[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2 released

2018-05-07 Thread Enrique Artal
I tried it.. I failed the first time because I did not used ./configure and 
gcc package was not used. With ./configure, gcc was loaded, python2 is OK 
but python3 still fails because of crypt module.

El lunes, 7 de mayo de 2018, 16:41:43 (UTC+2), John H Palmieri escribió:
>
> You could try setting the environment variable SAGE_INSTALL_GCC=yes to 
> force Sage to build its own version of gcc. 
>
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 6:56:53 AM UTC-7, Enrique Artal wrote:
>>
>> I have tried, but there are too many dependences. I will wait for 
>> binaries. I tried to compile on two computers; In one of them python3 was 
>> compiled but python2 failed on both. thanks for the tip, anyway.
>>
>> El lunes, 7 de mayo de 2018, 10:37:56 (UTC+2), Dima Pasechnik escribió:
>>>
>>> You're using gcc-8.0.1 - this is not (yet) supported - perhaps it's 
>>> known to Python people this this does not work...
>>> Can you install gcc-7 and make it the default compiler?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:21:53 PM UTC+1, Enrique Artal wrote:

 I was unable to compile it in Fedora 28. I attach the log giles.

 El domingo, 6 de mayo de 2018, 10:56:04 (UTC+2), Volker Braun escribió:
>
> The "master" git branch has been updated to Sage-8.1. As always, you 
> can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git branch. 
> Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>
> There was no change over 8.2.rc4
>


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Re: [sage-release] Release process

2018-05-07 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
2018-05-07 17:08 GMT+02:00 Erik Bray:
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Jeroen Demeyer:
> > (starting a new thread for the discussion about the current very slow
pace
> > of merging tickets)
> >
> > On 2018-05-07 16:28, Erik Bray wrote:
> >>
> >> If it's not clear, shall I write up some more formal documentation for
> >> my proposed process?
> >
> >
> > To be honest, I think it's not very meaningful to do that without
consulting
> > the release manager. I mean, you can write up all the documentation
that you
> > want; in the end, it's the release manager who decides what happens.
>
> Sure, that goes without saying.  That doesn't mean it isn't a good
> idea to document an idea more carefully for the review of all those
> involved.  Such documentation would only be an initial draft.
> Unfortunately Sage development does not have a PEP-like process in any
> formal sense either.  Maybe it should.

There once was a list of Sage enhancement proposals or "SEP"s

https://wiki.sagemath.org/devel/SEP

Most of the pages it links to have been archived, you need to append

?action=info

to their urls to get the history of each and see what they were about.

Samuel

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Re: [sage-release] Release process

2018-05-07 Thread Erik Bray
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Jeroen Demeyer  wrote:
> (starting a new thread for the discussion about the current very slow pace
> of merging tickets)
>
> On 2018-05-07 16:28, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>> If it's not clear, shall I write up some more formal documentation for
>> my proposed process?
>
>
> To be honest, I think it's not very meaningful to do that without consulting
> the release manager. I mean, you can write up all the documentation that you
> want; in the end, it's the release manager who decides what happens.

Sure, that goes without saying.  That doesn't mean it isn't a good
idea to document an idea more carefully for the review of all those
involved.  Such documentation would only be an initial draft.
Unfortunately Sage development does not have a PEP-like process in any
formal sense either.  Maybe it should.

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[sage-release] Release process

2018-05-07 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
(starting a new thread for the discussion about the current very slow 
pace of merging tickets)


On 2018-05-07 16:28, Erik Bray wrote:

If it's not clear, shall I write up some more formal documentation for
my proposed process?


To be honest, I think it's not very meaningful to do that without 
consulting the release manager. I mean, you can write up all the 
documentation that you want; in the end, it's the release manager who 
decides what happens.


I do agree that there is a problem though. We are close to 200 
positively reviewed tickets just sitting there. And my fear of conflicts 
is certainly holding me back to do further Sage development for the 
moment (luckily, I had PEP 575 and the Cernay workshop to keep myself busy).


So Volker, what's your opinion on this?

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[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2 released

2018-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
You could try setting the environment variable SAGE_INSTALL_GCC=yes to 
force Sage to build its own version of gcc. 


On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 6:56:53 AM UTC-7, Enrique Artal wrote:
>
> I have tried, but there are too many dependences. I will wait for 
> binaries. I tried to compile on two computers; In one of them python3 was 
> compiled but python2 failed on both. thanks for the tip, anyway.
>
> El lunes, 7 de mayo de 2018, 10:37:56 (UTC+2), Dima Pasechnik escribió:
>>
>> You're using gcc-8.0.1 - this is not (yet) supported - perhaps it's known 
>> to Python people this this does not work...
>> Can you install gcc-7 and make it the default compiler?
>>
>> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:21:53 PM UTC+1, Enrique Artal wrote:
>>>
>>> I was unable to compile it in Fedora 28. I attach the log giles.
>>>
>>> El domingo, 6 de mayo de 2018, 10:56:04 (UTC+2), Volker Braun escribió:

 The "master" git branch has been updated to Sage-8.1. As always, you 
 can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git branch. 
 Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
 http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html

 There was no change over 8.2.rc4

>>>

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Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2.rc4 released

2018-05-07 Thread Erik Bray
On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 10:21 PM,   wrote:
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:11:52 AM UTC-7, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>>
>> Given such a branch to work in, it becomes less "urgent" to finish a
>> release since it no longer needs to block normal development progress.
>> Of course, you still don't want to spend forever getting a release
>> out, but at least the release itself doesn't become a blocker.
>>
> Having some urgency to completing a release once it's decided to start it is
> probably beneficial as a whole.
>
> However, in the current situation we've have sage8.2rc0 more than a month
> ago and progress on the development branch is at a complete standstill at
> the moment. I don't think this is healthy for the project. I don't have the
> time or expertise to help with that myself, but I hope others do and are
> able to dislodge the current jam.

My suggestion for how to resolve this seems obvious and
straightforward.  The only objection I've seen is "but what will the
patchbots do?"  But with a better documented process that is easily
resolved.

If it's not clear, shall I write up some more formal documentation for
my proposed process?

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[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2 released

2018-05-07 Thread Enrique Artal
I have tried, but there are too many dependences. I will wait for binaries. 
I tried to compile on two computers; In one of them python3 was compiled 
but python2 failed on both. thanks for the tip, anyway.

El lunes, 7 de mayo de 2018, 10:37:56 (UTC+2), Dima Pasechnik escribió:
>
> You're using gcc-8.0.1 - this is not (yet) supported - perhaps it's known 
> to Python people this this does not work...
> Can you install gcc-7 and make it the default compiler?
>
> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:21:53 PM UTC+1, Enrique Artal wrote:
>>
>> I was unable to compile it in Fedora 28. I attach the log giles.
>>
>> El domingo, 6 de mayo de 2018, 10:56:04 (UTC+2), Volker Braun escribió:
>>>
>>> The "master" git branch has been updated to Sage-8.1. As always, you can 
>>> get the latest beta version from the "develop" git branch. Alternatively, 
>>> the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>
>>> There was no change over 8.2.rc4
>>>
>>

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[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2 released

2018-05-07 Thread Dima Pasechnik
You're using gcc-8.0.1 - this is not (yet) supported - perhaps it's known 
to Python people this this does not work...
Can you install gcc-7 and make it the default compiler?

On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:21:53 PM UTC+1, Enrique Artal wrote:
>
> I was unable to compile it in Fedora 28. I attach the log giles.
>
> El domingo, 6 de mayo de 2018, 10:56:04 (UTC+2), Volker Braun escribió:
>>
>> The "master" git branch has been updated to Sage-8.1. As always, you can 
>> get the latest beta version from the "develop" git branch. Alternatively, 
>> the self-contained source tarball is at 
>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>
>> There was no change over 8.2.rc4
>>
>

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