Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-22 Thread Stephan Haller






As I told, yesterday was Bunnik meeting, and as I also commented, a new SAM interface was shown. To be honest: two. The first can be connected only between SAM and PC. The aim is to transfer programs from and to a PC harddisk. Thats the point, Nomad (Stephan) comes in. Stephan presented yesterday a 5 MB 16 colour reduced PC Mpg file running at the SAM from a harddisk (hey presto, a Record has 800K in size... ;-)


This is quite interesting in fact!

Does this allow SAM to treat the PC as an external drive? What sort of transfer speed? Will it work with BDOS - and with an existing Atom powered drive (ie - a CF powered one?)

Very importantly - as a SIAC owner... is the interface big? :)

The interface is really small in size something near 5 x 5 centimeter (I think is around 2,5 inch. Correct me ;) and 2 centimerter height (less than 1 inch if I'm right). But if asked for the box around the board can be removed. So things will be get smaller. Currently nothing works with it because the first one was produced but speed should be the same as hard disk perhaps a little bit higher it not much. I myself think of networking between PC and SAM. Real network. As I'm running Linux on my PC box which does support parallel line IP (aka PLIP) and some nice TCP/IP stacks for the Z80 it should now be possible to connect the SAM to the net via PC (think of router). But to be honest it's all theory at the moment



The reason for Quazar access is now to get the most of the sound which was running with the video file. Stephan will also write the necessary transfer files and he hopes to have them ready to the SPC/Joyce meeting on October 4th, near Cologne.
British readers will notice, that there are a lot of meetings on the continental side


Alan Miles always commented on how more seriously the contintent was for people who really pushed and where interested in their computing... I think of some of the great ideas i've never seen Edwin Blinks ideas on networking SAM and Acorn machines, The ESI sound interface, and others  

but we're working on it. ;)

Stephan Haller




Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-22 Thread David



- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Stephan Haller 
  
  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 7:08 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Bunnik reaults
  
  The interface is really small in size something near 5 x 5 
  centimeter (I think is around 2,5 inch. Correct me ;) and 2 centimerter height 
  (less than 1 inch if I'm right). But if asked for the box around the board can 
  be removed. So things will be get smaller. Currently nothing works with it 
  because the first one was produced but speed should be the same as hard disk 
  perhaps a little bit higher it not much. I myself think of networking between 
  PC and SAM. Real network. As I'm running Linux on my PC box which does support 
  parallel line IP (aka PLIP) and some nice TCP/IP stacks for the Z80 it should 
  now be possible to connect the SAM to the net via PC (think of router). But to 
  be honest it's all theory at the moment

  
That is pretty small - (about 2 
inches) - It sounds pretty exciting indeed - and is something i may want 
myself... space willing



Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-22 Thread Robert van der Veeke
- Original Message -
From: David
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Bunnik reaults

That is pretty small - (about 2 inches) - It sounds pretty exciting indeed -
and is something i may want myself... space willing

---

The PC-ZX interface fits inside a cassette box with only the connectors and
a switch stickin out (about 11 cm wide, and 10 cm from front to back and
from feet to switch it is 3.5 cm high. The Sam-Spectrum Bus is slightly
larger (the models i saw on saturday where fitted inside cigarboxes :)

I hope to scan it tomorrow at my work (don't laugh, this usually works well
with objects that aren't to deep in size, and i have done it before with
other pcb's).

I have a PC-ZX interface at home, wich i am going to show at the HCC-dagen
and i will have leaflets ready to hand out on the HCC-dagen on how to order
or to obtain information , normally Johan Koelman would do that himself, but
around that time, at the end of november he will have become a daddy, so he
then has his mind on other things (like crying babies at night, changing
diapers and such :)

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Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-22 Thread Wolfgang Haller

Hi again.

If you have SAM Interface one (which can be connected with the ZXPC 
interface) you have to add 13 cm wide and 11,5 cm deep from front to 
back and 4,5 cm high (I held in it my hand few moments ago). It´s right: 
The ZX interface is made in a cassette box and the SAM ones in a cigar 
box. This was because to make it as cheap as possible. For those who 
wants to convert measures: 1 inch = 2,54 cm.


SAM interface two (the direct one): I have no measures and the only one 
who had it (prototype!) is Stephan. I think the measures are in the same 
size as above, it looks af if it was the same cigar box ;-)


However, both can get changed as Stephan told when will be fitted 
outside the box. In case of interface one where you need both (SAM and 
Spectrum) I suppose it is possible to get both in one box when put one 
to each other (someone who did a SAM in a case should have no problem 
with it).


Robert, you need not to scan them. I have pics of all versions done with 
my digital camera at my home and on several meetings, and I will send it 
to those who are interested and to whom I have promised to do. And there 
are some. Seems as if this message did a rumble in the SAM scene ;-) - 
But if you scan it, I am interested in a picture


It´s right, the development came from Johan Koelman who will become a 
daddy next month (my best wishes, I remember myself at sleepless nights 
and changing diapers...). I think about to set the theme next week to my 
webside and tell when it is ready.


Robert again: Will see you at the HCC days on Saturday 29th November. As 
I told you yesterday I am not very satisfy with the manual of 
SAMpaint... and my plan is to supplement it with pictures (which 
sometimes says more than words). A bit much of things in mind yet, but 
to keep it with Yukari: Crap! He´s a german :-)


All SAMmers a good start into the next week
Wolfgang




Robert van der Veeke wrote:


- Original Message -
From: David
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Bunnik reaults

That is pretty small - (about 2 inches) - It sounds pretty exciting indeed -
and is something i may want myself... space willing

---

The PC-ZX interface fits inside a cassette box with only the connectors and
a switch stickin out (about 11 cm wide, and 10 cm from front to back and
from feet to switch it is 3.5 cm high. The Sam-Spectrum Bus is slightly
larger (the models i saw on saturday where fitted inside cigarboxes :)

I hope to scan it tomorrow at my work (don't laugh, this usually works well
with objects that aren't to deep in size, and i have done it before with
other pcb's).

I have a PC-ZX interface at home, wich i am going to show at the HCC-dagen
and i will have leaflets ready to hand out on the HCC-dagen on how to order
or to obtain information , normally Johan Koelman would do that himself, but
around that time, at the end of november he will have become a daddy, so he
then has his mind on other things (like crying babies at night, changing
diapers and such :)

--
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Currently listening to: Perfect Rouge - Samply Red

Yukari: Crap! He's German!


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Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-22 Thread Wolfgang Haller




Hello Colin.

Off course I like to do, but first I have to write it...

Is SAM Revival issue 6 out now? I miss it...

Best wishes
Wolfgang
(later more)



Colin Piggot wrote:

  
A report of the Bunnik meeting  with pictures of the IFs will 
be in the SPC magazin (off course) and if Colin wants 
also in SR. 

  
  
Please do pass it on to me Wolfgang :)

Colin

Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Coupe
Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
Issue Six of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out in 7 Days!

  






Bunnik reaults

2003-09-21 Thread Wolfgang Haller




Hello SAMmers.

As I told, yesterday was Bunnik meeting, and as I also commented, a new SAM
interface was shown. To be honest: two. The first can be connected only between
SAM and PC. The aim is to transfer programs from and to a PC harddisk. Thats
the point, Nomad (Stephan) comes in. Stephan presented yesterday a 5 MB 16
colour reduced PC Mpg file running at the SAM from a harddisk (hey presto,
a Record has 800K in size... ;-)
The reason for Quazar access is now to get the most of the sound which was
running with the video file. Stephan will also write the necessary transfer
files and he hopes to have them ready to the SPC/Joyce meeting on October
4th, near Cologne.
British readers will notice, that there are a lot of meetings on the "continental"
side

The other interface makes use of a one to one connection to the Spectrum
bus. With it you can do the same as above, but you have to add the SpectrumPC
interface described in a lot of the SPC Magazines (WoMo mag, yes its mine!
Since 1990!). A fine side effect is, that you can use a Kempston Joystick
interface at the bus which works fine, we have tested it yesterday while
playing "Raid over Moscow". Also Currah Microspeech is in my imagination
and has to be tested. It´s amazing

Maybe good news too. Martijn Groen works (again) on a Windows orientatded
desktop for the SAM and Robert van der Veeke will do the grafic. In one of
Gavins first SAM Community mags I first have written about, but know it seems
to keep on.

To David: Yes, I come to Norwich meeting However, I will bring my main
harddisk and the interfaces with me, but not my SAM or a Laptop (to be honest,
I have not a Laptop...). So if I can use anybodies SAM and/or Laptop there
I will show whats going on. A report of the Bunnik meeting with pictures
of the IFs will be in the SPC magazin (off course) and if Colin wants also
in SR. The "WoMo" mag is bi-lingual (german with english short description
or vice versa), the SAM sides are always in english. If interest mail me
for a free mag and all informations about SPC and price of the magazines:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So, that s my plot (I am in hurry, so please excuse errors in english).
Have a nice day
Wolfgang
(Leader Spectrum  SAM Profi Club Cologne and Editor)




David wrote:

  
Has somebody a good comet snippet how to access a Quazar for playing

  
  digitized sound. I would like to support the Quazar in my soon-completed
application which will be capable of playing digitized music (aka samples ;)
.

Great! An new piece of software is always welcomed!

BTW - any one know how to subscribe to the WoMo mag? And is much of it in
English?


  
  
I do not own a Quazar and Simcoupe does currently not support the Quazar

  
  add-on (Simon?). But I should easily add Quazar support if somebody (perhaps
Colin?) would send me a small Comet file.

Colins a helpful chap - I'm sure he'll help you!


  






Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-21 Thread David





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Wolfgang 
  Haller 
  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 1:20 
  PM
  Subject: Bunnik reaults
  
  Hello SAMmers.As I told, yesterday was Bunnik meeting, and as I 
  also commented, a new SAM interface was shown. To be honest: two. The first 
  can be connected only between SAM and PC. The aim is to transfer programs from 
  and to a PC harddisk. Thats the point, Nomad (Stephan) comes in. Stephan 
  presented yesterday a 5 MB 16 colour reduced PC Mpg file running at the SAM 
  from a harddisk (hey presto, a Record has 800K in size... ;-)
  
This is quite interesting in fact!

Does this allow SAM to treat the PC as an external 
drive? What sort of transfer speed? Will it work with BDOS - and with an 
existing Atom powered drive (ie - a CF powered one?)

Very importantly - as a SIAC owner... is the 
interface big? :)

  The reason for Quazar access is now to get the most of the sound 
  which was running with the video file. Stephan will also write the necessary 
  transfer files and he hopes to have them ready to the SPC/Joyce meeting on 
  October 4th, near Cologne.British readers will notice, that there are a 
  lot of meetings on the "continental" side
Alan Miles always commented on how more seriously 
"the contintent" was for people who really pushed and where interested in their 
computing... I think of some of the great ideas i've never seen Edwin Blinks 
ideas on networking SAM and Acorn machines, The ESI sound interface, and others 
 

  The other interface makes use of a one to one connection to the 
  Spectrum bus. With it you can do the same as above, but you have to add the 
  SpectrumPC interface described in a lot of the SPC Magazines (WoMo 
  mag, yes its mine! Since 1990!). A fine side effect is, that you can use a 
  Kempston Joystick interface at the bus which works fine, we have tested it 
  yesterday while playing "Raid over Moscow". Also Currah Microspeech is in my 
  imagination and has to be tested. It´s amazing
This is certainly facsinating stuff!!! I wish I 
could make it "over there" some time :(

  Maybe good news too. Martijn Groen works (again) on a Windows 
  orientatded desktop for the SAM and Robert van der Veeke will do the grafic. 
  In one of Gavins first SAM Community mags I first have written about, but know 
  it seems to keep on.
These things take time to write... but Martijn 
 Robert are both brilliant people - so I'm sure it'll be worth 
it!

Going back to Samco - I remember many people 
looking at SAM Wimps... and Driver 2 - which never sadly appeared - was going to 
be an amazing one as well Does anyone recall this? Cookie? Anyone else? 
Steve Taylor was chatting about this at some length back from a Gloucester 
show... (I think the one where Entropy took the piss out of Bob! 
:)

  To David: Yes, I come to Norwich meeting However, I will bring my 
  main harddisk and the interfaces with me, but not my SAM or a Laptop (to be 
  honest, I have not a Laptop...). So if I can use anybodies SAM and/or Laptop 
  there I will show whats going on. A report of the Bunnik meeting with pictures 
  of the IFs will be in the SPC magazin (off course) and if Colin wants also in 
  SR. The "WoMo" mag is bi-lingual (german with english short description or 
  vice versa), the SAM sides are always in english. If interest mail me for a 
  free mag and all informations about SPC and price of the magazines: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Consider you mailed! :)

I think Colin has at least one spare SAM he's 
taking to sell... perhaps he can assist?
So, 
that s my plot (I am in hurry, so please excuse errors in english).Have a 
nice dayWolfgang(Leader Spectrum  SAM Profi Club Cologne and 
Editor)




Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-21 Thread Robert van der Veeke

- Original Message -
From: Wolfgang Haller
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Bunnik reaults

To add mine as well, first of all Rijkswaterstaat (the department of
public works) has a funny definition of The end of september, so they have
already started working on the A12 in the Netherlands, instead of arriving
at 10.30 (i was already late because i overslept) Martijn and i got there
around 12.00. So for a change we where the last to arrived instead of being
one of the first as usual.

Indeed on display, the Sam-Spectrum-bus, weird to see a Spectrum Kempston
interface working on a Sam, but even better was the PC-ZX interface working
with that Sam-Spectrum-Bus. Again something usefull for PC to do, acting as
a file-server for the Sam.

And indeed we are working on a GUI for use with B-dos and a Atom, but don't
hold your breath for it, we are hoping to show at least an Alpha version on
the HCC-dagen wich are being held at last weekend of november in Utrecht
(Note: Rijkswaterstaat will still be working on the A12, take alternative
route).

The HCC-dagen is another thing that take some time, since i am also one of
those responsible in organising this on behalf of the HCC-Sinclair Users
Group, i spend yesterday more time on it than i had actually planned, sorry
for that, but i will make up for that once the HCC-dagen are there :)
For more info on the HCC-dagen, http://www.hccdagen.nl/

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Robert van der Veeke
Currently listening to: Perfect Rouge - Samply Red

Yukari: Crap! He's German!


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Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-21 Thread Colin Piggot
 Indeed on display, the Sam-Spectrum-bus, weird to see a Spectrum Kempston
 interface working on a Sam,

Sounds very much like what Alan Miles had mentioned years ago when the Sam
was still in development - an adaptor to plug Spectrum hardware into the
Sam.

And we know Mike AJ had done the same way back in the early 1990's to use a
Videoface Spectrum digitiser on the Sam. David let me know about that one
for a Sam Snippet in issue 3 of SR. All quite interesting stuff.

Colin

Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Coupe
Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
Issue Six of Sam Revival Magazine Out in 7 Days!


Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-21 Thread Colin Piggot
 A report of the Bunnik meeting  with pictures of the IFs will 
 be in the SPC magazin (off course) and if Colin wants 
 also in SR. 

Please do pass it on to me Wolfgang :)

Colin

Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Coupe
Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
Issue Six of Sam Revival Magazine Out in 7 Days!


Re: Bunnik reaults

2003-09-21 Thread David

- Original Message -
From: Robert van der Veeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Bunnik reaults



 - Original Message -
 From: Wolfgang Haller
 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:20 PM
 Subject: Bunnik reaults

 To add mine as well, first of all Rijkswaterstaat (the department of
 public works) has a funny definition of The end of september, so they
have
 already started working on the A12 in the Netherlands, instead of arriving
 at 10.30 (i was already late because i overslept) Martijn and i got there
 around 12.00. So for a change we where the last to arrived instead of
being
 one of the first as usual.

The same thing has happened to me on more shows than I can remember! :)

 Indeed on display, the Sam-Spectrum-bus, weird to see a Spectrum Kempston
 interface working on a Sam, but even better was the PC-ZX interface
working
 with that Sam-Spectrum-Bus. Again something usefull for PC to do, acting
as
 a file-server for the Sam.

Ah - I understand. The PC-ZX interface itself is a very clever Spectrum
interface, which is remapped by use of the SAM-Spectrum Bus interface?
Sounds like a good idea really... Does this work with other Spectrum
hardware? Is the interface itself pretty big?

 And indeed we are working on a GUI for use with B-dos and a Atom, but
don't
 hold your breath for it, we are hoping to show at least an Alpha version
on
 the HCC-dagen wich are being held at last weekend of november in Utrecht
 (Note: Rijkswaterstaat will still be working on the A12, take alternative
 route).

A good GUI is something I would buy ... the Driver was good (despite having
its faults...) but I'm sure something could be done much better... specially
if it was designed with a hard drive in mind :)

 The HCC-dagen is another thing that take some time, since i am also one of
 those responsible in organising this on behalf of the HCC-Sinclair Users
 Group, i spend yesterday more time on it than i had actually planned,
sorry
 for that, but i will make up for that once the HCC-dagen are there :)
 For more info on the HCC-dagen, http://www.hccdagen.nl/

I'm afraid my language skills are rather crap :( But I'll try and follow
that via Babelfish :)


 --
 Robert van der Veeke
 Currently listening to: Perfect Rouge - Samply Red

Excellent news - seems you and Martijn are rather busy! :)

Regard

David