Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:17:43 -0700, you wrote: ... and on that note... what's everyone up to these days? I'm writing photo editing software for Sierra, having just finished working on Generations back in December (woohoo! we're the top Sierra/Vivendi productivity title in the UK!!!). Currently I'm trying to work out if I can use DirectDraw to do a photoeditor. Might be fun - and very very snappy :) Beat that, oh Apple Benchmarketers :) I'm Sys/Network Admin for a company called Insight, and were currently in the middle of a move to Sheffield, into the server room space of PlusNet, our sister company, so that means plent of late nights for me moving servers around and sorting all that type stuff out :(... but a nice connection to the internet ;o) -- Dean Liversidge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
- Original Message - From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? From: Paul Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Still working for a semiconductor company; I work in the bit making the drivers for the set top box hardware we make. It's okay, except when (as now) you have cells that are seriously screwed up. Oh cool :) (UDMA and MWDMA that you effectively can't use! Woohoo!) How come you're at Sierra now, anyway? Last I saw a mail from you, you were at ... wherever you went after Microsoft. ... which was Sierra :) (well, Sierra Home... same difference for now... although officially we're VUIPNA - vivendi universal interactive publishing north america) Sounds more like something you can get treated by a cream at the doctors :)
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
From: Paul Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Re: VUIPNA] A name that just trips off the tongue. ;-) Literally, rather than figuratively. Every time you read it or say it, it feels like it just dusted itself off and told everyone I'm okay! Simon
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From: David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... which was Sierra :) (well, Sierra Home... same difference for now... although officially we're VUIPNA - vivendi universal interactive publishing north america) Sounds more like something you can get treated by a cream at the doctors :) Yup. I hate the name, but there you go :( This is why we're Sierra Home, but get paid by VUIPNA (which sounds like a health insurance company) Si
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
- Original Message - From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:07 AM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? From: David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... which was Sierra :) (well, Sierra Home... same difference for now... although officially we're VUIPNA - vivendi universal interactive publishing north america) Sounds more like something you can get treated by a cream at the doctors :) Yup. I hate the name, but there you go :( This is why we're Sierra Home, but get paid by VUIPNA (which sounds like a health insurance company) So long as they're paying loads of dosh! ;)
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 09:57 pm, Nev Young wrote: No quibble apart from a broken leg? :) I sent an IDE interface back to you one time cos I couldn't get it to work and you were good to your word and helped me best you could. You examined it and said there was nothing wrong with it and as I changed the cable etc, I thought the fault was with my SAMmy. Turns out it was the power supply you supplied - looks like it's working, spins up the hard drive etc, just fails to provide enough power to read the data off the disk reliably :) Only found this out last year when I tried using the supply for the Atom interface. Send it back and I'll refund your money. Nah, I didn't mean it like that and I don't even know where it is now anyway, it was just a little story to get away from the subject of Bob for a sec :) Thanks anyway! Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
You know, the amount he gets talked about, anyone'd think Bob Brenchley was the only interesting thing ever to happen on this lis- (Ah.) I'll get me coat. Mark _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
- Original Message - From: Mark Sturdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? You know, the amount he gets talked about, anyone'd think Bob Brenchley was the only interesting thing ever to happen on this lis- I remember something about a computer once?
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
Errr, who was Bob Brenchley anyway ? lol
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:30:11AM +0100, David Ledbury wrote: Slander I can't forgive. Don't wish him harm - particularly if he's ill - but I cant forgive him though. Who said anything about forgive? :-) -- Paul It is by Perl alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the regex of Larry that the code acquires flexibility, the flexibility enables obscurity, the obscurity generates a warning. It is by Perl alone I set my mind in motion. -- stolen from Calle Dybedahl's .signature, in the SDM
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
- Original Message - From: Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. That explains the odd postings I found a while ago under Ken Elston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Bob and I fell out a few times over his use of multiple personas which I did, and still do, feel is wrong. I tried to treat it as a game but with hindsight I see that many here did not think it was a good game. It may have been intended that way - but it's a bit like creating people to back you up ... a bit easy to abuse as it turned out ;( Now that so much time has passed I don't have any qualms about saying what I believe to be the truth, but as I said elsewhere, even I don't know the whole story. When I first started on-line Bob let me use the samsboss account on pipeline as the news feed from my own isp was crap, hence many people thought I was samsboss. I believe that he was also Bill Ritman but I never got him to admit that to me. Again IIRC Ritman is his uncle or some such aquaintance. Figures. I never said any of that. You've not seen me, you never heard it from me. OK :-) My lips are sealed
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
- Original Message - From: David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:44 AM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? - Original Message - From: Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. That explains the odd postings I found a while ago under Ken Elston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Talking of who - just having great fun reading an old posting in CSS from Bob et al ;) http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offth=8bbe51e3ca248673,100start =0 Good bit of verbal action :)
RE: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 10:17:43PM -0700, Simon Cooke wrote: ... and on that note... what's everyone up to these days? I'm writing photo editing software for Sierra, having just finished working on Generations I'm still writing linux drivers for lots of 'puter telephony stuff.. much fun. Justin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. (etc...) Oh, shut up. Yes he was utterly infuriating at times, and probably living in a complete fantasy world - all in all, a pretty silly man - but I've never seen why that makes him so worth getting wound up about. My feeling on people STILL gnashing their teeth about the fact that he pissed various people about in the mid-90s, failed to make West Coast Computers bigger than Apple, and then made various things up in attempts to explain this, is the same as it was last time I left this list 3 years ago - vis, that they could possibly do to get out a bit more. Get a grip, Gavin. Mark PS I agree, The Weekly is very good. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:40:13 +0100, Mark Sturdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Frank Broughton...? We did find this one out. A Welsh relation, possibly a cousin IIRC. A couple of us even tried to track him down, I think we worked out he was a farmer or something. Right... So if he was in Wales, who was at 44 Buddle Lane Exeter or whatever? Either Bob's mum or sis sister-in-law. Bob is originally from Exeter. Not sure but I think s-i-l's maiden name or 2nd married name was Broughton. She was / is a babe though. -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:21:26 +0100, Dave Whitmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:51 +0100 Wed, 15 Aug 01 19:18:40 BST, Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Is Bob's real name Elston then? Or is he a real you-know-what-I-mean, instead of someone who just acts like one? :-) Or was it his dad's forename + mum's maiden name. Does it matter ? And was it you, or Bob who wrote to me telling me Samsboss' name was 'Brian'... haha.. almost had me fooled that did. It didn't sound like Bob at all, unless he was exercising multiple personalities as well. I can neither admit or deny this. A bad memory can be useful at times :-) -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:59 +0100, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gavin PS Community service Nev?! What did you do? ;) I broke some little toerag's leg in a few places. Long story you don't want to know and I don't want to remember. Just don't make me angry, you won't like me if I'm angry. -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:47:14 +0100, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought Exeter was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;) I thought you lot shot each other (sorry !!!) You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. I (and I know others) had many heated arguments with him off this list (a few on the list too), and the things he came out with to defend his lies still make me angry. He was frankly full of crap (and this in no way says anything bad about you Nev as the once or twice I've bought something from you or spoken to you and from your posts on this list, I've always thought you were a nice chap). Well one thing I soon sorted out with S D Software was a no quibble full momey refund. Apart from a major bug in unidos that nearly broke me when I had to pay back a few hundred quid. But that work out ok cos when the bug was fixed those people all bought the new one cos I was such a nice chap. Of course, it also explains why I'm not rich :-) -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 10:09 pm, Mark Sturdy wrote: You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. (etc...) Oh, shut up. Yes he was utterly infuriating at times, and probably living in a complete fantasy world - all in all, a pretty silly man - but I've never seen why that makes him so worth getting wound up about. My feeling on people STILL gnashing their teeth about the fact that he pissed various people about in the mid-90s, failed to make West Coast Computers bigger than Apple, and then made various things up in attempts to explain this, is the same as it was last time I left this list 3 years ago - vis, that they could possibly do to get out a bit more. Get a grip, Gavin. Er I've got a grip, I was simply pointing out that for once we have confirmation and all the times he f*cked people over, ripped them off, owed them money and denied it, slagged them off in public, lied about them...and now we know we were in the right (at least on this issue). I mean can you remember just how long all this crap went on for? I'm entitled to two sentences to say how I feel about him now. Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 12:18 am, Paul Walker wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:04:00AM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote: mean can you remember just how long all this crap went on for? I'm entitled to two sentences to say how I feel about him now. Actually, I'm with Mark on this; I'm surprised you feel anything about him now. It's a long time ago this happened; Bob, Format, the Sam, etc. aren't relevant to anything any longer. Let him go, forget him, otherwise you're just wasting energy thinking about him. God, I only said two sentences! :) It's not like I lie awake thinking about him! *shudder* And this is a SAM mailing list and as he was one of the biggest figures in the scene, people are bound to talk about him. Oh and the SAM, irrelevant as you might think it is. So stop worrying about me, I'm alright ;) Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
- Original Message - From: Paul Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:04:00AM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote: mean can you remember just how long all this crap went on for? I'm entitled to two sentences to say how I feel about him now. Actually, I'm with Mark on this; I'm surprised you feel anything about him now. It's a long time ago this happened; Bob, Format, the Sam, etc. aren't relevant to anything any longer. Let him go, forget him, otherwise you're just wasting energy thinking about him. Slander I can't forgive. Don't wish him harm - particularly if he's ill - but I cant forgive him though.
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 10:44 pm, Nev Young wrote: Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought Exeter was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;) I thought you lot shot each other (sorry !!!) Haven't you heard about the ceasefire? *coughs* Well one thing I soon sorted out with S D Software was a no quibble full momey refund. Apart from a major bug in unidos that nearly broke me when I had to pay back a few hundred quid. But that work out ok cos when the bug was fixed those people all bought the new one cos I was such a nice chap. No quibble apart from a broken leg? :) I sent an IDE interface back to you one time cos I couldn't get it to work and you were good to your word and helped me best you could. You examined it and said there was nothing wrong with it and as I changed the cable etc, I thought the fault was with my SAMmy. Turns out it was the power supply you supplied - looks like it's working, spins up the hard drive etc, just fails to provide enough power to read the data off the disk reliably :) Only found this out last year when I tried using the supply for the Atom interface. Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
From: Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. The CHEEK of it! Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to switch the SAM into Spectrum mode. Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken Elston. And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off. There's not that many ways to write that switch code (it's only 15 bytes or so)... but really Si
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 03:31 am, Simon Cooke wrote: Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to switch the SAM into Spectrum mode. Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken Elston. And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off. Now come on Simon! How do we know that Ken *didn't* write it? ;) Gavin (Planning on going to bed some time night - maybe)
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 04:15 am, Simon Cooke wrote: From: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 03:31 am, Simon Cooke wrote: Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to switch the SAM into Spectrum mode. Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken Elston. And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off. Now come on Simon! How do we know that Ken *didn't* write it? ;) It's perfectly possible. Although what I'd like to know is why he said that *I* plagiarised him. I'd always assumed that it was because it was such a short piece of code that it was easy to duplicate by accident. Now, maybe, I have to consider that he ripped it off from me - otherwise why would Bob arrogantly start bitching about me ripping it off from a *fictitious* person? Simon, I was only joking mate! :) I'm sure you did write it, and if Bob had written it too, I'm sure he would have been more than glad to publish it under his own name, rather than using a pseudonym (after all, we were always pushing him to back up his claims of his coding abilities, which he never did to my knowledge). I was being sarcastic Si :) Gavin (REALLY thinking about bed now)
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From: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simon, I was only joking mate! :) I'm sure you did write it, and if Bob
had written it too, I'm sure he would have been more than glad to
publish it under his own name, rather than using a pseudonym (after all,
we were always pushing him to back up his claims of his coding
abilities, which he never did to my knowledge). I was being sarcastic
Si :)
Gavin
(REALLY thinking about bed now)
*grins* I know you were joking :) I was supposed to be replying in a half
serious, half joking fashion, but it may have come across wrong. (I've had 9
hours of sleep or so in the last two days thanks to the Sierra layoffs...
sheesh... and I always get a bit... weird if I don't get enough sleep these
days. Call it nervous exhaustion. Call it bad comic timing. Call it...
well... erm... something!)
Speaking of which... *phew* I've still got a job. Thank god. I wish I could
say the same for 245 other people. :( This is the second time in less than a
year... I hope the economy stops stalling soon and levels out a bit.
... and on that note... what's everyone up to these days? I'm writing photo
editing software for Sierra, having just finished working on Generations
back in December (woohoo! we're the top Sierra/Vivendi productivity title in
the UK!!!). Currently I'm trying to work out if I can use DirectDraw to do a
photoeditor. Might be fun - and very very snappy :) Beat that, oh Apple
Benchmarketers :)
Other than that... although the site's not up yet (but the domain is), I'm
working on some other stuff - namely filming :)
http://www.popcornfilms.com is where the action will be eventually. We've
already done one thing ('The Sensual Art of Poledancing', believe it or not,
which me a friend edited up and aired on Public Access [think Wayne's
World, but real life] on Monday), but that's under a different name - we
don't want to give the wrong impression if we make it big :)
Until then though... desperately trying to come up with an idea for a 5
minute short to get on the Sci-Fi channel.
Slight problem though... our producer[1] *did* get laid off, and may be
moving to Texas. Quite how a guy like Chris survives in Texas, I don't know.
I would have thought that the last place you'd want to go if you were (a)
loudmouthed and (b) black would be the highly racist/stuck-in-a-timewarp
Deep South. But hey... I wish him well.
Si
[1] I'm director/editor/screenwriter/lighting/grip, my partner in this
wonderful venture Steve is
cinematographer/lighting/sound/screenwriter/executive producer (which I
guess, strictly, we all are...), and Chris is
cinematographer/screenwriter/editor/producer. And he's a damn good producer.
By the way, for the uninitiated amongst you, a grip is someone who (amongst
other things) holds 1/2stone microphone on the end of a 12 foot fishing pole
over their head for several hours at a time while everyone else does fun
stuff.
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:31:29 -0700, Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. The CHEEK of it! Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to switch the SAM into Spectrum mode. Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken Elston. And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off. There's not that many ways to write that switch code (it's only 15 bytes or so)... but really Actually that was a bit of code I wrote during one of my visits to MGT in Swansea during the machine's development and he published it under KE's name. IIRC it was later used by Ian Spencer in the Specmaker emulator he wrote for SAM. But as you rightly say it's only a few bytes and thus easily duplicated by accident. As for me, I don't care. What's a dozen or so instructions weighed against the millions of lines of code I've done in my lifetime. -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:26:04 +0100, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 10:44 pm, Nev Young wrote: Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought Exeter was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;) I thought you lot shot each other (sorry !!!) Haven't you heard about the ceasefire? *coughs* Well one thing I soon sorted out with S D Software was a no quibble full momey refund. Apart from a major bug in unidos that nearly broke me when I had to pay back a few hundred quid. But that work out ok cos when the bug was fixed those people all bought the new one cos I was such a nice chap. No quibble apart from a broken leg? :) I sent an IDE interface back to you one time cos I couldn't get it to work and you were good to your word and helped me best you could. You examined it and said there was nothing wrong with it and as I changed the cable etc, I thought the fault was with my SAMmy. Turns out it was the power supply you supplied - looks like it's working, spins up the hard drive etc, just fails to provide enough power to read the data off the disk reliably :) Only found this out last year when I tried using the supply for the Atom interface. Send it back and I'll refund your money. -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 12:05 am, David Ledbury wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? David I *THINK* he turned up in the middle of a fight about Bob's clones and a few of us decided he was yet another clone and blasted him for it - I'm sure we had good reason though ;) Think he went quiet after a few posts. Gavin
RE: Who's Ken Elston?
wasn't that Bill Ritman? -Original Message- From: Gavin Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:00 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston? On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 12:05 am, David Ledbury wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? David I *THINK* he turned up in the middle of a fight about Bob's clones and a few of us decided he was yet another clone and blasted him for it - I'm sure we had good reason though ;) Think he went quiet after a few posts. Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
No, he definitely was a clone :) Ken Elston came next. (You know that Bill Ritman had a letter published in Format one time, don't you? :) Gavin On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 03:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasn't that Bill Ritman? -Original Message- From: Gavin Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:00 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject:Re: Who's Ken Elston? On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 12:05 am, David Ledbury wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? David I *THINK* he turned up in the middle of a fight about Bob's clones and a few of us decided he was yet another clone and blasted him for it - I'm sure we had good reason though ;) Think he went quiet after a few posts. Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. Bob and I fell out a few times over his use of multiple personas which I did, and still do, feel is wrong. I tried to treat it as a game but with hindsight I see that many here did not think it was a good game. Now that so much time has passed I don't have any qualms about saying what I believe to be the truth, but as I said elsewhere, even I don't know the whole story. When I first started on-line Bob let me use the samsboss account on pipeline as the news feed from my own isp was crap, hence many people thought I was samsboss. I believe that he was also Bill Ritman but I never got him to admit that to me. Again IIRC Ritman is his uncle or some such aquaintance. I never said any of that. You've not seen me, you never heard it from me. OK :-) -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
Just as we all suspected but it's a good thing you didn't confirm it for us before now, it kept us all feeling like busy little SAM detectives :) I must dig up some of Bob's old posts and read again his indignant denials of the whole thing! Gavin PS Community service Nev?! What did you do? ;) On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 06:47 pm, Nev Young wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. Bob and I fell out a few times over his use of multiple personas which I did, and still do, feel is wrong. I tried to treat it as a game but with hindsight I see that many here did not think it was a good game. Now that so much time has passed I don't have any qualms about saying what I believe to be the truth, but as I said elsewhere, even I don't know the whole story. When I first started on-line Bob let me use the samsboss account on pipeline as the news feed from my own isp was crap, hence many people thought I was samsboss. I believe that he was also Bill Ritman but I never got him to admit that to me. Again IIRC Ritman is his uncle or some such aquaintance. I never said any of that. You've not seen me, you never heard it from me. OK :-) -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
The increasingly fascinating Nev Young wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here. That's it! God, I've been racking my brain trying to think where I know that name from. But yes, there were a few Elston pieces in Format, weren't there? The SAM Elite review springs to mind... When I first started on-line Bob let me use the samsboss account on pipeline as the news feed from my own isp was crap, hence many people thought I was samsboss. I believe that he was also Bill Ritman but I never got him to admit that to me. Again IIRC Ritman is his uncle or some such aquaintance. Ah! And Frank Broughton...? Mark _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 08:09 pm, Mark Sturdy wrote: And Frank Broughton...? Mark We did find this one out. A Welsh relation, possibly a cousin IIRC. A couple of us even tried to track him down, I think we worked out he was a farmer or something. Gavin
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:52:17 +0100 Wed, 15 Aug 01 21:14:18 BST, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 08:09 pm, Mark Sturdy wrote: And Frank Broughton...? Mark We did find this one out. A Welsh relation, possibly a cousin IIRC. A couple of us even tried to track him down, I think we worked out he was a farmer or something. Gavin I think he's his brother-in-law in Exeter, or so Derek Morgan once told me. Dave
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:51 +0100 Wed, 15 Aug 01 19:18:40 BST, Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who Ken Elston is? Just wondering as he seemed to share an email address with Samsboss? IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father. Is Bob's real name Elston then? Or is he a real you-know-what-I-mean, instead of someone who just acts like one? :-) And was it you, or Bob who wrote to me telling me Samsboss' name was 'Brian'... haha.. almost had me fooled that did. It didn't sound like Bob at all, unless he was exercising multiple personalities as well. Regards Dave
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
And Frank Broughton...? We did find this one out. A Welsh relation, possibly a cousin IIRC. A couple of us even tried to track him down, I think we worked out he was a farmer or something. Right... So if he was in Wales, who was at 44 Buddle Lane Exeter or whatever? Mark _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Who's Ken Elston?
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 09:40 pm, Mark Sturdy wrote: And Frank Broughton...? We did find this one out. A Welsh relation, possibly a cousin IIRC. A couple of us even tried to track him down, I think we worked out he was a farmer or something. Right... So if he was in Wales, who was at 44 Buddle Lane Exeter or whatever? Mark Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought Exeter was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;) You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. I (and I know others) had many heated arguments with him off this list (a few on the list too), and the things he came out with to defend his lies still make me angry. He was frankly full of crap (and this in no way says anything bad about you Nev as the once or twice I've bought something from you or spoken to you and from your posts on this list, I've always thought you were a nice chap). Gavin
