars()

 Same is true for at least globals().
 Any clue on what's going on?

 Best,
 JP


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[sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Volker Braun
There were some changes to how globals() are handled. Did you run make, 
can you show us the output, debugger, ...



On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:

 Dear all,

 My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message 
 when I issue:
 sage: vars()

 Same is true for at least globals().
 Any clue on what's going on?

 Best,
 JP


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[sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread leif
Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
 My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message
 when I issue:
 sage: vars()

Works for me:

...
 'zeta': zeta,
 'zeta__exact': function zeta__exact at 0x7fa3b8c84b90,
 'zeta_symmetric': function zeta_symmetric at 0x7fa3bac2f9b0,
 'zeta_zeros': function zeta_zeros at 0x7fa273519aa0,
 'zetaderiv': zetaderiv}
---
TypeError Traceback (most recent call last)
ipython-input-1-ef3ed5b882d8 in module()
 1 vars()

/data/Sage/release/stable/sage-6.6-gcc-4.9.2-default/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
in __call__(self, result)
230 self.start_displayhook()
231 self.write_output_prompt()
-- 232 format_dict, md_dict = self.compute_format_data(result)
233 self.update_user_ns(result)
234 self.fill_exec_result(result)

TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
sage:

(Same in 4.7.beta4, FWIW.  globals() doesn't throw.)


 Same is true for at least globals().
 Any clue on what's going on?

No. :-)


-leif


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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread John Cremona
I also have a 6.6 install which quites badly when I give (as the first
command) vars().  The output is hunderds of lines long and ends with

TypeError Traceback (most recent call last)
ipython-input-1-ef3ed5b882d8 in module()
 1 vars()

/usr/local/sage/sage-2/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
in __call__
(self, result)
230 self.start_displayhook()
231 self.write_output_prompt()
-- 232 format_dict, md_dict = self.compute_format_data(result)
233 self.update_user_ns(result)
234 self.fill_exec_result(result)

TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable



On 6 May 2015 at 11:26, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 There were some changes to how globals() are handled. Did you run make,
 can you show us the output, debugger, ...



 On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:

 Dear all,

 My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message
 when I issue:
 sage: vars()

 Same is true for at least globals().
 Any clue on what's going on?

 Best,
 JP

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread John Cremona
On 6 May 2015 at 12:49, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 vars() works as documented.

 Its a good test whether every object that we define can actually print

That sounds like a good thing, but I still do not understand why an
error is raised.

John

 itself. That caughs up plenty of deprecation warnings and fails for

 sage: notebook
 sagenb.notebook.notebook_object.NotebookObject instance at 0x7fbf8537e758
 ---
 TypeError Traceback (most recent call last)
 ipython-input-1-608e12875613 in module()
  1 notebook

 /mnt/disk/home/release/Sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
 in __call__(self, result)
 230 self.start_displayhook()
 231 self.write_output_prompt()
 -- 232 format_dict, md_dict = self.compute_format_data(result)
 233 self.update_user_ns(result)
 234 self.fill_exec_result(result)

 TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable



 On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+2, John Cremona wrote:

 I also have a 6.6 install which quites badly when I give (as the first
 command) vars().  The output is hunderds of lines long and ends with

 TypeError Traceback (most recent call
 last)
 ipython-input-1-ef3ed5b882d8 in module()
  1 vars()


 /usr/local/sage/sage-2/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
 in __call__
 (self, result)
 230 self.start_displayhook()
 231 self.write_output_prompt()
 -- 232 format_dict, md_dict =
 self.compute_format_data(result)
 233 self.update_user_ns(result)
 234 self.fill_exec_result(result)

 TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable



 On 6 May 2015 at 11:26, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com wrote:
  There were some changes to how globals() are handled. Did you run
  make,
  can you show us the output, debugger, ...
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message
  when I issue:
  sage: vars()
 
  Same is true for at least globals().
  Any clue on what's going on?
 
  Best,
  JP
 
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Volker Braun
Technically its because 
* notebook is a lazy import, 
* printing notebook causes sagenb to be imported
* which changes the displayhook to the SageNB displayhook which causes 
various problems.



On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:58:45 PM UTC+2, John Cremona wrote:

 On 6 May 2015 at 12:49, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  vars() works as documented. 
  
  Its a good test whether every object that we define can actually print 

 That sounds like a good thing, but I still do not understand why an 
 error is raised. 

 John 

  itself. That caughs up plenty of deprecation warnings and fails for 
  
  sage: notebook 
  sagenb.notebook.notebook_object.NotebookObject instance at 
 0x7fbf8537e758 
  
 --- 
  TypeError Traceback (most recent call 
 last) 
  ipython-input-1-608e12875613 in module() 
   1 notebook 
  
  
 /mnt/disk/home/release/Sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
  

  in __call__(self, result) 
  230 self.start_displayhook() 
  231 self.write_output_prompt() 
  -- 232 format_dict, md_dict = 
 self.compute_format_data(result) 
  233 self.update_user_ns(result) 
  234 self.fill_exec_result(result) 
  
  TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable 
  
  
  
  On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+2, John Cremona wrote: 
  
  I also have a 6.6 install which quites badly when I give (as the first 
  command) vars().  The output is hunderds of lines long and ends with 
  
  TypeError Traceback (most recent call 
  last) 
  ipython-input-1-ef3ed5b882d8 in module() 
   1 vars() 
  
  
  
 /usr/local/sage/sage-2/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
  

  in __call__ 
  (self, result) 
  230 self.start_displayhook() 
  231 self.write_output_prompt() 
  -- 232 format_dict, md_dict = 
  self.compute_format_data(result) 
  233 self.update_user_ns(result) 
  234 self.fill_exec_result(result) 
  
  TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable 
  
  
  
  On 6 May 2015 at 11:26, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com wrote: 
   There were some changes to how globals() are handled. Did you run 
   make, 
   can you show us the output, debugger, ... 
   
   
   
   On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori 
 wrote: 
   
   Dear all, 
   
   My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning 
 message 
   when I issue: 
   sage: vars() 
   
   Same is true for at least globals(). 
   Any clue on what's going on? 
   
   Best, 
   JP 
   
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Volker Braun
vars() works as documented.

Its a good test whether every object that we define can actually print 
itself. That caughs up plenty of deprecation warnings and fails for 

sage: notebook
sagenb.notebook.notebook_object.NotebookObject instance at 0x7fbf8537e758
---
TypeError Traceback (most recent call last)
ipython-input-1-608e12875613 in module()
 1 notebook

/mnt/disk/home/release/Sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
 
in __call__(self, result)
230 self.start_displayhook()
231 self.write_output_prompt()
-- 232 format_dict, md_dict = self.compute_format_data(result)
233 self.update_user_ns(result)
234 self.fill_exec_result(result)

TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable



On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:16:49 PM UTC+2, John Cremona wrote:

 I also have a 6.6 install which quites badly when I give (as the first 
 command) vars().  The output is hunderds of lines long and ends with 

 TypeError Traceback (most recent call 
 last) 
 ipython-input-1-ef3ed5b882d8 in module() 
  1 vars() 

 /usr/local/sage/sage-2/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/IPython/core/displayhook.pyc
  

 in __call__ 
 (self, result) 
 230 self.start_displayhook() 
 231 self.write_output_prompt() 
 -- 232 format_dict, md_dict = 
 self.compute_format_data(result) 
 233 self.update_user_ns(result) 
 234 self.fill_exec_result(result) 

 TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable 



 On 6 May 2015 at 11:26, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  There were some changes to how globals() are handled. Did you run 
 make, 
  can you show us the output, debugger, ... 
  
  
  
  On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: 
  
  Dear all, 
  
  My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message 
  when I issue: 
  sage: vars() 
  
  Same is true for at least globals(). 
  Any clue on what's going on? 
  
  Best, 
  JP 
  
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I unpacked the sage 6.6 tarball and ran make.

I'll have some trouble posting the exact output here as the machine is not 
connected to the network, but basically:
* I'm on an amd64 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.
* I launch: sage
* I type at Sage's prompt: vars()
* I get:

/blablabla/pretty_print.py:147: DepreciationWarning: this is being removed 
from the global namespace. Use crystals.tab instead
See http://trac.sagemath.org/15882 for details.
  ok = representation(obj, self, cycle)

* I'm back at my shell.
I'll have to build gdb to get further info.

With 6.2 and 6.3 and 6.5, it works but before everything gets printed I 
see lots of this warning with slight variations in the line causing it.
With 6.1.1 no warning, I guess 15882 was merged later.

Anyway, it was a false alarm.
I deleted my .sage directory and now it works: I get an error as others do.

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2015-05-06 14:09, Volker Braun wrote:

Technically its because
* notebook is a lazy import,
* printing notebook causes sagenb to be imported
* which changes the displayhook to the SageNB displayhook which causes
various problems.
I guess that's a bug. Simply *importing* sagenb should not change the 
displayhook.


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