[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
Dear Michael, dear Minh, I had strongly underestimated the HD-space consumption of a sage server. (I didn't look into the reader ...) Man, it is huge! After re-partitioning my drive I ran the installer in a command line session, like Minh has tought me. It took somewhat between 15 and 18 hours. Now sage is running on that old notebook. You who developed it did a great job. (I am very impressed by that software. I am going to hold some tutorials for the kids at my german high school how to use sage and so to have fun with math. My plan is to tell them that there are only two basic commands you need to know at the beginning, that is the TAB (to complete the command you guessed might work) and after that the question mark and shift-enter to look up the usage. Yesterday I found a third and a very exciting one: search-doc. I think this one is going to shift sage far beyond the limits of maplesoft and wolfram.) Thanks a lot. Markus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM, littlemathteacher relational...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Michael, dear Minh, I had strongly underestimated the HD-space consumption of a sage server. (I didn't look into the reader ...) Man, it is huge! After re-partitioning my drive I ran the installer in a command line session, like Minh has tought me. It took somewhat between 15 and 18 hours. Now sage is running on that old notebook. You who developed it did a great job. (I am very impressed by that software. I am going to hold some tutorials for the kids at my german high school how to use sage and so to have fun with math. My plan is to tell them that there are only two basic commands you need to know at the beginning, that is the TAB (to complete the command you guessed might work) and after that the question mark and shift-enter to look up the usage. Yesterday I found a third and a very exciting one: search-doc. I think this one is going to shift sage far beyond the limits of maplesoft and wolfram.) It's search_doc. Also, search_src is interesting as well. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
Dear Minh, dear Michael, thanks a lot. Thanks to Minh for this simple but fine idea to compile in a command line session! Meanwhile the RAM I had bought has arrived and with the now available more than 300 MB I let the compiler run once again. This time it seemed to freeze at the same point but I still heard the harddisc working. So I went to bed and this morning the compilation is in fact done, but with an error. The simple but true reason is that there is no space left on the sda1 device, just as the installer told me. So there are still some options left to get a local sage with Minh's manual, more RAM and more HD- space. I am going to report it to you here when the installation is successfull. Also I will look up Minh's wiki in which folder to place sage. Thanks! Markus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
On Apr 23, 4:28 pm, littlemathteacher relational...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings from Franconia. Hi, I tried to use the compiler to build Sage in my Zenwalk system (Zenwalk is based on Slackware Linux), but this time it did't work (might be due to the antique hardware I am using this time). Could you elaborate what happened, i.e. post a link to the compressed install.log from your build. I would like to put a request for a Zenwalk-package of Sage to the Zenwalk commulity, because I consider myself not experienced enough to build one. Would it be o.k. to do that, I mean concerning legal matters? Do you mean that the distribution packages and redistributes Sage? Yes, that is allowed and would be welcome from our end. Thanks Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
Dear Michael, thanks. When I returned home this evening the process and the whole system seemed to be frozen as if by memory overload. I slowly tried to close some applications and among them accidentally was the bash in which I had opened the file manager (by su root) to cd into the sage folder in order to run the make - and by chain reaction the file manager and then the bash with the sage compilation closed. So I can't even say that the compilation literally crashed or froze, only that I am a little too stupid to let it do it's job. Maybe it was wrong to put it into the lib folder. I am still new to linux and this time a wanted sage not to live in any home directory. Which linux folder would you recommend to extract sage into? Maybe it was also wrong to run it from within a root bash while logged in as user (but in ubuntu I did it just this way). I made a compressed archive file out of the install.log and now I am thinking about where to save is so that it can be linked to. In the meantime maybe the last lines might be significant to you: [Code] make[5]: Entering directory `/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/interfaces/sage' /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H - I. -I../.. -I../.. -I. -I../../linbox -g -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -O2 - DDISABLE_COMMENTATOR -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/ sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -g -fPIC - I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -L/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/lib -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/ spkg/build/linbox-1.1.6/src -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include -D__LINBOX_HAVE_CBLAS -c -o linbox-sage.lo linbox-sage.C mkdir .libs g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I. -I../../linbox -g -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include - O2 -DDISABLE_COMMENTATOR -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -g - fPIC -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -L/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/lib -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/ spkg/build/linbox-1.1.6/src -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/ sage-3.4/local/include -D__LINBOX_HAVE_CBLAS -c linbox-sage.C -fPIC - DPIC -o .libs/linbox-sage.o [End Code] But please don't put too much effort into helping me make sage run on this old notebook, Michael. I've got two other instances of sage running fine. And I am getting more and more familiar with using the sage notebook online. On the long run this might be better anyway for most purposes. Thanks again and have a nice evening (or whatever time it is now at your location)! Markus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
On Apr 23, 5:41 pm, littlemathteacher relational...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Michael, Hi Markus, thanks. When I returned home this evening the process and the whole system seemed to be frozen as if by memory overload. I slowly tried to close some applications and among them accidentally was the bash in which I had opened the file manager (by su root) to cd into the sage folder in order to run the make - and by chain reaction the file manager and then the bash with the sage compilation closed. So I can't even say that the compilation literally crashed or froze, only that I am a little too stupid to let it do it's job. Actually it just takes a while to build LinBox and its Sage extension if you have little, i.e. less than 300 or so MB memory available. This does depend on the gcc though an gcc 4.x is worst in that regard than gcc 3.4.x. Maybe it was wrong to put it into the lib folder. I am still new to linux and this time a wanted sage not to live in any home directory. Which linux folder would you recommend to extract sage into? Maybe it was also wrong to run it from within a root bash while logged in as user (but in ubuntu I did it just this way). I made a compressed archive file out of the install.log and now I am thinking about where to save is so that it can be linked to. In the meantime maybe the last lines might be significant to you: [Code] SNIP g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I. -I../../linbox -g -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include - O2 -DDISABLE_COMMENTATOR -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -g - fPIC -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -L/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/lib -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/ spkg/build/linbox-1.1.6/src -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/ sage-3.4/local/include -D__LINBOX_HAVE_CBLAS -c linbox-sage.C -fPIC - DPIC -o .libs/linbox-sage.o [End Code] I have seen this one take 8 hour on a PS3 since it has only about 220 MB physical RAM available, so no surprises there. But please don't put too much effort into helping me make sage run on this old notebook, Michael. I've got two other instances of sage running fine. And I am getting more and more familiar with using the sage notebook online. On the long run this might be better anyway for most purposes. Yes, I would recommend to use a remove Sage server in this case :) Thanks again and have a nice evening (or whatever time it is now at your location)! Thanks, and the same to you. Markus Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Slackware/Zenwalk package
Hi Markus, On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:41 AM, littlemathteacher relational...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Michael, thanks. When I returned home this evening the process and the whole system seemed to be frozen as if by memory overload. I slowly tried to close some applications and among them accidentally was the bash in which I had opened the file manager (by su root) to cd into the sage folder in order to run the make - and by chain reaction the file manager and then the bash with the sage compilation closed. So I can't even say that the compilation literally crashed or froze, only that I am a little too stupid to let it do it's job. Maybe it was wrong to put it into the lib folder. I am still new to linux and this time a wanted sage not to live in any home directory. Which linux folder would you recommend to extract sage into? Maybe it was also wrong to run it from within a root bash while logged in as user (but in ubuntu I did it just this way). Over a year ago, I was trying to compile Sage and running all the tests under Slackware 10.0 on an old IBM Thinkpad (perhaps R40?). At first the compilation failed due to system resource issues. But I edited my /etc/inittab to boot into a text based session, rather than a graphical session such as Gnome, KDE or XFCE. So after logging into a text based session as a normal user, I was able to successfully compile Sage. It took about 2 to 3 hours, though. For what it's worth, I've written up my work around on the Sage wiki at http://wiki.sagemath.org/faq#Otherquestions The work around is explained in response to the question When I compile Sage my computer beeps and shuts down or hangs. I made a compressed archive file out of the install.log and now I am thinking about where to save is so that it can be linked to. In the meantime maybe the last lines might be significant to you: [Code] make[5]: Entering directory `/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/interfaces/sage' /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H - I. -I../.. -I../.. -I. -I../../linbox -g -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -O2 - DDISABLE_COMMENTATOR -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/ sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -g -fPIC - I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -L/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/lib -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/ spkg/build/linbox-1.1.6/src -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include -D__LINBOX_HAVE_CBLAS -c -o linbox-sage.lo linbox-sage.C mkdir .libs g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I. -I../../linbox -g -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include - O2 -DDISABLE_COMMENTATOR -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/ sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -g - fPIC -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/ include/linbox -L/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/lib -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/ spkg/build/linbox-1.1.6/src -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/spkg/build/ linbox-1.1.6/src/linbox -I/lib/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -I/lib/sage/ sage-3.4/local/include -D__LINBOX_HAVE_CBLAS -c linbox-sage.C -fPIC - DPIC -o .libs/linbox-sage.o [End Code] But please don't put too much effort into helping me make sage run on this old notebook, Michael. I've got two other instances of sage running fine. And I am getting more and more familiar with using the sage notebook online. On the long run this might be better anyway for most purposes. Thanks again and have a nice evening (or whatever time it is now at your location)! -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
