Fwd: [sage-support] Application/Use of Sage in IT company or Industries
hello sage users and developers.one of my friend asked me the following questions.can you please give the sufficient information? I want to ask that what is the use of sage? Why should we use it? Where its being used till date? These questions might be simple and i want to know before i go deep in sage. Please everyone on this mailing list reply that why you use sage? Whatever i think about sage is that sage is helpful for teaching maths. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Application/Use of Sage in IT company or Industries
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Priyanka Kapoor anjalicool.kapoor...@gmail.com wrote: I want to ask that what is the use of sage? Why should we use it? Where its being used till date? That's kind of impossible to answer. Imagine if somebody asked you: What is the use of mathematics? Why should we use mathematics? Where is mathematics being used until now? -- William These questions might be simple and i want to know before i go deep in sage. Please everyone on this mailing list reply that why you use sage? Whatever i think about sage is that sage is helpful for teaching maths. -- Priyanka Kapoor http://kapoorpriyanka.in Linux User Group, Ludhiana -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- William Stein Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Application/Use of Sage in IT company or Industries
That's specifically the kind of questions that make me hate the scientific spirit. Prove it, or it does not exist, instead of It looks like it exists but I don't get how. I think that Sage is useless, and as the mathematics that made me work on it are totally useless too I do not mind much. But that's not that bad, because I think advertisement is useless AND hurts both the environment and people that have to live with that around them, and I also think computers are useless because they require thousands of people to work on them (from producters to coders) to simplify some things that we would not even think worth doing otherwise, and so that's another example of being both useless and bad for mankind. I think that politics is useless in the best case and dangerous in all others, and that people would live better if we got rid of those guys that consistently try to be elected leader and to have power over everybody else. I think being useless, and *only* useless is actually a pretty good thing. Most things do much, much worse. So, to answer your questions, I guess that Sage has no proper use. And I think nobody should ever use it under any circumstances. I would not use it myself if I were not adding code to it, and I add code to it because through the years it remains unable to do what I would like it to do without having to code it myself. Oh. And as a developper in the graph section, I do not really want what I code to be useful. I just want the users to be happy. They want to do something - they are surprised when they find out that the feature they need actually exists - they get on doing whatever they were doing, and if possible listen to some nice music. The worst that could happen is : They want to do something - they spend hours to only find out that there is no clean way to do what they had in mind - they drop whatever they had in mind to write Sage code, which takes a lifetime, and totally forget what they wanted to do in the first place. That would be a failure. And that's the totality of MY Sage experience. But somehow I came to like that. When I ask Sage a question it never answers it, instead it asks me to write a new algorithm or teaches me something about Python, Cython, or programming in general. I learn a lot of stuff this way, but the question stay unanswered. Hence, do not use Sage if you have something specific in mind. It just won't help :-) Nathann -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Application/Use of Sage in IT company or Industries
William, I think you are being overly negative, although I agree the question could have been put a little better. If someone is thinking of using Sage in industry, they are likely to want to know how much it is used in industry. I think I'd answer this by pointing out some of the advantages compared to commerical, sotware. On 10 May 2012 12:06, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Priyanka Kapoor anjalicool.kapoor...@gmail.com wrote: I want to ask that what is the use of sage? Why should we use it? Where its being used till date? That's kind of impossible to answer. Imagine if somebody asked you: What is the use of mathematics? Why should we use mathematics? Where is mathematics being used until now? -- William These questions might be simple and i want to know before i go deep in sage. Please everyone on this mailing list reply that why you use sage? Whatever i think about sage is that sage is helpful for teaching maths. -- Priyanka Kapoor -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Application/Use of Sage in IT company or Industries
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:36 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I think you are being overly negative, although I agree the question could have been put a little better. If someone is thinking of using Sage in industry, they are likely to want to know how much it is used in industry. I guess all nice and great developers are working overtime, and they got disturbed from an innocent question from a newbie, who want to explore this wonderful software. Rather what ever is asked should be in FAQ. Like, What you can do with sage-math? Who is using Sage? What you can't do with it? What its user say Success stories. http://www.sagemath.org/library-stories.html http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE_in_the_News http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/efb05c839032803e/cba6f751578883a0 Let us encourage more people to adopt it, use it. -- H.S.Rai -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Application/Use of Sage in IT company or Industries
I want to ask that what is the use of sage? Why should we use it? Where its being used till date? These questions might be simple and i want to know before i go deep in sage. Please everyone on this mailing list reply that why you use sage? Whatever i think about sage is that sage is helpful for teaching maths. -- Priyanka Kapoor http://kapoorpriyanka.in Linux User Group, Ludhiana -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
