[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
here is the ticket adding CSDP as an experimental package: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14505 On Thursday, 11 April 2013 11:52:30 UTC+8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Dear all, we'd like to add CSDP, (a fast semidefinite programming solver, one of the very best around), as an optional package. https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ It is a C library+headers, and I've written almost all what is needed (besides spkg-install etc) to have it seamlessly installable (using autotools) into Sage, here: https://github.com/dimpase/csdp One major customer of CSDP in Sage is Flagmatic, see http://flagmatic.org/ We are also working on a Cython interface to CSDP, and hope to have it ready soon. CSDP itself has a GPL-incompatible license imposed by the employer of the developer of CSDP, so it itself cannot become standard. I understand that we need to vote on this. (Needless to say I'm committed to support CSDP as an optional package of Sage for the coming N years). Please vote on the following options: 1) Yes to CSDP becoming an optional package 2) no to 1), but yes to CSDP becoming an experimental package. 3) no, no, just go away. Thanks, Dima -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
here is the ticket adding CSDP as an experimental package: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14505 Wow. Cool ! Why do you prefer to create 2 tickets for that ? It feels a bit weird to review an interface between Sage and a spkg which is not included, and it feels weird to add to Sage a spkg which is not interfaced with it. Though if the two tickets depend on each other, then no problem ;-) Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On Monday, 29 April 2013 21:09:44 UTC+8, Nathann Cohen wrote: here is the ticket adding CSDP as an experimental package: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14505 Wow. Cool ! Why do you prefer to create 2 tickets for that ? It feels a bit weird to review an interface between Sage and a spkg which is not included, and it feels weird to add to Sage a spkg which is not interfaced with it. e.g. Flagmatic only needs csdp executable installed. So, in a way, it already makes sense without anything extra. Though if the two tickets depend on each other, then no problem ;-) Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
e.g. Flagmatic only needs csdp executable installed. So, in a way, it already makes sense without anything extra. Oh. I see ! Haveyou already created a ticket for the interface ? Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On Monday, 29 April 2013 22:26:37 UTC+8, Nathann Cohen wrote: e.g. Flagmatic only needs csdp executable installed. So, in a way, it already makes sense without anything extra. Oh. I see ! Haveyou already created a ticket for the interface ? not yet, it's in the works still. Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
not yet, it's in the works still. Ok, cool ! Send me a line when you will begin to work on that. And to Jernej too, whom I added to this email. He may be part of GSOC this summer, and may want to work on that too. Could you send an email to sage-devel to ask them how the hell we are supposed to libtoolize things without modifying upstream ? I don't know either, but I still have scars from the first spkg I put in Sage and in which I modified upstream : Cliquer :-P Admittedly it was not a very nice piece of work, though. I mean, what I did with it of course ! :-D Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On 2013-04-29, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: not yet, it's in the works still. Ok, cool ! Send me a line when you will begin to work on that. And to Jernej too, whom I added to this email. He may be part of GSOC this summer, and may want to work on that too. Could you send an email to sage-devel to ask them how the hell we are supposed to libtoolize things without modifying upstream ? I don't know either, but I still have scars from the first spkg I put in Sage and in which I modified upstream : Cliquer :-P Admittedly it was not a very nice piece of work, though. I mean, what I did with it of course ! :-D In this case all my changes are perfectly traceable on github. I don't see a point in packaging these in one big patch. As we hopefully are moving towards a saner sources management model, big patches should be dying away, IMHO... Dima Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: not yet, it's in the works still. Ok, cool ! Send me a line when you will begin to work on that. And to Jernej too, whom I added to this email. He may be part of GSOC this summer, and may want to work on that too. The code is here: https://github.com/mghasemi/pycsdp (written by our new postdoc) it still lacks docstrings, etc etc. Dima -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
The code is here: https://github.com/mghasemi/pycsdp (written by our new postdoc) it still lacks docstrings, etc etc. O_o But how do you get this into Sage ? I don't get how you work... Probably further on the GIT road than I can understand right now :-P Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On 2013-04-29, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: The code is here: https://github.com/mghasemi/pycsdp (written by our new postdoc) it still lacks docstrings, etc etc. O_o But how do you get this into Sage ? I don't get how you work... I'm telling him for a month already to get a Sage trac account, you know... Well, I hope it will happen, and I don't have to scream... :) Anyhow, that's the most unpleasant part of the inteface done, creating linked with pointers C structs to be passed to the solver. Probably further on the GIT road than I can understand right now :-P no, it's nothing to do with git per se. Dima Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:52:30 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Dear all, we'd like to add CSDP, (a fast semidefinite programming solver, one of the very best around), as an optional package. https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ I assume this works on Linux as well - there were some remarks in the flagmatic user guide that indicated not, but maybe that wasn't because of CSDP. I guess I recall that optional packages should work on all (most?) platforms we support Sage on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
Le 29/04/2013 19:23, kcrisman a écrit : On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:52:30 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Dear all, we'd like to add CSDP, (a fast semidefinite programming solver, one of the very best around), as an optional package. https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ A very good ide! BUT: have you seen that, on https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ the first links you can see are broken ? I assume this works on Linux as well - there were some remarks in the flagmatic user guide that indicated not, but maybe that wasn't because of CSDP. I guess I recall that optional packages should work on all (most?) platforms we support Sage on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: tdumont.vcf
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On 2013-04-29, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: --=_Part_5928_32884296.1367256180205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:52:30 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Dear all, we'd like to add CSDP, (a fast semidefinite programming solver, one of the very best around), as an optional package. https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ I assume this works on Linux as well - there were some remarks in the flagmatic user guide that indicated not, but maybe that wasn't because of CSDP. I guess I recall that optional packages should work on all (most?) platforms we support Sage on. of course my spkg works on Linux, and even on cygwin... ;) Didn't check Solaris yet. Flagmatic has been fixed since, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On 2013-04-29, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --060206000403010900080606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 29/04/2013 19:23, kcrisman a =E9crit : On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:52:30 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Dear all, we'd like to add CSDP, (a fast semidefinite programming solver, one of the very best around), as an optional package. https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp= / A very good ide! BUT: have you seen that, on=20 https://projects.coin-or.org/Csdp/ the first links you can see are broken ? ...Last modified 3 years ago Well, the CSDP code works, and is very popular. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On 2013-04-11, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: --=_Part_629_6688666.1365672308379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 I had never heard of Flagmatic before. Looks GREAT :-D it implements a range of recent ideas due to Razborov et al, which produced a lot of progress in extremal (hyper)graph theory recently. Dima Nathann On Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:56:45 AM UTC+2, Snark wrote: Le 11/04/2013 06:32, Nils Bruin a =EF=BF=BDcrit :=20 On Apr 10, 8:52 pm, Dima Pasechnikdimp...@gmail.com wrote:=20 2) yes to CSDP becoming an experimental package.=20 =20 Doing that requires no different work from preparing it to be an=20 optional package, so why not do that first? Once that's done I would=20 expect it'll be pretty smooth sailing into optional status.=20 +1=20 Snark on #sagemath=20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
I had never heard of Flagmatic before. Looks GREAT :-D it implements a range of recent ideas due to Razborov et al, which produced a lot of progress in extremal (hyper)graph theory recently. I had no idea it had evolved into an open source project already :-) Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
+1 I had never heard of Flagmatic before. Looks GREAT :-D Nathann On Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:56:45 AM UTC+2, Snark wrote: Le 11/04/2013 06:32, Nils Bruin a �crit : On Apr 10, 8:52 pm, Dima Pasechnikdimp...@gmail.com wrote: 2) yes to CSDP becoming an experimental package. Doing that requires no different work from preparing it to be an optional package, so why not do that first? Once that's done I would expect it'll be pretty smooth sailing into optional status. +1 Snark on #sagemath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
On Apr 10, 8:52 pm, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: 2) yes to CSDP becoming an experimental package. Doing that requires no different work from preparing it to be an optional package, so why not do that first? Once that's done I would expect it'll be pretty smooth sailing into optional status. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: new optional (or experimental) package CSDP?
Le 11/04/2013 06:32, Nils Bruin a écrit : On Apr 10, 8:52 pm, Dima Pasechnikdimp...@gmail.com wrote: 2) yes to CSDP becoming an experimental package. Doing that requires no different work from preparing it to be an optional package, so why not do that first? Once that's done I would expect it'll be pretty smooth sailing into optional status. +1 Snark on #sagemath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
