Re: [Samba] LAN Browsing shows IP Addresses instead of Computer Names.
hmm looks like I'm gonna do it how I did it before and just add the ip address and computer name pairs in /etc/hosts and have my router assign static ip addresses. Thanks for all the suggestions. you guys are great. Although, I'd still like to know how MS Network Neighborhood does it. I don't want to set up my linux box as a server of any type since it's a laptop and is often taken out of the network when I travel. I mean let's just say for the sake of argument, that i've got a linux machine and a windows 98SE computer. How does Network Neighborhood get the computer name of my linux machine? Since I'm know I didn't set up the windows computer with any DNS or WINS server. but i'll go with what works for both. Any thoughts, please feel free to post 'em. =) Sincerely, Vince From: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Mega Spaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Samba] LAN Browsing shows IP Addresses instead of Computer Names. Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:06:14 +0200 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Message: 7 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:35:42 -0700 From: Mega Spaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Samba] LAN Browsing shows IP Addresses instead of Computer Names. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm trying to figure out how I can have my lan browser display computer names instead of IP Addresses. I think the ip addresses are generated by my router since if I add a new computer, the ip addresses will be different for each computer. anyway let me give you the specs first. Running Samba 2.2.8a-1 on Red Hat 7.3. I have not set up WINS or DNS at all. That's your problem, reverse lookups need to work, either via DNS or nss_wins (apparently it works without a WINS server, in which case it used broadcasts). I don't know is RH ships with a working nss_wins, if they do, it should work by adding wins to the hosts line of your /etc/nsswitch.conf file. BTW, setting up working reverse DNS would be a better solution, for services that don't use get*ent, but direct DNS lookups. I have set up lisarc to use nmblookup. I'm assuming that my network is using broadcasting to get computers in my LAN since i have not set up any computer names in hosts or lmhosts. The current set up works right now in that computers come up and can be browsed independant of the ip addresses assigned to the computers. ie. if computer Tron is up on the network, and then I boot up Sark, Sark will show up at the first next broadcast. but the computers show up in konqueror as ip addresses, not as Tron and Sark. My very old first setup attempt had me manually adding ip addresses and names manually in the /etc/hosts file. but that would mess up the lan browsing if another new computer was added to the network. So if Sark is 192.168.0.2 and Tron is 192.168.0.3 and let's say my brother brings his laptop and i put his laptop on the network, the ip addresses on the network will change to something like Sark = 192.168.0.3, Tron = 192.168.0.2 and my brother's laptop maybe something like Bros_comp = 192.168.0.4. but the /etc/hosts file will have the old assignments which really messes up the browsing part. Anyway right now i think i have it set up almost right since i can browse the network and the computers on the network will be found no matter the time they are actually booted up, but ip addresses in the lan browsing isn't very useful and I would like to see the computer names displayed in the lan browsing in konqueror. thank you for your patience, time, and any help you can provide. - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+7vYlrJK6UGDSBKcRAtEQAJ9WoGfA34SrYpFl/IwkVOXUPpbyAQCeLrtG ASziSnkS4UvBQE6GxW9YB1E= =TamT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. ** _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] LAN Browsing shows IP Addresses instead of Computer Names.
I'm trying to figure out how I can have my lan browser display computer names instead of IP Addresses. I think the ip addresses are generated by my router since if I add a new computer, the ip addresses will be different for each computer. anyway let me give you the specs first. Running Samba 2.2.8a-1 on Red Hat 7.3. I have not set up WINS or DNS at all. I have set up lisarc to use nmblookup. I'm assuming that my network is using broadcasting to get computers in my LAN since i have not set up any computer names in hosts or lmhosts. The current set up works right now in that computers come up and can be browsed independant of the ip addresses assigned to the computers. ie. if computer Tron is up on the network, and then I boot up Sark, Sark will show up at the first next broadcast. but the computers show up in konqueror as ip addresses, not as Tron and Sark. My very old first setup attempt had me manually adding ip addresses and names manually in the /etc/hosts file. but that would mess up the lan browsing if another new computer was added to the network. So if Sark is 192.168.0.2 and Tron is 192.168.0.3 and let's say my brother brings his laptop and i put his laptop on the network, the ip addresses on the network will change to something like Sark = 192.168.0.3, Tron = 192.168.0.2 and my brother's laptop maybe something like Bros_comp = 192.168.0.4. but the /etc/hosts file will have the old assignments which really messes up the browsing part. Anyway right now i think i have it set up almost right since i can browse the network and the computers on the network will be found no matter the time they are actually booted up, but ip addresses in the lan browsing isn't very useful and I would like to see the computer names displayed in the lan browsing in konqueror. thank you for your patience, time, and any help you can provide. Sincerely, Vince =) _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] LAN Browsing shows IP Addresses instead of Computer Names.
Thanks for the reply. lemme go through your points and suggestions one by one. =) 1. I don't know where Diagnosis.txt is. whereis and locate come up empty and I've done a file search in /etc and /usr. 2. Interested in this. Any good places your recommend for this information? That is, easy for a complete nimrod like me? 3. See #2 4. Do I really need to set up a WINS server? Most of the time the network is just a windows 98 computer and this Linux computer. although there maybe times, since the windows computer is a dual boot windows 98/windows NT 4.0, that I boot the windows computer into NT. the Linux computer is also a dual boot of windows ME/ redhat 7.3. I think there maybe some kind of conflict, if I've read things right, between the Linux computer and the other computer if booted into windows NT. Any clarification on that would be greatly appreciated. 5. this is the resolve order from SWAT: lmhost host wins bcast 6. again see #2, if this is what a really have to do. =) 7. I could, but mucking about the router internally gives me the heebie-jeebies. And basically, the if all the computers are booted into windows, the network works fine with the router config as is. I don't understand why this would change for Linux. but, I'm a newbie nimrod with Linux, so any explainations would be great. Here's an nmblookup query. it seems to me that the ipaddress and the NetBIOS name are returned. [EMAIL PROTECTED] vjong]$ nmblookup han querying han on 192.168.0.255 192.168.0.4 han00 Yes, this is one case where I would love to have Linux work like Windows and I think I'm close since computers that come up on the network are found and browseable, it's just that their computer names aren't being shown in Konqueror just the IP addresses. I'm gonna try to add the computer names in /etc/lisarc and see if this works. Thanks again for the suggestions and help. =) Sincerely, Vince From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mega Spaz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] LAN Browsing shows IP Addresses instead of Computer Names. Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:57:44 -0400 I am no expert and am certainly rusty on this sort of question. Just some ideas. I do not know if the suggestions below are really what you need. However, how do you think that samba is supposed to do reverse lookups to find the name corresponding to an ip number? 1. Have you walked through DIAGNOSIS.txt? 2. What is this router you have that keeps changing ip addresses? Very inconvenient. It is not hard to set up a dhcp server on a linux box. The nice part is that you can ensure that the same ip number is given every time to the same computer, using the identifying number on the network card. 3. If you do #2, then you can use [lm]hosts files on both the linux and windows boxes to associate names and ip addresses. 4. The easiest thing might be to install a wins server. This just involves adding a few lines to smb.conf on one linux box. Here is what I have in mine: name resolve order = lmhosts wins bcast host netbios name = JHAMMER6 os level = 100 preferred master = True domain master = True wins support = Yes This makes this machine the wins server. Point your other machines, to this one. This requires a wins server = parameter in the linux boxes and you can muck around with the menus in windows to point to the wins server. 5. Maybe you have a bad name resolve order parameter? The meaning of the options above is: lmhosts = /etc/hosts file wins= wins server bcast = broadcast host= DNS lookup Do you have the bcast option in your smb.conf file? 6. If you want to spend many happy hours, you might consider setting up a DNS server, provided you have set up a DHCP server to ensure the same ip's are given each time to the same computers. 7. Can you tell your router to always give the same number to each of your computers? Joel On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:35:42PM -0700, Mega Spaz wrote: I'm trying to figure out how I can have my lan browser display computer names instead of IP Addresses. I think the ip addresses are generated by my router since if I add a new computer, the ip addresses will be different for each computer. anyway let me give you the specs first. Running Samba 2.2.8a-1 on Red Hat 7.3. I have not set up WINS or DNS at all. I have set up lisarc to use nmblookup. I'm assuming that my network is using broadcasting to get computers in my LAN since i have not set up any computer names in hosts or lmhosts. The current set up works right now in that computers come up and can be browsed independant of the ip addresses assigned to the computers. ie. if computer Tron is up on the network, and then I boot up Sark, Sark will show up at the first next broadcast. but the computers show up in konqueror as ip addresses, not as Tron and Sark. My very old first setup attempt had me manually adding ip addresses
