Re: [sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik


On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 4:12:25 AM UTC+1, meInvent bbird wrote:
>
> i find this page
>
>
> http://combinat.sagemath.org/doc/reference/groups/sage/groups/matrix_gps/matrix_group.html
>
> it has
> as_permutation_group 
> but here do not have it
>
> this is for an old Sage version (6.3):
http://combinat.sagemath.org/doc/index.html

things get changed in Sage...
 

>
> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 1:13:23 AM UTC+8, vdelecroix wrote:
>>
>> And the error message is crystal clear 
>>
>>  AttributeError: 'UnitaryMatrixGroup_gap_with_category' object 
>>  has no attribute 'as_permutation_group' 
>>
>> What do you want to do? 
>>
>> On 22/06/16 10:29, meInvent bbird wrote: 
>> > S3 = SU(3,3); 
>> > S3.as_matrix_group() 
>> > S3.as_permutation_group() 
>>
>

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Re: [sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread meInvent bbird
i run in sage 

is as_matrix_group equivalent to permutation matrix in gap system?

i find SU has variable a , which matrix is permutation matrix?

i input this result into singular system , it run a very long time for 
invariant ring.

LIB "finvar.lib";
ring R=0,(x,y,z),dp;
matrix A[3][3]=2*x,2,1,2,2,0,1,0,0;
matrix B(1..3);
B(1..3)=invariant_ring(A);

S3 = SU(3,3);
S3.as_matrix_group()
S3.as_permutation_group()
[a 0 0]  [2*a   2   1]
[0 a + 1 0]  [  2   2   0]
[0 0   2*a], [  1   0   0]
S2 = SU(2,3);
S2.as_matrix_group()
S2.as_permutation_group()
[  1 2*a + 2]  [  0 2*a + 2]
[  0   1], [2*a + 2   0]
U1 = U(1,3);
U1.as_matrix_group()
U1.as_permutation_group()

On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 1:13:23 AM UTC+8, vdelecroix wrote:
>
> And the error message is crystal clear 
>
>  AttributeError: 'UnitaryMatrixGroup_gap_with_category' object 
>  has no attribute 'as_permutation_group' 
>
> What do you want to do? 
>
> On 22/06/16 10:29, meInvent bbird wrote: 
> > S3 = SU(3,3); 
> > S3.as_matrix_group() 
> > S3.as_permutation_group() 
>

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Re: [sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread meInvent bbird
in gap system in sage cloud, for SU is different from transitive group

how to run for SU to see permutation matrix ?

LoadPackage("sonata");
n:=3;;
name := Filename( DirectoryCurrent(), "test" );;
output := OutputTextFile( name, true );;
for G in SpecialUnitaryGroup( 3, 3 ) do
  Display(G);
  Display(PermutationMat(G,n,Rationals));
od;


LoadPackage("sonata");
n:=3;;
name := Filename( DirectoryCurrent(), "test" );;
output := OutputTextFile( name, true );;
for G in AllTransitiveGroups(NrMovedPoints,n) do
  Display(AsPermGroup(G));
  Display(PermutationMat(AsPermGroup(G).1,n,Rationals));
od;


On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 1:13:23 AM UTC+8, vdelecroix wrote:
>
> And the error message is crystal clear 
>
>  AttributeError: 'UnitaryMatrixGroup_gap_with_category' object 
>  has no attribute 'as_permutation_group' 
>
> What do you want to do? 
>
> On 22/06/16 10:29, meInvent bbird wrote: 
> > S3 = SU(3,3); 
> > S3.as_matrix_group() 
> > S3.as_permutation_group() 
>

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Re: [sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread meInvent bbird
what is the command to find permutation matrix equivalent to gap command

PermutationMat(AsPermGroup(G).1,n,Rationals))

On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 1:13:23 AM UTC+8, vdelecroix wrote:
>
> And the error message is crystal clear 
>
>  AttributeError: 'UnitaryMatrixGroup_gap_with_category' object 
>  has no attribute 'as_permutation_group' 
>
> What do you want to do? 
>
> On 22/06/16 10:29, meInvent bbird wrote: 
> > S3 = SU(3,3); 
> > S3.as_matrix_group() 
> > S3.as_permutation_group() 
>

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Re: [sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread meInvent bbird
i find this page

http://combinat.sagemath.org/doc/reference/groups/sage/groups/matrix_gps/matrix_group.html

it has
as_permutation_group 
but here do not have it


On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 1:13:23 AM UTC+8, vdelecroix wrote:
>
> And the error message is crystal clear 
>
>  AttributeError: 'UnitaryMatrixGroup_gap_with_category' object 
>  has no attribute 'as_permutation_group' 
>
> What do you want to do? 
>
> On 22/06/16 10:29, meInvent bbird wrote: 
> > S3 = SU(3,3); 
> > S3.as_matrix_group() 
> > S3.as_permutation_group() 
>

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[sage-support] Re: trac mails are back on

2016-06-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 11:24:31 PM UTC+1, leif wrote:
>
> Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
> > Trac emails should work now 
>
> Yes, thanks. 
>
> > (going via sendgrid.net). 
>
> Why that?  I'm getting ugly HTML mails with obfuscated links (and of 
> course phishing attempt alerts). 
>
> GCE does not allow running smtp on the usual port 25. So one has to send 
via some 3rd party
smtp server.

We will set up domain whitelabeling, hopefully soon, to make these links 
etc normal...

Dima
 

> > Please shout if 
> > something is not working. 
>
> I won't click on them... B) 
>
>
> -leif 
>
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > Dima 
>
>
>
>

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[sage-support] Re: trac mails are back on

2016-06-22 Thread leif
Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> Trac emails should work now 

Yes, thanks.

> (going via sendgrid.net). 

Why that?  I'm getting ugly HTML mails with obfuscated links (and of
course phishing attempt alerts).

> Please shout if
> something is not working.

I won't click on them... B)


-leif

> 
> Cheers,
> Dima



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[sage-support] trac mails are back on

2016-06-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Trac emails should work now (going via sendgrid.net). Please shout if 
something is not working.

Cheers,
Dima

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Re: [sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread Vincent Delecroix

And the error message is crystal clear

AttributeError: 'UnitaryMatrixGroup_gap_with_category' object
has no attribute 'as_permutation_group'

What do you want to do?

On 22/06/16 10:29, meInvent bbird wrote:

S3 = SU(3,3);
S3.as_matrix_group()
S3.as_permutation_group()


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[sage-support] Re: {trac,git}.sagemath.org downtime Wednesday 6/22

2016-06-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
there is an issue related to "native git" protocol used to communicate with 
git server on trac.sagemath.
Namely, if you try to use the URL git://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git for 
(say) fetch it does not get through.
(probably a GCE firewall blocks the corresponding port).

Using the ssh URL, i.e. g...@trac.sagemath.org:sage.git does work.

Dima

On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:18:49 PM UTC+1, Erik Bray wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> As decided toward the end of another recent thread [1] I willl be 
> taking down the server at UW which hosts both trac.sagemath.org and 
> git.sagemath.org, starting around 8:00 A.M. CEST.  There are at least 
> three reasons for this: 
>
> 1. Mitigate issues related to reliance upon university IT 
> infrastructure over which we have little control [2][3] or influence 
> 2. Move to tier 1 cloud-based hosting for greater ease of deployment 
> and (hopefully) better reliability 
> 3. Address current and ongoing preformance / access issues with the 
> Trac site, which are possibly related to 1 
>
> An additional change to be aware of is that access to 
> trac.sagemath.org, as well as the git web interface at 
> git.sagemath.org will be switched to HTTPS *only*.  HTTP redirects 
> will be set up, but please update any URLs nonetheless. 
>
> Other than that, with a little luck you should notice few or any 
> differences.  Please keep in mind though that the current Sage Trac 
> infrastructure has a layer of grime and mold over it, and it's 
> entirely possible I've missed a few spots while shining it up.  So if 
> anything isn't working after the migration please be patient and 
> cooperate by sending notice either to 
> sagemat...@googlegroups.com , or to me personally*. 
>
> Best, 
> Erik 
>
> * The offer to e-mail me personally about such issues expires some 
> indeterminate amount of time after the migration is completed.  I want 
> to be on-call for migration-related issues, but in general support 
> issues should be sent to one of the mailing lists where they can be 
> handled by the best personal available at the moment. 
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> [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/EKhgXsdKMhY/52fKpHDBAQAJ 
> [2] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/Xw6CNq1lyiI/aeyT5TluDQAJ 
> [3] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/Xw6CNq1lyiI/APzgctSUDQAJ 
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[sage-support] run SU as_permutation_group has error

2016-06-22 Thread meInvent bbird
S3 = SU(3,3);
S3.as_matrix_group()
S3.as_permutation_group()

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