Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-06 Thread Clemens Heuberger
Am 2015-05-04 um 12:46 schrieb Volker Braun:
 It didn't work, there is no deprecation period for removing bugs.

I see. Sorry, that was not clear to me, neither here nor on the ticket.

Regards, CH


 
 
 On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 11:14:43 AM UTC+2, Clemens Heuberger wrote:
 
 On 2015-05-04 10:55, Volker Braun wrote:
  We intentionally deleted the pyopenssl spkg. If it can be found on a
 mirror then
  that is only because it hasn't been updated.
 
  This is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18261
 http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18261
 
 I am not too happy that the instructions in the documentation of the 
 _current_
 _stable_ release lead to a link to a no longer existing file.
 
 Shouldn't there be some analogy to our deprecation policy? Or, 
 alternatively, a
 new stable release fixing the documentation issue?
 
 What is the policy for removing spkgs, also in relation to 
 reproduceability of
 old research? I can probably compile old sage versions if needed for some 
 old
 non-polished code, but if the corresponding parts of 
 sage-as-a-distribution are
 no longer available? (Granted, pyopenssl is probably not about research, 
 just
 about infrastructure).e
 
 Regards, CH
 
 


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[sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-04 Thread Volker Braun
We intentionally deleted the pyopenssl spkg. If it can be found on a mirror 
then that is only because it hasn't been updated.

This is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18261

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 4:04:03 AM UTC+2, leif wrote:

 Clemens Heuberger wrote: 
  I tried to install pyopenssl in order to run sagenb in sage 6.6 with 
  secure=True. It fails with Error 404, see below. 
  
  Regards, 
  
  CH 
  
  I get: 
  $ ./sage -i pyopenssl 
  Attempting to download package pyopenssl 
  Checking online list of optional packages. 
  [.] 
  Found pyopenssl-0.13.p0 
  Trying to download 
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 
   
  IOError: [Errno 404] Not Found: 
  '//www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg' 
  Error: failed to download package pyopenssl-0.13.p0 
  
  $ LANG=C wget 
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 
  --2015-05-03 16:02:09-- 
  http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 
  Resolving www.sagemath.org (www.sagemath.org)... 128.208.178.250 
  Connecting to www.sagemath.org (www.sagemath.org)|128.208.178.250|:80... 
 connected. 
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 
  2015-05-03 16:02:10 ERROR 404: Not Found. 

 Unfortunately setting SAGE_SERVER is borked as well (because the mirrors 
 still have 'spkg/', not 'packages/', which the scripts simply ignore), 
 but you could use a mirror manually: 


   wget 

 http://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/sagemath/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 

   ./sage -i pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg   # Note the extension 



 -leif 




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Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-04 Thread Clemens Heuberger
On 2015-05-04 10:55, Volker Braun wrote:
 We intentionally deleted the pyopenssl spkg. If it can be found on a mirror 
 then
 that is only because it hasn't been updated.
 
 This is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18261

I am not too happy that the instructions in the documentation of the _current_
_stable_ release lead to a link to a no longer existing file.

Shouldn't there be some analogy to our deprecation policy? Or, alternatively, a
new stable release fixing the documentation issue?

What is the policy for removing spkgs, also in relation to reproduceability of
old research? I can probably compile old sage versions if needed for some old
non-polished code, but if the corresponding parts of sage-as-a-distribution are
no longer available? (Granted, pyopenssl is probably not about research, just
about infrastructure).e

Regards, CH


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Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-04 Thread Volker Braun
It didn't work, there is no deprecation period for removing bugs.


On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 11:14:43 AM UTC+2, Clemens Heuberger wrote:

 On 2015-05-04 10:55, Volker Braun wrote: 
  We intentionally deleted the pyopenssl spkg. If it can be found on a 
 mirror then 
  that is only because it hasn't been updated. 
  
  This is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18261 

 I am not too happy that the instructions in the documentation of the 
 _current_ 
 _stable_ release lead to a link to a no longer existing file. 

 Shouldn't there be some analogy to our deprecation policy? Or, 
 alternatively, a 
 new stable release fixing the documentation issue? 

 What is the policy for removing spkgs, also in relation to 
 reproduceability of 
 old research? I can probably compile old sage versions if needed for some 
 old 
 non-polished code, but if the corresponding parts of 
 sage-as-a-distribution are 
 no longer available? (Granted, pyopenssl is probably not about research, 
 just 
 about infrastructure).e 

 Regards, CH 




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[sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-03 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote:
 Use sage -pip install pyopenssl

That's not what currently 'make ssl' does, nor what README.txt says:

10. OPTIONAL: Read this if you are intending to run a Sage notebook
server for multiple users. For security (i.e., to run
notebook(secure=True)) you want to access the server using the
HTTPS protocol. First, install OpenSSL and the OpenSSL development
headers on your system if they are not already installed. Then
install pyOpenSSL by building Sage and then typing

./sage -i pyopenssl

Note that this command requires internet access.  Alternatively,
make ssl builds Sage and installs pyOpenSSL.


(Sage 6.7.beta3)

/Somebody/^TM should open a ticket...


-leif

 On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 4:03:01 PM UTC+2, Clemens Heuberger wrote:
 
 I tried to install pyopenssl in order to run sagenb in sage 6.6 with
 secure=True. It fails with Error 404, see below.
 
 Regards,
 
 CH
 
 I get:
 $ ./sage -i pyopenssl
 Attempting to download package pyopenssl
  Checking online list of optional packages.
 [.]
  Found pyopenssl-0.13.p0
  Trying to download
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 ...
 IOError: [Errno 404] Not Found:
 '//www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg'
 Error: failed to download package pyopenssl-0.13.p0
 
 $ LANG=C wget
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 --2015-05-03
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg--2015-05-03
 16:02:09--
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 Resolving www.sagemath.org http://www.sagemath.org
 (www.sagemath.org http://www.sagemath.org)... 128.208.178.250
 Connecting to www.sagemath.org http://www.sagemath.org
 (www.sagemath.org http://www.sagemath.org)|128.208.178.250|:80...
 connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
 2015-05-03 16:02:10 ERROR 404: Not Found.


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[sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-03 Thread leif
Clemens Heuberger wrote:
 I tried to install pyopenssl in order to run sagenb in sage 6.6 with
 secure=True. It fails with Error 404, see below.
 
 Regards,
 
 CH
 
 I get:
 $ ./sage -i pyopenssl
 Attempting to download package pyopenssl
 Checking online list of optional packages.
 [.]
 Found pyopenssl-0.13.p0
 Trying to download 
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 
 IOError: [Errno 404] Not Found:
 '//www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg'
 Error: failed to download package pyopenssl-0.13.p0
 
 $ LANG=C wget http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 --2015-05-03 16:02:09--
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg
 Resolving www.sagemath.org (www.sagemath.org)... 128.208.178.250
 Connecting to www.sagemath.org (www.sagemath.org)|128.208.178.250|:80... 
 connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
 2015-05-03 16:02:10 ERROR 404: Not Found.

Unfortunately setting SAGE_SERVER is borked as well (because the mirrors
still have 'spkg/', not 'packages/', which the scripts simply ignore),
but you could use a mirror manually:


  wget
http://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/sagemath/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg

  ./sage -i pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg   # Note the extension



-leif


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[sage-devel] Re: sage 6.6 pyopenssl

2015-05-03 Thread Volker Braun
Use sage -pip install pyopenssl

On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 4:03:01 PM UTC+2, Clemens Heuberger wrote:

 I tried to install pyopenssl in order to run sagenb in sage 6.6 with 
 secure=True. It fails with Error 404, see below. 

 Regards, 

 CH 

 I get: 
 $ ./sage -i pyopenssl 
 Attempting to download package pyopenssl 
  Checking online list of optional packages. 
 [.] 
  Found pyopenssl-0.13.p0 
  Trying to download 
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 
 ... 
 IOError: [Errno 404] Not Found: 
 '//www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg' 
 Error: failed to download package pyopenssl-0.13.p0 

 $ LANG=C wget http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 

 --2015-05-03 
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg--2015-05-03 
 16:02:09-- 
 http://www.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/pyopenssl-0.13.p0.spkg 
 Resolving www.sagemath.org (www.sagemath.org)... 128.208.178.250 
 Connecting to www.sagemath.org (www.sagemath.org)|128.208.178.250|:80... 
 connected. 
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 
 2015-05-03 16:02:10 ERROR 404: Not Found. 


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