Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Jeremy, All, I truly appreciate your willingness to help me work on this further. Unfortunately, we have simply run out of time. To make matters worse, I cannot provide traces, logs, etc because this is a classified government system that cannot be exposed in any way, which means rather difficult and sometimes problematic troubleshooting limitations that may keep this problem from being solved. However, this error is found all over the internet and rarely do you ever see a fix for it. When I have seen one, it's not a fix that works for me. To make matters worse, Microsoft stamped a Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem with the products specified on WinXP and Samba. Microsoft has no fix, they have tried many times before, and as it now stands, appears to be disinterested in providing a hot fix due to the remaining shelf life of XP. Any support you get form Microsoft on this particular issue is what they call a best effort, and do not guarantee a fix like they do with their own products. For anyone that wants to play around with this, here's the config: All static IPs Workgroup only, no domain Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, configured as Master Browser No DNS server XP has WINS setting pointing at Samba box, hosts file used instead of DNS, lmjosts file NTO in use because of WINS on Samba, XP's Computer Browser service disabled to force XP to see Samba box as master browser (otherwise will elect itself as master browser and totally ignore Samba) Behavior: WinXP can map to any resource on Samba with zero problems - it is not a permissions issue. Attempting to browse to a Samba resource, however, produces The specified network name is no longer available in XP. If Computer Browser service enabled on XP, XP may or may not be able to browse to Samba box (this is entirely unstable, because within 15 minutes, if XP has elected itself as master browser, XP will eventually time out and lose the server list, and Specified network no longer available error returns). Never, is WinXP able to retrieve the browse list from Samba. Microsoft claims that this is because the network configuration is too simplified and because real WINS and DNS servers are not in use. All we're trying to do is get one stinkin' XP workstation to talk to one stinkin' Samba box in a simple workgroup. That's it. So far, it's got everyone that looks at this problem absolutely baffled as to how this could not work. Those who have looked at it and given up: Microsoft US Air Force US Marine Corps Various private military contractors Samba email list group (best support so far, but still no dice) Again, thanks to all who have tried figuring this out. I know I haven't given you much to work with, so don't feel bad. It's just that I have simply run out of time to get this resolved. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:04 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Well, here's what's happening. Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Don't throw in the towel just yet. I've never seen a WindowsXP box that won't work with Samba, we just need more info. Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several workarounds is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific configuration. So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone could know. A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the scope. Don't do this yet. I haven't seen any debug logs from you, or a network trace. Changing your config without proper investigation is completely premature IMHO. This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. We have been networking Windowx XP boxes to Samba for longer than anyone still working in Microsoft Tech support, trust me on that :-). So I'd still like to fix this properly. So, it sucks to be me. Please get the network trace and debug level 10 log of the Windows XP box trying to connect to Samba, this should give us the information we need to fix it. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
You bet. http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AsEw2kKriectewf3wTL9r42bvZx4?p=Windows+XP+%2B+Samba+%2B+%22The+specified+network+name+is+no+longer+available%22toggle=1cop=mssei=UTF-8fr=yfp-t-312 Bob -Original Message- From: Ryan Novosielski [mailto:novos...@umdnj.edu] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:28 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC; Jeremy Allison Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] Might you be able to provide a couple of links to other places you've seen this on the internet (or sample search terms)? Perhaps one has some of the information that could be used to look into the problem further, or something that could be used to triangulate the problem. Would be neat to get it nailed down one way or another. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jan 3, 2011 8:36, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Jeremy, All, I truly appreciate your willingness to help me work on this further. Unfortunately, we have simply run out of time. To make matters worse, I cannot provide traces, logs, etc because this is a classified government system that cannot be exposed in any way, which means rather difficult and sometimes problematic troubleshooting limitations that may keep this problem from being solved. However, this error is found all over the internet and rarely do you ever see a fix for it. When I have seen one, it's not a fix that works for me. To make matters worse, Microsoft stamped a Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem with the products specified on WinXP and Samba. Microsoft has no fix, they have tried many times before, and as it now stands, appears to be disinterested in providing a hot fix due to the remaining shelf life of XP. Any support you get form Microsoft on this particular issue is what they call a best effort, and do not guarantee a fix like they do with their own products. For anyone that wants to play around with this, here's the config: All static IPs Workgroup only, no domain Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, configured as Master Browser No DNS server XP has WINS setting pointing at Samba box, hosts file used instead of DNS, lmjosts file NTO in use because of WINS on Samba, XP's Computer Browser service disabled to force XP to see Samba box as master browser (otherwise will elect itself as master browser and totally ignore Samba) Behavior: WinXP can map to any resource on Samba with zero problems - it is not a permissions issue. Attempting to browse to a Samba resource, however, produces The specified network name is no longer available in XP. If Computer Browser service enabled on XP, XP may or may not be able to browse to Samba box (this is entirely unstable, because within 15 minutes, if XP has elected itself as master browser, XP will eventually time out and lose the server list, and Specified network no longer available error returns). Never, is WinXP able to retrieve the browse list from Samba. Microsoft claims that this is because the network configuration is too simplified and because real WINS and DNS servers are not in use. All we're trying to do is get one stinkin' XP workstation to talk to one stinkin' Samba box in a simple workgroup. That's it. So far, it's got everyone that looks at this problem absolutely baffled as to how this could not work. Those who have looked at it and given up: Microsoft US Air Force US Marine Corps Various private military contractors Samba email list group (best support so far, but still no dice) Again, thanks to all who have tried figuring this out. I know I haven't given you much to work with, so don't feel bad. It's just that I have simply run out of time to get this resolved. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:04 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Well, here's what's happening. Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Don't throw in the towel just yet. I've never seen a WindowsXP box that won't work with Samba, we just need more info. Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several workarounds is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific configuration. So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and we're resorting to simply mapping
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
No, I didn't. Nor can I because of the impact it would have on a number of different issues that are unchangeable/written in stone. A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Bob -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:13 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Jeremy Allison; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Workgroup only, no domain Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, configured as Master Browser Did you ever correct the underscore in the hostname issue and then test? Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Could be. I'm trying it now just out of curiosity. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and this will be a fix. :-) -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:25 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Don't know if I would put so much weight on that - a difference, yes, but not a key item. XP may just be more finicky when it comes to things like proper naming conventions. I haven't run a Samba-2.x installation in years but I have at one time or another had Samba working successfully with everything from the workgroup add-on for MS-DOS to Windows 7. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed]
Nope - didn't fix it. Same error. But an excellent suggestion though, thanks. Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Hodges,Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:39 AM To: Chris Smith Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed] Could be. I'm trying it now just out of curiosity. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and this will be a fix. :-) -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:25 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Don't know if I would put so much weight on that - a difference, yes, but not a key item. XP may just be more finicky when it comes to things like proper naming conventions. I haven't run a Samba-2.x installation in years but I have at one time or another had Samba working successfully with everything from the workgroup add-on for MS-DOS to Windows 7. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Thanks, Chris. The only WINS server we're attempting to use is Samba itself. We are not using lmhosts. Samba is verified to be properly hosting WINS, as there are two instances running (would be only one if WINS wasn't being hosted) and like I said, everything runs great if using a Windows 2000 workstation against the Solaris/Samba server. No NetBIOS scopes or anything like that, not erven using DHCP - just static IPs on a local workgroup. Just a very simple, no-frills networking setup. You guys are awesome, keep the ideas coming. Bob -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:20 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: The registry change and enabling the browser service produced the same results as before, same error (The specified network name is no longer available.). However, it did allow Windows XP to force itself to use the Samba server as the master browser without having to disable the Computer Browser service, which is what I had been doing. So that was nice. Any other suggestions? If you have a WINS server that the system is registering with you shouldn't need an lmhosts file - although as long as they don't contradict you would be fine. FYI, possibly the absolute dumbest UI decision ever was Microsoft's one to hide file extensions for known file types. Many users think they have a perfectly fine lmhosts file when they have a useless lmhosts.sam or lmhosts.txt file instead. You can examine the wins.dat file on the WINS server host to determine if the XP system is registering itself. Outside possibility - NetBIOS Scope - which allows for some (il)logical type of NetBIOS subnetting. It possible that the XP system has been setup to respond to a particular NetBIOS scope ID (although I haven't seen such a setup in use for eons). I do admit to always adding an - option netbios-scope ; - to my dhcpd server to eliminate this tattoo from the registry. You can also manually check it at: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters\ScopeID If there's any value there delete it (unless you're using a Scope ID, then make it match). Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Well, here's what's happening. Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several workarounds is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific configuration. So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone could know. A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the scope. This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. So, it sucks to be me. You folks are AWESOME, and came up with much better ideas that Microsoft did, but still to no avail. You all have my unwavering respect and thanks, and I really mean it. - Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:45 AM To: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a directive used to include other config files. I do not recall what it is, but I do recall it being in the manual for smb.conf. ;) Please keep replies on-list. Thanks. On 12/29/2010 02:19 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Good tip, thanks. How to I make use of this smb.conf.%m option? Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:33 AM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly You can set the logs to level 10 using the params in the manual for smb.conf. Also a neat trick, though, is to include the config file smb.conf.%m, which may or may not exist for all machine names, and include the debug parameter in there. This allows you to add the log level 10 for only the client(s) you want so as not to waste disk space on a busy machine. =R On 12/29/2010 01:10 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Jeremy, This makes sense, I'll try it. Excellent idea. I'm new to Samba, so how do I get it to run in debug mode and do the logging option you mentioned? Sorry to sound so juvenile, my experience with Samba is in reverse - getting Linux boxes to use Windows servers. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:33 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: t...@tms3.com; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:22:46AM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: TMS3, Thanks for joining in, really appreciate it. I'm trying to keep it all straight, I'm relatively new to Samba (but learning quickly). What I now know: 1. Sniffer on XP box reveals that XP does see the broadcasts from Samba. 2. The Microsoft support tool/command Browstat status shows that XP does recognize Samba as the server (if Computer Browser service disabled, otherwise XP may/may not elect itself as the master - unpredictable), but also shows that XP is unable to pull down the browse list form the Samba box. This is the key. Separate out the logs by incoming client name, run smbd at debug level 10 and then look in the log.xp client name to see if it's trying to fetch the browse list, and if so why it goes wrong. Jeremy. - -- - _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |novos...@umdnj.edu - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0cxSUACgkQmb+gadEcsb6fCgCfetMccsL9aLvE5LN2+tC9xbqZ gDgAn1CR0QgAahXcpFfQj/CuDqsKq2LO =Gdr3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed]
Unfortunately we're not able to install more software of radically change any configurations. We also do not use LDAP (just a workgroup, hosts file, static IPs and Samba). But those are good ideas, I'll keep them in mind just in case. Major thanks. :-) Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed] So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone could know. Some ideas: 1. Webpage on intranet web server with a list of available shares. With Internut Exploder, the links will open as a drive folder. 2. MSDFS. Use the home path in ldap (etc.) to map homes through an MSDFS share. Nest all available shares in the MSDFS zone. You could even have several MSDFS shares with different available shares for different groups. In either case the changes are global and user friendly. Happy New Year A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the scope. This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. So, it sucks to be me. You folks are AWESOME, and came up with much better ideas that Microsoft did, but still to no avail. You all have my unwavering respect and thanks, and I really mean it. - Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:45 AM To: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a directive used to include other config files. I do not recall what it is, but I do recall it being in the manual for smb.conf. ;) Please keep replies on-list. Thanks. On 12/29/2010 02:19 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Good tip, thanks. How to I make use of this smb.conf.%m option? Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:33 AM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly You can set the logs to level 10 using the params in the manual for smb.conf. Also a neat trick, though, is to include the config file smb.conf.%m, which may or may not exist for all machine names, and include the debug parameter in there. This allows you to add the log level 10 for only the client(s) you want so as not to waste disk space on a busy machine. =R On 12/29/2010 01:10 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Jeremy, This makes sense, I'll try it. Excellent idea. I'm new to Samba, so how do I get it to run in debug mode and do the logging option you mentioned? Sorry to sound so juvenile, my experience with Samba is in reverse - getting Linux boxes to use Windows servers. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:33 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: t...@tms3.com; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:22:46AM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Thanks for responding, Brian, it is greatly appreciated. To answer your questions: Samba 3.4.2 is running on Solaris 8. WINS support is enabled in Samba. We are using a simple workgroup, not a domain structure. One single XP workstation, one single Solaris/Samba server. We are not using DNS, we are using the hosts file in XP. Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:31 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Hi, Robert! So, since I don't have the whole thread here, this question may be redundant, but are you running WINS? Do you have a Windows DC or just a Samba DC? What version of Samba and Solaris, on what hardware? What is the network and DNS topology? -b On 12/28/10 2:25 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com/networksetup.htm#hosts Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
I'll eventually be trying this, thanks. But I'm hoping it doesn't have to get this ugly yet. -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:48 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Chris Smith; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. Start sniffing the machine as you do a Network Neighborhood search. You might also check and see just where and how lookups are being done for NETBios from an XP box command terminal nbtstat -r which will tell you how lookups are being done. Might lead you to a culprit. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com/networksetup.htm#hosts Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
[Samba] FW: Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Takahashi, thanks for your response. No antivirus software is installed, firewall disabled completely. I might have to go the sniffer route. But this is XP and Samba, both old products. I can't imagine that I'd be the first one to have such a ridiculous problem trying to get XP to be able to browse a Samba box. This is fresh WinXP right out of the box (with SP3) having this problem, nothing else is installed. I've got about the simplest network configuration in the world. VERY frustrating. Bob -Original Message- From: TAKAHASHI Motonobu [mailto:mo...@monyo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:39 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: t...@tms3.com; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly 2010/12/29 Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil: Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Windows XP should work well as a browsing client. Most of problems around browsing are recently cause by firewall or anti-virus functions. Do you disable your firewall or anti-virus which blocks incoming UDP traffic (137/udp and 138/udp)? Or using sniffer as tms3 said below. 2010/12/29 t...@tms3.com: Start sniffing the machine as you do a Network Neighborhood search. You might also check and see just where and how lookups are being done for NETBios from an XP box command terminal nbtstat -r which will tell you how lookups are being done. Might lead you to a culprit. --- TAKAHASHI Motonobu mo...@samba.gr.jp -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
John, thanks for the response. Yes, machine names are standard text, no special characters with the exception of the Samba box, which has an underscore in the name. If the workstation is Win2K, everything works great, including browsing. XP, however, has the browsing problem (The specified network is no longer available). And this is with a fresh install of XP. Bob -Original Message- From: John Drescher [mailto:dresche...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:12 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Chris Smith; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. Do you have a valid NETBIOS domain or workstation name? I mean less than 16 characters and absolutely no . in the name. John -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
John, everyone, Whatever needs to be running on the Solaris box is running properly. Windows 2000 workstation has no problem accessing or browsing the Solaris box. It is only XP that is producing the error. All of your suggestions are excellent, PLEASE keep them coming! Microsoft tech support is floundering around on this one, I'm hoping that you knowledgeable Samba experts will be able to save my life here. Bob -Original Message- From: John Drescher [mailto:dresche...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:16 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Chris Smith; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:12 PM, John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. Do you have a valid NETBIOS domain or workstation name? I mean less than 16 characters and absolutely no . in the name. Also make sure that nmbd is running on the linux box. John -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Everyone, Both the Microsoft Network Monitor (sniffer) and Nbtstat -r shows that Windows XP is not acknowledging the broadcast packets from the Samba box, which keeps XP from being able to browse the server because no master browser is being recognized. If the Computer Browser service was enabled in XP, Widows 2000, however, acknowledges them just fine, even with Comptuer Browser disabled, and all is well. Any suggestions? If you folks help me figure this out, you'll be heroes, because I have come across a lot of help requests all over the internet that go way back many years for this very same problem, few solutions, and none of them resulting in a solution that works for me. Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:48 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Chris Smith; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. Start sniffing the machine as you do a Network Neighborhood search. You might also check and see just where and how lookups are being done for NETBios from an XP box command terminal nbtstat -r which will tell you how lookups are being done. Might lead you to a culprit. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com/networksetup.htm#hosts Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Brian, Excellent response, thanks for giving me things to consider and check. Yes, NetBIOS over TCPIP is enabled on XP. Also, XP is set to use the Samba box as WINS server. Using nbtstat -r and NetMon, I have discovered that WinXP is not acknowledging the broadcasts from the Samba box. Windows 2000, on the other hand, recognizes them just fine, so I know the Samba box is configured correctly. If the Computer Browser service is enabled in XP, XP will elect itself as the master browser because it doesn't acknowledge the Samba box's server broadcasts. But I can't have XP doing that, the Samba box MUST be seen as the master for my mission-critical needs. Windows 2000 has no problems with this. Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:24 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Hi, Bob... I remember having a problem similar to this a few years back on Solaris 8 where the WINS traffic was somehow being sent to the multicast network on Solaris. Have you configured XP to use the SMB Server as a WINS server under network properties? Do you have NetBios over TCP enabled on XP? Have you sniffed the network with tcpdump or wireshark to see if you're actually seeing the WINS traffic going across the wire? This is a WINS problem, almost guaranteed, since you can map to the share, but not see it in Network Places. -b On 12/29/10 5:56 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Thanks for responding, Brian, it is greatly appreciated. To answer your questions: Samba 3.4.2 is running on Solaris 8. WINS support is enabled in Samba. We are using a simple workgroup, not a domain structure. One single XP workstation, one single Solaris/Samba server. We are not using DNS, we are using the hosts file in XP. Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:31 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Hi, Robert! So, since I don't have the whole thread here, this question may be redundant, but are you running WINS? Do you have a Windows DC or just a Samba DC? What version of Samba and Solaris, on what hardware? What is the network and DNS topology? -b On 12/28/10 2:25 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com/networksetup.htm#hosts Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Brian, Thank you so much for your responses. I've got more effort and info out of you than a week of Microsoft support. To answer your questions: 1. Firewall off (removed, actually). No domain membership (workgroup only). 2. No av/as/am software of any kind (not needed - closed, secure network) 3. smb.conf: Looks good on my end, however, OS LEVEL was set to 10. Raising it to 65 did not fix the problem. Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:10 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Ah, OK... So that begs a couple more questions... 1) Is the XP firewall on or off??? When you join XP to a domain it makes firewall exceptions for you. If it's on, do you have the ability to turn it off for an hour or two and see if XP picks up the SMB server? 2) What are you running for AV/AS/AM software, anything??? 3) Do you have an OS LEVEL directive in your smb.conf file??? I'm thinking your smb.conf file should look something like this: [global] netbios name = toltec workgroup = METRAN security = user encrypt passwords = yes wins support = yes # The following three lines ensure that the Samba # server will maintain the role of master browser. # Make sure no other Samba server has its OS level # set higher than it is here. local master = yes preferred master = yes os level = 65 And you can find the whole Appendix here at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/appa.html for more configuration stuff. -brian On 12/29/10 7:32 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Brian, Excellent response, thanks for giving me things to consider and check. Yes, NetBIOS over TCPIP is enabled on XP. Also, XP is set to use the Samba box as WINS server. Using nbtstat -r and NetMon, I have discovered that WinXP is not acknowledging the broadcasts from the Samba box. Windows 2000, on the other hand, recognizes them just fine, so I know the Samba box is configured correctly. If the Computer Browser service is enabled in XP, XP will elect itself as the master browser because it doesn't acknowledge the Samba box's server broadcasts. But I can't have XP doing that, the Samba box MUST be seen as the master for my mission-critical needs. Windows 2000 has no problems with this. Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:24 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Hi, Bob... I remember having a problem similar to this a few years back on Solaris 8 where the WINS traffic was somehow being sent to the multicast network on Solaris. Have you configured XP to use the SMB Server as a WINS server under network properties? Do you have NetBios over TCP enabled on XP? Have you sniffed the network with tcpdump or wireshark to see if you're actually seeing the WINS traffic going across the wire? This is a WINS problem, almost guaranteed, since you can map to the share, but not see it in Network Places. -b On 12/29/10 5:56 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Thanks for responding, Brian, it is greatly appreciated. To answer your questions: Samba 3.4.2 is running on Solaris 8. WINS support is enabled in Samba. We are using a simple workgroup, not a domain structure. One single XP workstation, one single Solaris/Samba server. We are not using DNS, we are using the hosts file in XP. Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:31 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Hi, Robert! So, since I don't have the whole thread here, this question may be redundant, but are you running WINS? Do you have a Windows DC or just a Samba DC? What version of Samba and Solaris, on what hardware? What is the network and DNS topology? -b On 12/28/10 2:25 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Chris, thanks for the reply and good idea. The problem that browstat status (MS support tools for XP) reveals is that XP does see the Samba server as the master browser but is unable to pull down the browse list from Samba. Anybody know how to fix the problem of XP not being able to get the browse list from Samba? Bob -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Brian McGrew; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: If the Computer Browser service is enabled in XP, XP will elect itself as the master browser because it doesn't acknowledge the Samba box's server broadcasts. I think you need the Browser service enabled. Try some registry tweaks and reboot: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters\ - IsDomainMaster FALSE MaintainServerList Disabled Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
TMS3, Thanks for joining in, really appreciate it. I'm trying to keep it all straight, I'm relatively new to Samba (but learning quickly). What I now know: 1. Sniffer on XP box reveals that XP does see the broadcasts from Samba. 2. The Microsoft support tool/command Browstat status shows that XP does recognize Samba as the server (if Computer Browser service disabled, otherwise XP may/may not elect itself as the master - unpredictable), but also shows that XP is unable to pull down the browse list form the Samba box. XP being unable to pull down the browse list form the Samba box is where things are broken. Everything else looks good. Any ideas on how to get that browse list from Samba to XP? Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:54 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Everyone, Both the Microsoft Network Monitor (sniffer) and Nbtstat -r shows that Windows XP is not acknowledging the broadcast packets from the Samba box, Well, that's an interesting statement... So, XP spouts a request to the WINS server, it responds and the packet is dropped? Or is XP NOT sending a request at all??? which keeps XP from being able to browse the server because no master browser is being recognized. If the Computer Browser service was enabled in XP, Widows 2000, however, acknowledges them just fine, even with Comptuer Browser disabled, and all is well. Any suggestions? If you folks help me figure this out, you'll be heroes, because I have come across a lot of help requests all over the internet that go way back many years for this very same problem, few solutions, and none of them resulting in a solution that works for me. Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:48 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Chris Smith; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. Start sniffing the machine as you do a Network Neighborhood search. You might also check and see just where and how lookups are being done for NETBios from an XP box command terminal nbtstat -r which will tell you how lookups are being done. Might lead you to a culprit. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com/networksetup.htm#hosts Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Chris, Good suggestion, I tried it. The registry change and enabling the browser service produced the same results as before, same error (The specified network name is no longer available.). However, it did allow Windows XP to force itself to use the Samba server as the master browser without having to disable the Computer Browser service, which is what I had been doing. So that was nice. Any other suggestions? Bob -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Brian McGrew; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: If the Computer Browser service is enabled in XP, XP will elect itself as the master browser because it doesn't acknowledge the Samba box's server broadcasts. I think you need the Browser service enabled. Try some registry tweaks and reboot: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters\ - IsDomainMaster FALSE MaintainServerList Disabled Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Brian, Unfortunately, I'm not able to upgrade, it's a locked system at this point. Since it works great with a Windows 2000 client, one would think it would also work find with XP. Still at the drawing board... Bob -Original Message- From: Brian McGrew [mailto:br...@visionpro.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:31 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Bob, Do you have the ability or means to upgrade Samba to version 3.5.6 on your Solaris machine??? It looks like there are a few, but considerable changes in the way packet formulation is done in this version. I should qualify that and say that I am not on the samba dev team; but I do my share of software engineering and development and am no stranger to building samba (or complete operating systems) from source. -brian On 12/29/10 9:22 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: TMS3, Thanks for joining in, really appreciate it. I'm trying to keep it all straight, I'm relatively new to Samba (but learning quickly). What I now know: 1. Sniffer on XP box reveals that XP does see the broadcasts from Samba. 2. The Microsoft support tool/command Browstat status shows that XP does recognize Samba as the server (if Computer Browser service disabled, otherwise XP may/may not elect itself as the master - unpredictable), but also shows that XP is unable to pull down the browse list form the Samba box. XP being unable to pull down the browse list form the Samba box is where things are broken. Everything else looks good. Any ideas on how to get that browse list from Samba to XP? Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:54 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Everyone, Both the Microsoft Network Monitor (sniffer) and Nbtstat -r shows that Windows XP is not acknowledging the broadcast packets from the Samba box, Well, that's an interesting statement... So, XP spouts a request to the WINS server, it responds and the packet is dropped? Or is XP NOT sending a request at all??? which keeps XP from being able to browse the server because no master browser is being recognized. If the Computer Browser service was enabled in XP, Widows 2000, however, acknowledges them just fine, even with Comptuer Browser disabled, and all is well. Any suggestions? If you folks help me figure this out, you'll be heroes, because I have come across a lot of help requests all over the internet that go way back many years for this very same problem, few solutions, and none of them resulting in a solution that works for me. Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:48 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Chris Smith; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. Start sniffing the machine as you do a Network Neighborhood search. You might also check and see just where and how lookups are being done for NETBios from an XP box command terminal nbtstat -r which will tell you how lookups are being done. Might lead you to a culprit. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Jeremy, This makes sense, I'll try it. Excellent idea. I'm new to Samba, so how do I get it to run in debug mode and do the logging option you mentioned? Sorry to sound so juvenile, my experience with Samba is in reverse - getting Linux boxes to use Windows servers. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:33 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: t...@tms3.com; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:22:46AM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: TMS3, Thanks for joining in, really appreciate it. I'm trying to keep it all straight, I'm relatively new to Samba (but learning quickly). What I now know: 1. Sniffer on XP box reveals that XP does see the broadcasts from Samba. 2. The Microsoft support tool/command Browstat status shows that XP does recognize Samba as the server (if Computer Browser service disabled, otherwise XP may/may not elect itself as the master - unpredictable), but also shows that XP is unable to pull down the browse list form the Samba box. This is the key. Separate out the logs by incoming client name, run smbd at debug level 10 and then look in the log.xp client name to see if it's trying to fetch the browse list, and if so why it goes wrong. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
My apologies, it's Samba 3.4.2 that I'm running on Solaris. -Original Message- From: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:39 AM To: 'samba@lists.samba.org' Subject: Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly Hi everyone, new to the list. My apologies if this issue has already been covered, but I am having the following problem with Samba: Using Windows XP as a client, I am trying to see a Solaris system as a server. Solaris is running Samba 2.4.2, and Windows 2000 sees it as a server without any problems. Windows XP, however, generates the error The network name is no longer available when trying to browse to shares on the Solaris box. Browsing is what produces the error - otherwise, I can map to and access resources directly with \\servername\share. Running the command browstat status on the WinXP box shows that the Windows machine is not able to pull the server list from the Solaris box. Again, Windows 2000, however, works fine and does not have this problem. Desperate for help to get this resolved. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
[Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Hi everyone, new to the list. My apologies if this issue has already been covered, but I am having the following problem with Samba: Using Windows XP as a client, I am trying to see a Solaris system as a server. Solaris is running Samba 2.4.2, and Windows 2000 sees it as a server without any problems. Windows XP, however, generates the error The network name is no longer available when trying to browse to shares on the Solaris box. Browsing is what produces the error - otherwise, I can map to and access resources directly with \\servername\share. Running the command browstat status on the WinXP box shows that the Windows machine is not able to pull the server list from the Solaris box. Again, Windows 2000, however, works fine and does not have this problem. Desperate for help to get this resolved. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
John, First, thank you for the response. I'll take any help I can get. Yes, I do have WINS enabled on the Samba box. Do I set WinXP to use the Samba box as the WINS server? If so, then I have already tried this and it didn't work. Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. The Samba box and the WinXP box simply share a worgroup name. Trying to keep this as simplistic as possible. Also, the Computer Browser service is disabled in XP - this is to force WinXP to use the Samba server as the master browser, and is the method I used in Win2K which worked great. In XP, however, it produces the error Network name is no longer available. Enabling the service causes XP to elect itself as the master browser and ignore the Samba box (which I want to be master browser like it was with Win2K). This improves things SOMETIMES - the Network name error still pops up half the time, meaning network browsing of the Samba box from XP went from 100% broken to Cross your fingers. REALLY desperate to get this working. MAJOR thanks to anyone who can help me with this, especially since the internet is loaded with people who have posted for help on this problem and no solutions follow. -Original Message- From: John Drescher [mailto:dresche...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:01 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Hi everyone, new to the list. My apologies if this issue has already been covered, but I am having the following problem with Samba: Using Windows XP as a client, I am trying to see a Solaris system as a server. Solaris is running Samba 2.4.2, and Windows 2000 sees it as a server without any problems. Windows XP, however, generates the error The network name is no longer available when trying to browse to shares on the Solaris box. Browsing is what produces the error - otherwise, I can map to and access resources directly with \\servername\share. Running the command browstat status on the WinXP box shows that the Windows machine is not able to pull the server list from the Solaris box. Again, Windows 2000, however, works fine and does not have this problem. Desperate for help to get this resolved. Did you enable WINS on the samba server and set that up on the XP box? Usually that fixes a lot of windows browsing problems. John -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly
Excellent information, thank you. Unfortunately, none of it solved my problem. I see a lot of The specified network name is no longer available error messages all over the internet from Linux users, and none of the very few solutions I have come across have worked for me. Anybody else able to chime in and take a guess as why my XP box is having a problem talking to my Solaris/Samba box? Again, Win2K has no problems talking to the Samba box - it's just XP. Refresh: This error happens when you try to browse using My Network Places in the desktop. Mapping works fine, access works fine. Browsing is what fails in XP. I need this to work or I'm looking at a huge and expensive documentation change effort that few would understand. Still desperate for help on this. This problem happens with WinXP right out of the box, we have nothing weird installed. Help! -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: John Drescher; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC robert.hodges@hill.af.mil wrote: Other details: I do not use a DNS server, I use the hosts file in XP. Yes, but NetBIOS desires the lmhosts file. See my ancient (but still valid) scribblings here: http://realcomputerguy.com/networksetup.htm#hosts Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
