[sage-support] strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
I'm using Sage 6.2 on Arch Linux. I have posted before about sums being 
wrong 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-support/IgC78rcdO7c/qTWzpA9f-P8J, 
and I am happy to see that the community took action. Thanks! I have been 
seeing other errors that may or may not be related to those addressed in 
the link above.

I open a new Sage session (command line). The following code ought to 
return (e^x - 1)/x.

sage: k = var('k')
sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo)
1/4*sqrt(pi)*sqrt(x)*e^(1/2*x)

This looks similar to the sort of nonsense it was spitting out when 
misinterpreting 
Bessel functions from Maxima http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16224. In 
the same session, if I run the summation command again, the result is 
different.

sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo)
sum(x^k/factorial(k + 1), k, 0, +Infinity)

And after this it will not simplify any sums, even ones it would have done 
correctly on the first try:

sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo)
sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity)

Even a reset doesn't help. (As a side-note, the exit command doesn't 
survive reset.)

sage: reset()
sage: k = var('k')
sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo)
sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity)
sage: exit

---
NameError Traceback (most recent call 
last)
/opt/sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.py in 
module()
 1 exit

NameError: name 'exit' is not defined

Finite sums seem to be ok.

sage: sum(x^k,k,0,3)
x^3 + x^2 + x + 1
sage: m = var('m')
sage: sum(x^k,k,0,m)
(x^(m + 1) - 1)/(x - 1)

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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[sage-support] Re: strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
Sorry, I haven't. I don't know how.

On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:38:46 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:

 On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  I'm using Sage 6.2 on Arch Linux. I have posted before about sums being 
  wrong 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-support/IgC78rcdO7c/qTWzpA9f-P8J, 
  and I am happy to see that the community took action. Thanks! I have 
 been 
  seeing other errors that may or may not be related to those addressed in 
  the link above. 
  
  I open a new Sage session (command line). The following code ought to 
  return (e^x - 1)/x. 
  
  sage: k = var('k') 
  sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo) 
  1/4*sqrt(pi)*sqrt(x)*e^(1/2*x) 
  
  This looks similar to the sort of nonsense it was spitting out when 
 misinterpreting 
  Bessel functions from Maxima http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16224. 
 In 
  the same session, if I run the summation command again, the result is 

 did you try applying the patch from #16224 ? 

  different. 
  
  sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo) 
  sum(x^k/factorial(k + 1), k, 0, +Infinity) 
  
  And after this it will not simplify any sums, even ones it would have 
 done 
  correctly on the first try: 
  
  sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo) 
  sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity) 
  
  Even a reset doesn't help. (As a side-note, the exit command doesn't 
  survive reset.) 
  
  sage: reset() 
  sage: k = var('k') 
  sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo) 
  sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity) 
  sage: exit 
  
  
 --- 
  NameError Traceback (most recent 
 call 
  last) 
  /opt/sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.py in 
 module() 
   1 exit 
  
  NameError: name 'exit' is not defined 
  
  Finite sums seem to be ok. 
  
  sage: sum(x^k,k,0,3) 
  x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 
  sage: m = var('m') 
  sage: sum(x^k,k,0,m) 
  (x^(m + 1) - 1)/(x - 1) 
  
  Any help is greatly appreciated. 
  



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[sage-support] Re: strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
Thank you. It is obviously time that I learn to use git.

On Monday, June 23, 2014 9:10:09 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:

 On 2014-06-23, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Sorry, I haven't. I don't know how. 
  well, this is actually easy to fix, as no recompilation of Sage is 
  needed here: the only change is in src/sage/intefaces/maxima_lib.py 
  
  
 http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/diff/src/sage/interfaces/maxima_lib.py?id=3e25c1357e6ecc551afe3e27633fdbbd01982708
  
  
  if you have Sage installed locally, know how to use git then 
  you can get this patch applied and then run `sage -b`.   
  
  In case you do not know anything about git, you can still get a copy 
  of the updated file from here: 
  http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/plain/src/sage/interfaces/maxima_lib.py 
 oops, sorry, this will give you an only unpatched copy... 
 So you really need to get the patch somehow. 
  
  save it as SAGE_ROOT/src/sage/intefaces/maxima_lib.py 
  and then run `sage -b`. 
  
  HTH, 
  Dmitrii 
  
  On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:38:46 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
  
  On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
   I'm using Sage 6.2 on Arch Linux. I have posted before about sums 
 being 
   wrong 
  
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-support/IgC78rcdO7c/qTWzpA9f-P8J, 
   and I am happy to see that the community took action. Thanks! I have 
  been 
   seeing other errors that may or may not be related to those 
 addressed in 
   the link above. 
   
   I open a new Sage session (command line). The following code ought 
 to 
   return (e^x - 1)/x. 
   
   sage: k = var('k') 
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo) 
   1/4*sqrt(pi)*sqrt(x)*e^(1/2*x) 
   
   This looks similar to the sort of nonsense it was spitting out when 
  misinterpreting 
   Bessel functions from Maxima http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16224. 

  In 
   the same session, if I run the summation command again, the result 
 is 
  
  did you try applying the patch from #16224 ? 
  
   different. 
   
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo) 
   sum(x^k/factorial(k + 1), k, 0, +Infinity) 
   
   And after this it will not simplify any sums, even ones it would 
 have 
  done 
   correctly on the first try: 
   
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo) 
   sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity) 
   
   Even a reset doesn't help. (As a side-note, the exit command doesn't 
   survive reset.) 
   
   sage: reset() 
   sage: k = var('k') 
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo) 
   sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity) 
   sage: exit 
   
   
  
 --- 
   NameError Traceback (most recent 
  call 
   last) 
   /opt/sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.py 
 in 
  module() 
    1 exit 
   
   NameError: name 'exit' is not defined 
   
   Finite sums seem to be ok. 
   
   sage: sum(x^k,k,0,3) 
   x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 
   sage: m = var('m') 
   sage: sum(x^k,k,0,m) 
   (x^(m + 1) - 1)/(x - 1) 
   
   Any help is greatly appreciated. 
   
  
  
  
  



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Re: [sage-support] Re: strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
I have installed git and chosen my name and email address. What commands
should I run to apply this patch? I have been reading the developer manual,
but at this point I am not interested in contributing code to Sage. I just
want to apply patches.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Karl Schultheisz art.live...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thank you. It is obviously time that I learn to use git.

 On Monday, June 23, 2014 9:10:09 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:

 On 2014-06-23, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry, I haven't. I don't know how.
  well, this is actually easy to fix, as no recompilation of Sage is
  needed here: the only change is in src/sage/intefaces/maxima_lib.py
 
  http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/diff/src/sage/interfaces/
 maxima_lib.py?id=3e25c1357e6ecc551afe3e27633fdbbd01982708
 
  if you have Sage installed locally, know how to use git then
  you can get this patch applied and then run `sage -b`.
 
  In case you do not know anything about git, you can still get a copy
  of the updated file from here:
  http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/plain/src/sage/interfaces/
 maxima_lib.py
 oops, sorry, this will give you an only unpatched copy...
 So you really need to get the patch somehow.
 
  save it as SAGE_ROOT/src/sage/intefaces/maxima_lib.py
  and then run `sage -b`.
 
  HTH,
  Dmitrii
 
  On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:38:46 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
 
  On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com javascript:
 wrote:
   I'm using Sage 6.2 on Arch Linux. I have posted before about sums
 being
   wrong
  https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-support/IgC78rcdO7c/
 qTWzpA9f-P8J,
   and I am happy to see that the community took action. Thanks! I
 have
  been
   seeing other errors that may or may not be related to those
 addressed in
   the link above.
  
   I open a new Sage session (command line). The following code ought
 to
   return (e^x - 1)/x.
  
   sage: k = var('k')
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo)
   1/4*sqrt(pi)*sqrt(x)*e^(1/2*x)
  
   This looks similar to the sort of nonsense it was spitting out when
  misinterpreting
   Bessel functions from Maxima http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16224.

  In
   the same session, if I run the summation command again, the result
 is
 
  did you try applying the patch from #16224 ?
 
   different.
  
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo)
   sum(x^k/factorial(k + 1), k, 0, +Infinity)
  
   And after this it will not simplify any sums, even ones it would
 have
  done
   correctly on the first try:
  
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo)
   sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity)
  
   Even a reset doesn't help. (As a side-note, the exit command
 doesn't
   survive reset.)
  
   sage: reset()
   sage: k = var('k')
   sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo)
   sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity)
   sage: exit
  
  
  ---

   NameError Traceback (most
 recent
  call
   last)
   /opt/sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.py
 in
  module()
    1 exit
  
   NameError: name 'exit' is not defined
  
   Finite sums seem to be ok.
  
   sage: sum(x^k,k,0,3)
   x^3 + x^2 + x + 1
   sage: m = var('m')
   sage: sum(x^k,k,0,m)
   (x^(m + 1) - 1)/(x - 1)
  
   Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: [sage-support] Re: strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
Thanks for your help. I ran:

[...sage]$ git fetch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git
u/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage
fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git




On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.live...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have installed git and chosen my name and email address. What commands
  should I run to apply this patch? I have been reading the developer
 manual,
  but at this point I am not interested in contributing code to Sage. I
 just
  want to apply patches.
 this is basically reviewing tickets.
 Although you need a developer's access to follow typical recepies from
 there. However, without the latter you are still OK.
 What you can do is the following:
 (from your SAGEROOT directory)

git fetch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git
 u/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage

 you should  see something like:

 From http://trac.sagemath.org/sage
  * branchu/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage - FETCH_HEAD

 Now we merge the stuff we just fetched:

git merge FETCH_HEAD

 this will open up an editor to record the merge commit message; write
 something there (normally it will already have some text to record).
 After you saved this file you will see somthing like

 Merge made by the 'recursive' strategy.
  src/sage/interfaces/maxima_lib.py | 58
  ++
   1 file changed, 34 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)

 OK, patch applied, finally run

./sage -b

 HTH,
 Dmitrii




 
 
  On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Karl Schultheisz art.live...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Thank you. It is obviously time that I learn to use git.
 
  On Monday, June 23, 2014 9:10:09 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
 
  On 2014-06-23, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote:
   On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com wrote:
   Sorry, I haven't. I don't know how.
   well, this is actually easy to fix, as no recompilation of Sage is
   needed here: the only change is in src/sage/intefaces/maxima_lib.py
  
   http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/diff/src/sage/interfaces/
  maxima_lib.py?id=3e25c1357e6ecc551afe3e27633fdbbd01982708
  
   if you have Sage installed locally, know how to use git then
   you can get this patch applied and then run `sage -b`.
  
   In case you do not know anything about git, you can still get a copy
   of the updated file from here:
   http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/plain/src/sage/interfaces/
  maxima_lib.py
  oops, sorry, this will give you an only unpatched copy...
  So you really need to get the patch somehow.
  
   save it as SAGE_ROOT/src/sage/intefaces/maxima_lib.py
   and then run `sage -b`.
  
   HTH,
   Dmitrii
  
   On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:38:46 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
  
   On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.l...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:
I'm using Sage 6.2 on Arch Linux. I have posted before about sums
  being
wrong
   https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-support/IgC78rcdO7c/
  qTWzpA9f-P8J,
and I am happy to see that the community took action. Thanks! I
  have
   been
seeing other errors that may or may not be related to those
  addressed in
the link above.
   
I open a new Sage session (command line). The following code
 ought
  to
return (e^x - 1)/x.
   
sage: k = var('k')
sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo)
1/4*sqrt(pi)*sqrt(x)*e^(1/2*x)
   
This looks similar to the sort of nonsense it was spitting out
 when
   misinterpreting
Bessel functions from Maxima 
 http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16224.
 
   In
the same session, if I run the summation command again, the
 result
  is
  
   did you try applying the patch from #16224 ?
  
different.
   
sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k+1),k,0,oo)
sum(x^k/factorial(k + 1), k, 0, +Infinity)
   
And after this it will not simplify any sums, even ones it would
  have
   done
correctly on the first try:
   
sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo)
sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity)
   
Even a reset doesn't help. (As a side-note, the exit command
  doesn't
survive reset.)
   
sage: reset()
sage: k = var('k')
sage: sum(x^k/factorial(k),k,0,oo)
sum(x^k/factorial(k), k, 0, +Infinity)
sage: exit
   
   
  
 ---
 
NameError Traceback (most
  recent
   call
last)
   
 /opt/sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.py
  in
   module()
 1 exit
   
NameError: name 'exit' is not defined
   
Finite sums seem to be ok.
   
sage: sum(x^k,k,0,3)
x^3 + x^2 + x + 1
sage: m = var('m')
sage: sum(x^k,k,0,m)
(x^(m + 1) - 1)/(x - 1)
   
Any help is greatly appreciated.
   
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: [sage-support] Re: strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
I agree. Not sure why it is formatted in the quotation as two lines,
because I entered it as one line.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.live...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for your help. I ran:
 
  [...sage]$ git fetch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git
  u/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage
  fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git

 this should be one command (on one line)

 $ git fetch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git
 u/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage


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Re: [sage-support] Re: strange behavior with sums

2014-06-23 Thread Karl Schultheisz
In Arch Linux, Sage installs to /opt/sage. I assume this is the SAGEROOT
you refer to.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Karl Schultheisz art.live...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I agree. Not sure why it is formatted in the quotation as two lines,
 because I entered it as one line.


 On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2014-06-23, Karl Schultheisz art.live...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for your help. I ran:
 
  [...sage]$ git fetch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git
  u/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage
  fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git

 this should be one command (on one line)

 $ git fetch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage.git
 u/pbruin/16224-maxima_to_sage


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