Re: OT: Celery, Athlon and other vegetables (was: RE: My take on the SAM Scene)
David What the hell are you one about? It's George here !! Out in Failraki Rhodes, Greece, working for the summer!!! Very hot! How's Michael? How are you R.S.V.P George --- David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BP6 board and the two chips cost me =A3205 inc VAT, which is pretty incredible bang for buck - who needs to save up? ;-) How much are Athlo= ns? only 195 + the dreaded v word ! === George __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Celery, Athlon and other vegetables (was: RE: My take on the SAM Scene)
The BP6 board and the two chips cost me =A3205 inc VAT, which is pretty incredible bang for buck - who needs to save up? ;-) How much are Athlo= ns? only 195 + the dreaded v word !
OT: Celery, Athlon and other vegetables (was: RE: My take on the SAM Scene)
Dave L wrote: After seeing how many Abit boards are dealt with via our returns department - I wouldn't recommend this to anyone! Then you've been very unlucky - my last 4 boards have been ABit (HX-LX-BH-BP) and I've not had any problems. General review sites also speak highly of them. What sort of problems do you get with them? Just get an Athlon instead if you want a DECENT bit of power at a reasonable cost ;) And dual-550 isn't decent? Uniprocessor in Win98 is fast enough, but it flies under NT and Linux (kernel compile in under 2 mins). (Guess what I'm saving up for?!) The BP6 board and the two chips cost me £205 inc VAT, which is pretty incredible bang for buck - who needs to save up? ;-) How much are Athlons? Si
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
After seeing how many Abit boards are dealt with via our returns department - I wouldn't recommend this to anyone! Just get an Athlon instead if you want a DECENT bit of power at a reasonable cost ;) david (Guess what I'm saving up for?!) - Original Message - From: Si Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:08 AM Subject: RE: My take on the SAM Scene Dave L wrote: The only reason for shopping around for a Celery adaptor is if u want one of the modified ones for Clocking or dual process use... I highly recommend the ABit BP6 for a ready to go dual-Slot370 motherboard - I've got 2 C366s running happily at 550 in one, with little more than a few changes in the BIOS settings. Si
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
Gordon Wallis wrote: Martin Wilson wrote: [snip] Well special reserve still have 3do software at £3.99 On the subject of Special Reserve I'm well annoyed with them. I ordered a slot 1 converter from them on a sunday then quickly discovered about a half hour later that their price was about three times that of another supplier. So I went back to the special reserve site to find the sales department email address like you would for many internet shopping sites but there isn't one. I used the webmasters email address to cancel the slot 1 converter but they still sent it anyway or at least it now says on the site it has been despatched. I couldn't believe its a truly crap internet shopping site. To be honest its completely put me off special reserve I probably won't shop there again unless I see a mega bargain. I don't like this sort of thing. Theres bound to be questions, complications etc occasionally so why no contact email addresses?
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
The only reason for shopping around for a Celery adaptor is if u want one of the modified ones for Clocking or dual process use... If not, we do them at work for 5 ex vat ;) David (Actually - think they are duel processor ready!) - Original Message - From: Martin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 10:39 PM Subject: Re: My take on the SAM Scene Gordon Wallis wrote: Martin Wilson wrote: [snip] Well special reserve still have 3do software at £3.99 On the subject of Special Reserve I'm well annoyed with them. I ordered a slot 1 converter from them on a sunday then quickly discovered about a half hour later that their price was about three times that of another supplier. So I went back to the special reserve site to find the sales department email address like you would for many internet shopping sites but there isn't one. I used the webmasters email address to cancel the slot 1 converter but they still sent it anyway or at least it now says on the site it has been despatched. I couldn't believe its a truly crap internet shopping site. To be honest its completely put me off special reserve I probably won't shop there again unless I see a mega bargain. I don't like this sort of thing. Theres bound to be questions, complications etc occasionally so why no contact email addresses?
RE: My take on the SAM Scene
Dave L wrote: The only reason for shopping around for a Celery adaptor is if u want one of the modified ones for Clocking or dual process use... I highly recommend the ABit BP6 for a ready to go dual-Slot370 motherboard - I've got 2 C366s running happily at 550 in one, with little more than a few changes in the BIOS settings. Si
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
Martin Wilson wrote: I must admit I do like my games but hate spending money. I can pick up game for my Saturn and 3DO for just a few pounds (£3.99 for example) Two questions: Where?! and Got 'Policenauts' yet? Gord. (the Policenauts fanatic) -- The HEXdidn't... Homepage: -- Featuring The U.K. Policenauts Homepage -- http://www.hexdidnt.clara.net \-- AOL Instant Messenger: 'hexdidnt' --/
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
Gordon Wallis wrote: Martin Wilson wrote: I must admit I do like my games but hate spending money. I can pick up game for my Saturn and 3DO for just a few pounds (£3.99 for example) Two questions: Where?! and Got 'Policenauts' yet? Gord. (the Policenauts fanatic) Well special reserve still have 3do software at £3.99 Saturn stuff is being cleared out in the high st by some Game and EB stores. I've seen it as low as 99p for an early football game. Better bundles have been stuff like Quake/duke nukem £15 for the pair. If you've got a Saturn I've got Alien Trilogy,Alone in the dark and blast chamber up for swop. After hexen and starfighter amongst others. I don't know what policenauts is?
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
For more on policenauts - see Gordons site!!! - Original Message - From: Martin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 10:42 PM Subject: Re: My take on the SAM Scene Gordon Wallis wrote: Martin Wilson wrote: I must admit I do like my games but hate spending money. I can pick up game for my Saturn and 3DO for just a few pounds (£3.99 for example) Two questions: Where?! and Got 'Policenauts' yet? Gord. (the Policenauts fanatic) Well special reserve still have 3do software at £3.99 Saturn stuff is being cleared out in the high st by some Game and EB stores. I've seen it as low as 99p for an early football game. Better bundles have been stuff like Quake/duke nukem £15 for the pair. If you've got a Saturn I've got Alien Trilogy,Alone in the dark and blast chamber up for swop. After hexen and starfighter amongst others. I don't know what policenauts is?
RE: My take on the SAM Scene
Nick Humphries wrote: Single figure sales and no commitment to rereleasing or compilations means that these titles are not marketable anymore, so is there any good reason for not putting them onto an FTP site? It's not surprising sales are low as they're impossible to get hold of! It'd be sad to see some of them being given away when there are a few of us that are still interested in paying for them, if they could find where to buy them from. Could we build a list of known titles and where they can be bought from? Have places like Fred/Persona got full control over certain titles? Are they open for business or when are they expected to be? etc. Si
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
Martin Wilson wrote: [snip] Well special reserve still have 3do software at £3.99 Hm. Just think, if I'd actually got a 3DO, I'd be able to buy _that_ version of Policenauts, too! Quite a good version, too, being the 'original' (apart from the PC9821 version which came out the year before) Saturn stuff is being cleared out in the high st by some Game and EB stores. I've seen it as low as 99p for an early football game. Better bundles have been stuff like Quake/duke nukem £15 for the pair. I think I've got all the UK software I'm after, though I often turn up interesting curiosities in Computer Exchange... Most of the stuff that's still on the shelves in Game or EB is stuff I can easily live without. If you've got a Saturn I've got Alien Trilogy,Alone in the dark and blast chamber up for swop. After hexen and starfighter amongst others. You might try http://www.next-gen.co.uk - I'm fairly sure I saw at least one of those two in their stock, possibly both. They also buy 2nd hand, I think. I don't know what policenauts is? Briefly, it's an interactive anime (with shooting bits) by Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear series), set on a huge space colony in the year 2040. It's often called the prequel to Snatcher, but they're not connected, strictly speaking. Unfortunately, the PS/SS English translations were canned when about 90% complete. Not sure if the 3DO got an English version, but it's unlikely. Gord. -- The HEXdidn't... Homepage: -- Featuring The U.K. Policenauts Homepage -- http://www.hexdidnt.clara.net \-- AOL Instant Messenger: 'hexdidnt' --/
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
On 16 Aug 99, at 10:12, Nick Humphries wrote: * How many new SAMs are being sold a month? Even if we knew the figures - which we are never likely to find out - the real question should be how many new SAMs are being sold to _new users_ each month? I'd hazard that most of the new machines sold are bought by people replacing their old ones. How on earth are we to expect new users to come to the machine when there is no publicity for it? There is no excuse for whoever holds the rights to the production of the SAM (Bob I think?) not to have website at the very least with the latest prices etc. I'm sure there would be loads of people ready to help him put one up there - I would be one. And what better way to put the word around about the SAM than by getting a decent emulator like SIMCoupe freely distributed among the PC world. The same kind of thing worked for the C64 and Speccy - people are actively huntuing down the orignial machines to run the software on. If we're talking about single figures here (or even zero) then it's time to start seriously thinking about accepting a combined future with SimCoupe. It would surprise me if there have been more than ten sold in the last year. * How many units of any particular software title are being sold a month? * Is there any possibility of the older titles being rereleased either on a compilation or separately. Now that is perhaps a very valid point. There would be a great demand for, say , The Enigma Collection or Pop, Lemmings and ONML all in the one pack. If the people who hold their licences still want to try and feed their families on the back of SAM Software sales, then this is the way forward. If not, let's get some stuff up on the FTP site. Hats off to Bob for getting the ball rolling with Outwrite - the best word processor the SAM has seen. I'm not sure how to get stuff onto the FTP - which was decided as the best format? Meanwhile, if anybody would like to help me get a SAM website cobbled together similar to World Of Spectrum then please private mail me - I'll be after screenshots, articles, reviews, links etc. But it's all got to be brand new stuff. I'm only starting on the idea now, and like everything I do it will probably take forever to get to completion, but I'd like to see the whole thing up to celebrate Happy 10th Birthday for Mr Coupe. Let me know. Peace, Love and Kisses, JohnnaPig Teare http://www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk It won't get better but it might never get worse...
Re: My take on the SAM Scene
Re-releasing could be the way forward. After eight years or so, Prince of Persia simply isn't worth £9.99 in today's market. Back in the Spectrum days, games got re-released about four years after its original release (and the period got shorter towards the end of the Spectrum era, sometimes down to the order of a few months). Why haven't the SAM software sellers followed suit? An uncharitable mind would put it down to greed, to squeeze every last penny out of the SAM market. Put PoP et al out for £2.99 or £3.99 and you'd sell a few copies. Create three or four game compilations and put them out for a tenner and you'll make some more money. In a games market which is very probably non-existent, any sales are better than none at all. Nick I must admit I do like my games but hate spending money. I can pick up game for my Saturn and 3DO for just a few pounds (£3.99 for example) and therefore can't actually see Sam games being worth much at all now. Back when I first got my Sam it was competing quite reasonably with the scene at the time which was ST, Amiga, Specturm, CPC, C64 and perhaps Sega Master System but now it obviously doesn't compete. I know people will shoot me down in flames for this but I dont' think Sam games have any real commercial value now. I mean some of those Sega Master System games cost a good fraction of a million to develop but the Master system is a completely dead format now. Take the ST scene, this is almost completely dead too but ST commercial games are available easily over the internet. Perhaps we ought to compile a list of all the stuff we each have and then start making dsk files from them making sure we are not duplicating our efforts. I'm sure I can get a good fast ftp UK site with enough capacity for all of it. A friend works at ukonline and I won't have any problem getting space there. UkOnline is part of Easynet and they have some damn fast servers. Perhaps I can sort it so about six of us have full access to upload to the site and we can share maintenance and credit for it. Once we've sorted out the uploading we can start giving it a nice html front end.
