[sage-support] Re: Several Substitution
If I follow your cpde correctly, you are working on polynoms in X0,..,X3. What you attempt to create would be a polynom in x00,..,x03,x10..x33. Doubleplusungood... You should probaby use expressions in SR and cast the resultant expression in the ring of polynoms in x00,..x33. BTW, you don't have to loop on your substitution : create a dictionary. This gives : p = 3 k.t = GF(2^p) nvars = 4 vars_GF = [] vars_gf2 = [] vars_gf2subs = [] l = 0 for i in range(nvars): vars_GF.append(var(X+str(i))) sum1 = 0 for j in range(p): vars_gf2.append(var(x+str(i)+str(j))) sum1 = sum1 + vars_gf2[i*p+j]*(t^j) l = l + 1 vars_gf2subs.append(sum1) PR = PolynomialRing(k, nvars, names = vars_GF) p = PR.random_element(degree=2) Dic={vars_GF[i]:vars_gf2subs[i] for i in range(nvars)} PR2=PolynomialRing(k, nvars*p, names = vars_gf2) p2=PR2(SR(p).subs(Dic)) p2 might or might not be what you want. There are probably more steamlined ways to accomplish what you want, but I'm only discovering Sage... HTH, -- Emmanuel Charpentier Le lundi 18 août 2014 07:18:26 UTC+2, juaninf a écrit : Dears members I need doing substitution of values vars_gf2subs in vars_GF variables on p polynomial. I'm trying p.subs(vars_GF[i]=vars_gf2subs[i]) bu tI get error. How I will be able to doing that? p = 3 k.t = GF(2^p) nvars = 4 vars_GF = [] vars_gf2 = [] vars_gf2subs = [] l = 0 for i in range(nvars): vars_GF.append(var(X+str(i))) sum1 = 0 for j in range(p): vars_gf2.append(var(x+str(i)+str(j))) sum1 = sum1 + vars_gf2[i*p+j]*(t^j) l = l + 1 vars_gf2subs.append(sum1) PR = PolynomialRing(k, nvars, names = vars_GF) p = PR.random_element(degree=2) for i in range(nvars): print vars_GF[i] p.subs(vars_GF[i]=vars_gf2subs[i]) -- - MSc. Juan del Carmen Grados Vásquez Laboratório Nacional de Computação Científica Tel: +55 21 97633 3228 (http://www.lncc.br/) http://juaninf.blogspot.com - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-support] Re: Several Substitution
Dear Emmanuel, Thank, ... one last question ... How I will be able to extract the coefficients of t^0,t^1,...,t^(p-1) 2014-08-18 5:49 GMT-03:00 Emmanuel Charpentier emanuel.charpent...@gmail.com: If I follow your cpde correctly, you are working on polynoms in X0,..,X3. What you attempt to create would be a polynom in x00,..,x03,x10..x33. Doubleplusungood... You should probaby use expressions in SR and cast the resultant expression in the ring of polynoms in x00,..x33. BTW, you don't have to loop on your substitution : create a dictionary. This gives : p = 3 k.t = GF(2^p) nvars = 4 vars_GF = [] vars_gf2 = [] vars_gf2subs = [] l = 0 for i in range(nvars): vars_GF.append(var(X+str(i))) sum1 = 0 for j in range(p): vars_gf2.append(var(x+str(i)+str(j))) sum1 = sum1 + vars_gf2[i*p+j]*(t^j) l = l + 1 vars_gf2subs.append(sum1) PR = PolynomialRing(k, nvars, names = vars_GF) p = PR.random_element(degree=2) Dic={vars_GF[i]:vars_gf2subs[i] for i in range(nvars)} PR2=PolynomialRing(k, nvars*p, names = vars_gf2) p2=PR2(SR(p).subs(Dic)) p2 might or might not be what you want. There are probably more steamlined ways to accomplish what you want, but I'm only discovering Sage... HTH, -- Emmanuel Charpentier Le lundi 18 août 2014 07:18:26 UTC+2, juaninf a écrit : Dears members I need doing substitution of values vars_gf2subs in vars_GF variables on p polynomial. I'm trying p.subs(vars_GF[i]=vars_gf2subs[i]) bu tI get error. How I will be able to doing that? p = 3 k.t = GF(2^p) nvars = 4 vars_GF = [] vars_gf2 = [] vars_gf2subs = [] l = 0 for i in range(nvars): vars_GF.append(var(X+str(i))) sum1 = 0 for j in range(p): vars_gf2.append(var(x+str(i)+str(j))) sum1 = sum1 + vars_gf2[i*p+j]*(t^j) l = l + 1 vars_gf2subs.append(sum1) PR = PolynomialRing(k, nvars, names = vars_GF) p = PR.random_element(degree=2) for i in range(nvars): print vars_GF[i] p.subs(vars_GF[i]=vars_gf2subs[i]) -- - MSc. Juan del Carmen Grados Vásquez Laboratório Nacional de Computação Científica Tel: +55 21 97633 3228 (http://www.lncc.br/) http://juaninf.blogspot.com - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- - MSc. Juan del Carmen Grados Vásquez Laboratório Nacional de Computação Científica Tel: +55 21 97633 3228 (http://www.lncc.br/) http://juaninf.blogspot.com - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.6_x86_64-app.dmg won't be built?
For OS X 10.6, there is no -app build of Sage 6.3 available for download, only sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.9_x86_64-app.dmg sage-6.2-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.6_x86_64-app.dmg Is this a new policy? Will those of us who don't like OS X 10.6 have to learn to build the OS X 10.6 -app versions ourselves? thanks, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Re: sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.6_x86_64-app.dmg won't be built?
Maybe you want to review this ticket: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16796 On Monday, August 18, 2014 3:26:27 PM UTC+1, Daniel Friedan wrote: For OS X 10.6, there is no -app build of Sage 6.3 available for download, only sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.9_x86_64-app.dmg sage-6.2-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.6_x86_64-app.dmg Is this a new policy? Will those of us who don't like OS X 10.6 have to learn to build the OS X 10.6 -app versions ourselves? thanks, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-support] Re: Several Substitution
On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:11:53 AM UTC-7, juaninf wrote: Dear Emmanuel, Thank, ... one last question ... How I will be able to extract the coefficients of t^0,t^1,...,t^(p-1) I wouldn't trust SR with anything in positive characteristic. It is not designed for it and it is hard to control what it will do at any particular moment (many algebraic operations will work out fine, but I wouldn't be confident that I can predict that it will only use those). The substitution you want to do is just a polynomial evaluation, so it should be fairly easy to work out what to do in terms of polynomial rings, without touching SR at all: k.t=GF(2^3) namesR=[x%d%d%(j,i) for j in [0..3] for i in [0..2]] R=PolynomialRing(k,names=namesR) subsvar=[sum((t^i*R.gen(i+3*j) for i in [0..2])) for j in [0..3]] //now we have your substitution namesP=[X%d%i for i in [0..3]] P=PolynomialRing(k,names=namesP) p=P.random_element(degree=2) //this gives your example polynomial. Evaluating: p(subsvar) q=p(subsvar) #let's give it a name //to split according to coefficients wrt. t we need t to be the outer variable: A=PolynomialRing(GF(2),namesR) At=A['t'] //unfortunately, sage cannot figure out the coercion from R to At by itself, so we need to help it. We just extract coefficient-monomial pairs //and map them over individually and then assemble as a polynomial again: //we run into a bad bug here as well: qAt=sum(At(b.polynomial())*A(a) for b,a in dict(q).iteritems()) dict(q) unfortunately has the coefficients for keys and monomials for values. That must be a stupid typo in the source. e.g. dict(R.0+R.1) gives garbage back. After the bugfix the invocation should be a,b in dict(q).iteritems() ... //to get the coefficients you want: qAt.list() however, currently that will only give you the correct answer if all the non-zero coefficients in q happen to be distinct. You could use q.dict() instead which has the appropriate order, but encodes the monomials as exponent vectors, which are hard to convert to At. [you should go that route, though, because the other method can give you wrong answers] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-support] Re: Several Substitution
On Monday, August 18, 2014 9:25:56 AM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: You could use q.dict() instead which has the appropriate order, but encodes the monomials as exponent vectors, which are hard to convert to At. [you should go that route, though, because the other method can give you wrong answers] Workaround (relying on .monomials() and .coefficients() returning their results in compatible order): sum([b.polynomial()*At(a) for a,b in zip(q.monomials(),q.coefficients())]).list() You should file tickets for the bugs in dict(q) and the uselessness of q.dict(). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Strange characters in sage terminal
Hi! I used to see some straight lines when I started the sage command-line (the ones surrounding the header), but now I see some question marks of the kind you see when your system doesn't recognize some character. What do you think I'm missing? I have an Ubuntu system. http://i.imgur.com/NItMB21.png Thank you! Oscar Lazo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Re: Strange characters in sage terminal
On 2014-08-18, Oscar Lazo algebraicame...@gmail.com wrote: --=_Part_1633_1643381375.1408388447844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi! I used to see some straight lines when I started the sage command-line (the ones surrounding the header), but now I see some question marks of the kind you see when your system doesn't recognize some character. What do you think I'm missing? I have an Ubuntu system. probably your terminal is not UTF-8 - aware. (these symbols are from UTF-8, not just ASCII) Try opening uxterm and running Sage there. If you still see these, this would indicate weird locale settings... http://i.imgur.com/NItMB21.png Thank you! Oscar Lazo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Re: Strange characters in sage terminal
Yes, I ran uxterm and I still see strange characters there. Any ideas? Thank you, Oscar. El lunes, 18 de agosto de 2014 14:41:42 UTC-5, Dima Pasechnik escribió: On 2014-08-18, Oscar Lazo algebra...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: --=_Part_1633_1643381375.1408388447844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi! I used to see some straight lines when I started the sage command-line (the ones surrounding the header), but now I see some question marks of the kind you see when your system doesn't recognize some character. What do you think I'm missing? I have an Ubuntu system. probably your terminal is not UTF-8 - aware. (these symbols are from UTF-8, not just ASCII) Try opening uxterm and running Sage there. If you still see these, this would indicate weird locale settings... http://i.imgur.com/NItMB21.png Thank you! Oscar Lazo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Sage giving wrong answer to simple question.
solve( (x^2-9)/(x-3) = 0, x) should yield x = -3, x neq 3, but Sage just gives x = -3. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Re: Sage giving wrong answer to simple question.
Well, the limit of your expression as x goes to 3 does exist. Oscar. El lunes, 18 de agosto de 2014 15:07:47 UTC-5, Ron Bannon escribió: solve( (x^2-9)/(x-3) = 0, x) should yield x = -3, x neq 3, but Sage just gives x = -3. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-support] Re: sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.6_x86_64-app.dmg won't be built?
Maybe you want to review this ticket: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16796 What Volker means by this is that he doesn't have access to a 10.6 buildbot to try this out. Apparently the machine that was there gave up the ghost... ? (Volker, did anyone get back to you on the status of bsd?) For OS X 10.6, there is no -app build of Sage 6.3 available for download, only sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.9_x86_64-app.dmg sage-6.2-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.6_x86_64-app.dmg Is this a new policy? Will those of us who don't like OS X 10.6 have to learn to build the OS X 10.6 -app versions ourselves? Hopefully not, but it may require volunteers to create them. It might even be possible for you to make your own version of it, true. I have a 10.7 binary which I have offered to upload but of course that wouldn't help you. - kcrisman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-support] Re: partitioned graphs in Sage?
Thanks, Dima, I will continue to experiment. At the moment I am having fun with show3d(color_by_label=True)! There are two helper functions you may like, buried in a module because I did not know how to write a nice user interface for that: sage: from sage.graphs.graph_plot import _circle_embedding sage: from sage.graphs.graph_plot import _line_embedding Wow that would be very useful to expose more generally! I just did a tutorial where I did this by hand as an example of how useful lambda functions are. The first one sets a list of vertices on a circle (you chose the center, you chose the radius, and you can rotate it a bit too) The second one sets a list of vertices on a segment for (x1,y1) to (x2,y2) An example that might interest you, if you have a graph whose interesting components are S1 and S2: sage: g = graphs.CubeGraph(4) sage: S1 = [x for x in g if x[-1] == '0'] sage: S2 = [x for x in g if x[-1] == '1'] sage: _circle_embedding(g,S1,center=(-1.5,0)) sage: _circle_embedding(g,S2,center=(1.5,0)) sage: g.show() Of course some edge may be drawn on top of each other and you don't like that. That's why you can rotate one of these circles a bit: sage: _circle_embedding(g,S2,center=(1.5,0),shift=.5) sage: g.show() Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-support] Re: Strange characters in sage terminal
On 08/18/2014 04:05 PM, Oscar Lazo wrote: Yes, I ran uxterm and I still see strange characters there. Any ideas? Thank you, You also need to be using a font which supplies those glyphs. I think the DejaVu family should have them if you want to test using that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-support group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.