[Samba] Windows 7 Clients Slow/Unresponsive with some file types

[Robert Adkins II]

I am having some unresponsive and very slow performance with a couple of
different file types with Samba and Windows 7 clients.
 
The problems manifest in the following manners:
 
IGES files, these are CAD files. When opening up certain IGES files from
the server, the application can take upwards of 10 minutes to open up the
file. If I copy the same file from the server to the desktop, the file will
open up in a few seconds. This is most noticable with files in sizes over a
few megabytes.
 
Quickbooks. Logging into the Quickbooks file can take longer than
normal, upwards of 30 seconds, instead of 5 or fewer seconds. Once in, the
application operates normally, until a reconcile action is taken. What
happens is that the reconcile action goes through, but the application
appears to be processing the reconcile for an inordinate amount of time.
This has been left sitting for upwards of 10 to 15 minutes without returning
control to the user. Killing the application and then reopening and checking
confirms that the reconcile operation was succesful. The file size for the
Quickbooks file is over 200 megabytes in size.
 
I have a feeling that this is mostly an optimization issue more than
anything else.
 
Any suggestions or pointers towards rectifying this would be most
appreciated.
 
Thank you.



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Re: [Samba] Windows 7 Clients Slow/Unresponsive with some file types

[Robert Adkins II]

I have added the socket options of SO_RCVBUFF=65536 and SO_SNDBUFF=65536 and
while that has greatly increased file transfer speed, it's instantaneous to
transmit an 11mb file from the server to a Windows 7 desktop, there has been
no increase in performance for opening up that particular file from the
server.

Additionally, I should add that we also have other binary file types that
can be equally or significantly larger than the IGS files that open up
nearly as fast over the network as they do on the local system. These files
are the native format for the CAD System that we utilize. The files are not
plain text, like the IGES files are.



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Regards,
Robert Adkins 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert Adkins II
 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:44 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] Windows 7 Clients Slow/Unresponsive with 
 some file types
 
 I am having some unresponsive and very slow performance with 
 a couple of different file types with Samba and Windows 7 clients.
  
 The problems manifest in the following manners:
  
 IGES files, these are CAD files. When opening up certain 
 IGES files from the server, the application can take upwards 
 of 10 minutes to open up the file. If I copy the same file 
 from the server to the desktop, the file will open up in a 
 few seconds. This is most noticable with files in sizes over 
 a few megabytes.
  
 Quickbooks. Logging into the Quickbooks file can take 
 longer than normal, upwards of 30 seconds, instead of 5 or 
 fewer seconds. Once in, the application operates normally, 
 until a reconcile action is taken. What happens is that the 
 reconcile action goes through, but the application appears to 
 be processing the reconcile for an inordinate amount of time.
 This has been left sitting for upwards of 10 to 15 minutes 
 without returning control to the user. Killing the 
 application and then reopening and checking confirms that the 
 reconcile operation was succesful. The file size for the 
 Quickbooks file is over 200 megabytes in size.
  
 I have a feeling that this is mostly an optimization 
 issue more than anything else.
  
 Any suggestions or pointers towards rectifying this would 
 be most appreciated.
  
 Thank you.
 
 
 
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 Regards,
 Robert
 
 
  
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Re: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose

[Robert Adkins II]

I think you can/should have them remove the PDC from their WINS entry on
their end and then you can rejoin the network with the new IP Address.

Outside of that, I can only suggest looking into how to send an update to a
record on a WINS server from a Samba PDC. I'm unsure if that is possible as
I have only run a fully Windows or a Linux/Samba with Windows Clients as a
network.


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Regards,
Robert Adkins

 

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Paul Raines
 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:24 PM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
 It is definitely an issue with the WINS server which returns 
 the old IP address
 
 # nmblookup -U 172.27.88.81 -R 'MRIRESEARCH#1b'
 querying MRIRESEARCH on 172.27.88.81
 132.183.202.95 MRIRESEARCH1b
 
 SO it is not automatically picking up the IP change which 
 happened 4 days ago and I have restarted samba on my PDC 
 several times.  The old IP is definitely not in /etc/hosts 
 anymore or anywhere in smb.conf.  It only shows up in 
 gencache.tdb in the files /var/lib/samba even though I keep 
 deleting that file when I restart.
 
 WINS is a total mystery to me.  How is this supposed to work?
 
 -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
 On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 12:00pm, Paul Raines wrote:
 
  I have no idea what the WINS server is except that I am sure it 
  running on Windows since they are totally Windows-based 
 organization.  
  So the WINS server is definitely the problem?  When I talk 
 to them and 
  mention I am using Samba on Linux they may totally just say 
 we don't support it and hang up.
 
  It seems a strange design that a WINS server can take 
 precedence over 
  my explicit password server setting in my smb.conf file.
 
  -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
  On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:21am, Robert Adkins II wrote:
 
  More information is required.
  
  What is the WINS server running OS wise? Can you work with the IT 
  Staff in charge of that WINS Server?
  
  --
  
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Raines [mailto:rai...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:16 AM
  To: Robert Adkins II
  Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: RE: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
  
  
  I am not running winbindd on the server.  I am using the 
 WINS server 
  of my hospital which I have no control over.
  
  I have already tried deleting browse.dat (I do not see 
 the other two 
  files anywhere) to no avail.
  
  So my fear is that this is all happening because the WINS 
 server is 
  refusing to recognize the change since I cannot do anything about 
  it. Is that the issue?  Is there anyway to force a WINS server to 
  change the IP it has a for domain master browser?
  
  -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
  
  
  
  On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:59am, Robert Adkins II wrote:
  
  It's most likely that your server has the old IP Address
  Cached in the
  wins.dat, browse.dat, browse.tdb.
  
  I recommend the following:
  
  Shutdown the windbind, nmbd and smbd services.
  
  Back up each of the above mentioned files.
  
  Delete the original above named files.
  
  Restart your services and then see if you can connect.
  
  You may also need to edit your samba configuration file 
 to point to 
  the new server IP Address as the PDC Master Browser. 
 (Assuming you 
  didn't already do
  that.)
  
  The problem is that your server is telling clients to
  attempt to find
  it on a network that no longer exists.
  
  --
  
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins II
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Paul Raines
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:41 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
  
  
  I had to move my RedHat 5 box acting as a PDC to a new IP
  address. It
  is running samba 3.5.10.  After the move, none of my
  windows or linux
  samba clients worked anymore.  I tried rejoining some to
  the domain,
  but would get error
  
  Unable to find a suitable server
  Join to domain 'MRIRESEARCH' is not valid
  
  
  The old PDC IP address is 132.183.202.95 and nothing is 
 at that IP 
  anymore (for 4 days now).  The new IP is 172.21.21.35
  
  I ran 'net -d 10 join' and would see it was still trying
  to connect
  to the old IP address.  I tried 'net cache flush' to no 
 avail.  I 
  shut down samba, removed every file in /var/cache/samba
  and still no
  change.
  It tries to go to the old IP address.
  
  On the PDC box, I increase 'os level' from 60 to 70,
  stopped the nmbd
  and smbd processes, did a 'net flush cache' and 
 restarted nmbd and 
  smbd. Still it fails and the nmbd log as the following.
  
  ==
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:857(main)
 nmbd version 3.5.10-0.110

Re: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose

[Robert Adkins II]

Great to see!

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Regards,
Robert Adkins 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Raines [mailto:rai...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:45 AM
 To: Robert Adkins II
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
 I emailed the admins and they said they removed the old IP address
 from the WINS server and that seemed to fix things.
 
 -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
 On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 9:37am, Robert Adkins II wrote:
 
  I think you can/should have them remove the PDC from their 
 WINS entry 
  on their end and then you can rejoin the network with the 
 new IP Address.
 
  Outside of that, I can only suggest looking into how to 
 send an update 
  to a record on a WINS server from a Samba PDC. I'm unsure 
 if that is 
  possible as I have only run a fully Windows or a Linux/Samba with 
  Windows Clients as a network.
 
 
  --
 
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Paul Raines
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:24 PM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: Re: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
  It is definitely an issue with the WINS server which 
 returns the old 
  IP address
 
  # nmblookup -U 172.27.88.81 -R 'MRIRESEARCH#1b'
  querying MRIRESEARCH on 172.27.88.81
  132.183.202.95 MRIRESEARCH1b
 
  SO it is not automatically picking up the IP change which 
 happened 4 
  days ago and I have restarted samba on my PDC several 
 times.  The old 
  IP is definitely not in /etc/hosts anymore or anywhere in 
 smb.conf.  
  It only shows up in gencache.tdb in the files /var/lib/samba even 
  though I keep deleting that file when I restart.
 
  WINS is a total mystery to me.  How is this supposed to work?
 
  -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
  On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 12:00pm, Paul Raines wrote:
 
  I have no idea what the WINS server is except that I am sure it 
  running on Windows since they are totally Windows-based
  organization.
  So the WINS server is definitely the problem?  When I talk
  to them and
  mention I am using Samba on Linux they may totally just say
  we don't support it and hang up.
 
  It seems a strange design that a WINS server can take
  precedence over
  my explicit password server setting in my smb.conf file.
 
  -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
  On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:21am, Robert Adkins II wrote:
 
  More information is required.
 
  What is the WINS server running OS wise? Can you work 
 with the IT 
  Staff in charge of that WINS Server?
 
  --
 
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Raines [mailto:rai...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:16 AM
  To: Robert Adkins II
  Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: RE: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
  I am not running winbindd on the server.  I am using the
  WINS server
  of my hospital which I have no control over.
 
  I have already tried deleting browse.dat (I do not see
  the other two
  files anywhere) to no avail.
 
  So my fear is that this is all happening because the WINS
  server is
  refusing to recognize the change since I cannot do 
 anything about 
  it. Is that the issue?  Is there anyway to force a WINS 
 server to 
  change the IP it has a for domain master browser?
 
  -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
  On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:59am, Robert Adkins II wrote:
 
  It's most likely that your server has the old IP Address
  Cached in the
  wins.dat, browse.dat, browse.tdb.
 
  I recommend the following:
 
  Shutdown the windbind, nmbd and smbd services.
 
  Back up each of the above mentioned files.
 
  Delete the original above named files.
 
  Restart your services and then see if you can connect.
 
  You may also need to edit your samba configuration file
  to point to
  the new server IP Address as the PDC Master Browser.
  (Assuming you
  didn't already do
  that.)
 
  The problem is that your server is telling clients to
  attempt to find
  it on a network that no longer exists.
 
  --
 
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins II
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of 
 Paul Raines
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:41 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
  I had to move my RedHat 5 box acting as a PDC to a new IP
  address. It
  is running samba 3.5.10.  After the move, none of my
  windows or linux
  samba clients worked anymore.  I tried rejoining some to
  the domain,
  but would get error
 
  Unable to find a suitable server Join to domain 
 'MRIRESEARCH' is 
  not valid
 
 
  The old PDC IP address is 132.183.202.95 and nothing is
  at that IP
  anymore (for 4 days now).  The new IP is 172.21.21.35
 
  I ran 'net -d 10 join

Re: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose

[Robert Adkins II]

It's most likely that your server has the old IP Address Cached in the
wins.dat, browse.dat, browse.tdb.

I recommend the following:

Shutdown the windbind, nmbd and smbd services.

Back up each of the above mentioned files.

Delete the original above named files.

Restart your services and then see if you can connect.

You may also need to edit your samba configuration file to point to the new
server IP Address as the PDC Master Browser. (Assuming you didn't already do
that.)

The problem is that your server is telling clients to attempt to find it on
a network that no longer exists.

--

Regards,
Robert Adkins II

 

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Paul Raines
 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:41 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
 I had to move my RedHat 5 box acting as a PDC to a new IP 
 address. It is running samba 3.5.10.  After the move, none of 
 my windows or linux samba clients worked anymore.  I tried 
 rejoining some to the domain, but would get error
 
 Unable to find a suitable server
 Join to domain 'MRIRESEARCH' is not valid
 
 
 The old PDC IP address is 132.183.202.95 and nothing is at 
 that IP anymore (for 4 days now).  The new IP is 172.21.21.35
 
 I ran 'net -d 10 join' and would see it was still trying to 
 connect to the old IP address.  I tried 'net cache flush' to 
 no avail.  I shut down samba, removed every file in 
 /var/cache/samba and still no change.
 It tries to go to the old IP address.
 
 On the PDC box, I increase 'os level' from 60 to 70, stopped 
 the nmbd and smbd processes, did a 'net flush cache' and 
 restarted nmbd and smbd. Still it fails and the nmbd log as 
 the following.
 
 ==
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:857(main)
nmbd version 3.5.10-0.110.el5_8 started.
Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716397,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:160(add_logon_names)
add_domain_logon_names:
Attempting to become logon server for workgroup 
 MRIRESEARCH on subnet 172.21.21.35
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716599,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:160(add_logon_names)
add_domain_logon_names:
Attempting to become logon server for workgroup 
 MRIRESEARCH on subnet 192.168.0.150
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716671,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:160(add_logon_names)
add_domain_logon_names:
Attempting to become logon server for workgroup 
 MRIRESEARCH on subnet UNICAST_SUBNET
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716768,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:337(become_domain_master_browser_wins)
become_domain_master_browser_wins:
Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup 
 MRIRESEARCH, subnet UNICAST_SUBNET.
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716828,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:351(become_domain_master_browser_wins)
become_domain_master_browser_wins: querying WINS server 
 from IP 0.0.0.0 for domain master browser name 
 MRIRESEARCH1b on workgroup MRIRESEARCH
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.722744,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:121(become_logon_server_success)
become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server 
 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet UNICAST_SUBNET
 [2012/09/04 10:09:25.722928,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:235(become_domain_master_query_success)
become_domain_master_query_success:
There is already a domain master browser at IP 
 132.183.202.95 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH registered on subnet 
 UNICAST_SUBNET.
 [2012/09/04 10:09:29.096239,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:121(become_logon_server_success)
become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server 
 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet 172.21.21.35
 [2012/09/04 10:09:29.096382,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:121(become_logon_server_success)
become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server 
 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet 192.168.0.150
 [2012/09/04 10:09:49.731244,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:395(become_local_master_stage2)
*
 
Samba name server PDC-NMR is now a local master browser 
 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet 172.21.21.35
 
*
 [2012/09/04 10:09:49.731468,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:395(become_local_master_stage2)
*
 
Samba name server PDC-NMR is now a local master browser 
 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet 192.168.0.150
 
*
 [2012/09/04 10:10:10.732440,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:247(domain_master_node_status_fail)
domain_master_node_status_fail:
Doing a node status request to the domain master browser
for workgroup MRIRESEARCH at IP 132.183.202.95 failed.
Cannot sync browser lists.
 [2012/09/04 10:10:10.732636,  0] 
 nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:247(domain_master_node_status_fail)
domain_master_node_status_fail:
Doing a node status request to the domain master browser
for workgroup MRIRESEARCH at IP 132.183.202.95 failed.
Cannot sync browser lists.
 
 =
 
 Where

Re: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose

[Robert Adkins II]

More information is required.

What is the WINS server running OS wise? Can you work with the IT Staff in
charge of that WINS Server?

--

Regards,
Robert Adkins 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Raines [mailto:rai...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:16 AM
 To: Robert Adkins II
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
 I am not running winbindd on the server.  I am using the WINS 
 server of my hospital which I have no control over.
 
 I have already tried deleting browse.dat (I do not see the 
 other two files anywhere) to no avail.
 
 So my fear is that this is all happening because the WINS 
 server is refusing to recognize the change since I cannot do 
 anything about it. Is that the issue?  Is there anyway to 
 force a WINS server to change the IP it has a for domain 
 master browser?
 
 -- Paul Raines (http://help.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu)
 
 
 
 On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:59am, Robert Adkins II wrote:
 
  It's most likely that your server has the old IP Address 
 Cached in the 
  wins.dat, browse.dat, browse.tdb.
 
  I recommend the following:
 
  Shutdown the windbind, nmbd and smbd services.
 
  Back up each of the above mentioned files.
 
  Delete the original above named files.
 
  Restart your services and then see if you can connect.
 
  You may also need to edit your samba configuration file to point to 
  the new server IP Address as the PDC Master Browser. (Assuming you 
  didn't already do
  that.)
 
  The problem is that your server is telling clients to 
 attempt to find 
  it on a network that no longer exists.
 
  --
 
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins II
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Paul Raines
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:41 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Changed PDC IP, all hell broke lose
 
 
  I had to move my RedHat 5 box acting as a PDC to a new IP 
 address. It 
  is running samba 3.5.10.  After the move, none of my 
 windows or linux 
  samba clients worked anymore.  I tried rejoining some to 
 the domain, 
  but would get error
 
  Unable to find a suitable server
  Join to domain 'MRIRESEARCH' is not valid
 
 
  The old PDC IP address is 132.183.202.95 and nothing is at that IP 
  anymore (for 4 days now).  The new IP is 172.21.21.35
 
  I ran 'net -d 10 join' and would see it was still trying 
 to connect 
  to the old IP address.  I tried 'net cache flush' to no avail.  I 
  shut down samba, removed every file in /var/cache/samba 
 and still no 
  change.
  It tries to go to the old IP address.
 
  On the PDC box, I increase 'os level' from 60 to 70, 
 stopped the nmbd 
  and smbd processes, did a 'net flush cache' and restarted nmbd and 
  smbd. Still it fails and the nmbd log as the following.
 
  ==
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:857(main)
 nmbd version 3.5.10-0.110.el5_8 started.
 Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2010
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716397,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:160(add_logon_names)
 add_domain_logon_names:
 Attempting to become logon server for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on 
  subnet 172.21.21.35
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716599,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:160(add_logon_names)
 add_domain_logon_names:
 Attempting to become logon server for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on 
  subnet 192.168.0.150
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716671,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:160(add_logon_names)
 add_domain_logon_names:
 Attempting to become logon server for workgroup MRIRESEARCH on 
  subnet UNICAST_SUBNET
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716768,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:337(become_domain_master_browser_wins)
 become_domain_master_browser_wins:
 Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup 
  MRIRESEARCH, subnet UNICAST_SUBNET.
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.716828,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:351(become_domain_master_browser_wins)
 become_domain_master_browser_wins: querying WINS server from IP 
  0.0.0.0 for domain master browser name MRIRESEARCH1b on 
 workgroup 
  MRIRESEARCH
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.722744,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:121(become_logon_server_success)
 become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server for 
  workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet UNICAST_SUBNET
  [2012/09/04 10:09:25.722928,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:235(become_domain_master_query_success)
 become_domain_master_query_success:
 There is already a domain master browser at IP
  132.183.202.95 for workgroup MRIRESEARCH registered on subnet 
  UNICAST_SUBNET.
  [2012/09/04 10:09:29.096239,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:121(become_logon_server_success)
 become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server for 
  workgroup MRIRESEARCH on subnet 172.21.21.35
  [2012/09/04 10:09:29.096382,  0]
  nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:121(become_logon_server_success)
 become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server

Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser

[Robert Adkins II]

There is no wins.dat or browse.dat anywhere on my server.

I am surprised to find this to be the case.

I do not have a machine on my network with the IP Address in question.

Regards,
Robert
 

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Gaiseric Vandal
 Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:46 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
 In the /var/samba/locks directory you may have browse.dat file  or
 wins.*  (if this is a WINS server) files that have incorrect info.   
 You should be able to name/backup these  files and restart nmbd.  
 
 Is the phantom master browser a samba server or a Windows 
 machine?  the Samba DC normally should win browser elections 
 but it is not always the case.
 
  
 
 
 On 07/20/12 09:08, Robert Adkins II wrote:
  I brought up the old server and have been reviewing the log files.
 
  There is no indication of the phantom master browser 
 existing in the 
  old log files.
 
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  Regards,
  Robert Adkins II
  IT Manager/Buyer
  Impel Industries, Inc.
  586-254-5800
 
   
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert 
 Adkins II
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:50 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
  There's a phantom domain master browser showing up in my Samba 
  nmbd.log file.
   
  I keep thinking that maybe it is left over in one of the 
 files that I 
  transferred over from the old server to the new server and 
 it isn't 
  clearing itself out. Is there a way to clear that and is 
 it possible 
  to have a phantom browser fighting over the Domain from a 
 copied over 
  file?
   
  I transferred all of the Samba files found in /etc/samba 
 to the new 
  server.
   
  This was also an upgrade from Samba 3.2.7 to Samba 3.6.3
   
  I have noticed some additional files in the /var/log/Samba 
 directory 
  as well as some additional files in the /etc/samba 
 directory on the 
  new server.
   
   
   
 
 
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  Robert Adkins II
  IT Manager/Buyer
  Impel Industries, Inc. 
  586-254-5800
 
   
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Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser

[Robert Adkins II]

Nevermind. I found them.

I also performed the below suggestions and the phantom IP address is still
there, fighting for control of the network.


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Robert Adkins

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Adkins II [mailto:radk...@impelind.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:54 AM
 To: 'gaiseric.van...@gmail.com'; 'samba@lists.samba.org'
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
 There is no wins.dat or browse.dat anywhere on my server.
 
 I am surprised to find this to be the case.
 
 I do not have a machine on my network with the IP Address in question.
 
 Regards,
 Robert
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Gaiseric Vandal
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:46 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
  
  In the /var/samba/locks directory you may have browse.dat file  or
  wins.*  (if this is a WINS server) files that have 
 incorrect info.   
  You should be able to name/backup these  files and restart nmbd.  
  
  Is the phantom master browser a samba server or a Windows machine?  
  the Samba DC normally should win browser elections but it is not 
  always the case.
  
   
  
  
  On 07/20/12 09:08, Robert Adkins II wrote:
   I brought up the old server and have been reviewing the log files.
  
   There is no indication of the phantom master browser
  existing in the
   old log files.
  
   --
  
   Regards,
   Robert Adkins II
   IT Manager/Buyer
   Impel Industries, Inc.
   586-254-5800
  

  
   -Original Message-
   From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
   [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert
  Adkins II
   Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:50 AM
   To: samba@lists.samba.org
   Subject: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
  
   There's a phantom domain master browser showing up in my Samba 
   nmbd.log file.

   I keep thinking that maybe it is left over in one of the
  files that I
   transferred over from the old server to the new server and
  it isn't
   clearing itself out. Is there a way to clear that and is
  it possible
   to have a phantom browser fighting over the Domain from a
  copied over
   file?

   I transferred all of the Samba files found in /etc/samba
  to the new
   server.

   This was also an upgrade from Samba 3.2.7 to Samba 3.6.3

   I have noticed some additional files in the /var/log/Samba
  directory
   as well as some additional files in the /etc/samba
  directory on the
   new server.



  
  
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Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser

[Robert Adkins II]

Two things:

1. There is no active hosts on my network using that IP Address.

2. There are entries for the Phantom Domain Master Browser, they are
pointing to the following:

[Domain Name]#1c {string of #'s} -Phantom Server IP Address-
*Current Samba Server IP Address*

[Domain Name]#1b {string of #'s} -Phantom Server IP Address-
*Current Samba Server IP Address*

There are no single entries with the phantom IP Address.

I have also run an nmap scan of the entire network, there is nothing
listed as using the Phantom IP Address, we do not use Wireless and there is
nothing plugged into any of the network jacks that I am unaware of, every
port is accounted for.

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Regards,
Robert Adkins 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dale Schroeder [mailto:d...@briannassaladdressing.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:33 PM
 To: Robert Adkins II
 Cc: Samba
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
 Robert,
 
 Assuming one of the files you found was wins.dat, is there an 
 entry for the offending IP with a corresponding hostname?
 Knowing the source should surely help with troubleshooting.
 
 Dale
 
 
 On 08/29/2012 10:08 AM, Robert Adkins II wrote:
  Nevermind. I found them.
 
  I also performed the below suggestions and the phantom IP 
 address is 
  still there, fighting for control of the network.
 
 
  --
 
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins
 

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Adkins II [mailto:radk...@impelind.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:54 AM
  To: 'gaiseric.van...@gmail.com'; 'samba@lists.samba.org'
  Subject: RE: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
  There is no wins.dat or browse.dat anywhere on my server.
 
  I am surprised to find this to be the case.
 
  I do not have a machine on my network with the IP Address 
 in question.
 
  Regards,
  Robert

 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of 
 Gaiseric Vandal
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:46 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
  In the /var/samba/locks directory you may have browse.dat file  or
  wins.*  (if this is a WINS server) files that have
  incorrect info.
  You should be able to name/backup these  files and restart nmbd.
 
  Is the phantom master browser a samba server or a Windows machine?
  the Samba DC normally should win browser elections but it is not 
  always the case.
 

 
 
  On 07/20/12 09:08, Robert Adkins II wrote:
  I brought up the old server and have been reviewing the 
 log files.
 
  There is no indication of the phantom master browser
  existing in the
  old log files.
 
  --
 
  Regards,
  Robert Adkins II
  IT Manager/Buyer
  Impel Industries, Inc.
  586-254-5800
 

 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert
  Adkins II
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:50 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
  There's a phantom domain master browser showing up in my Samba 
  nmbd.log file.

  I keep thinking that maybe it is left over in one of the
  files that I
  transferred over from the old server to the new server and
  it isn't
  clearing itself out. Is there a way to clear that and is
  it possible
  to have a phantom browser fighting over the Domain from a
  copied over
  file?

  I transferred all of the Samba files found in /etc/samba
  to the new
  server.

  This was also an upgrade from Samba 3.2.7 to Samba 3.6.3

  I have noticed some additional files in the /var/log/Samba
  directory
  as well as some additional files in the /etc/samba
  directory on the
  new server.



 
 
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[Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser

[Robert Adkins II]

There's a phantom domain master browser showing up in my Samba nmbd.log
file.
 
I keep thinking that maybe it is left over in one of the files that I
transferred over from the old server to the new server and it isn't clearing
itself out. Is there a way to clear that and is it possible to have a
phantom browser fighting over the Domain from a copied over file?
 
I transferred all of the Samba files found in /etc/samba to the new server.
 
This was also an upgrade from Samba 3.2.7 to Samba 3.6.3
 
I have noticed some additional files in the /var/log/Samba directory as well
as some additional files in the /etc/samba directory on the new server.
 
 
 


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Re: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser

[Robert Adkins II]

I brought up the old server and have been reviewing the log files.

There is no indication of the phantom master browser existing in the old log
files.

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IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800

 

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert Adkins II
 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:50 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] Phantom Domain Master Browser
 
 There's a phantom domain master browser showing up in my 
 Samba nmbd.log file.
  
 I keep thinking that maybe it is left over in one of the 
 files that I transferred over from the old server to the new 
 server and it isn't clearing itself out. Is there a way to 
 clear that and is it possible to have a phantom browser 
 fighting over the Domain from a copied over file?
  
 I transferred all of the Samba files found in /etc/samba to 
 the new server.
  
 This was also an upgrade from Samba 3.2.7 to Samba 3.6.3
  
 I have noticed some additional files in the /var/log/Samba 
 directory as well as some additional files in the /etc/samba 
 directory on the new server.
  
  
  
 
 
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 Regards,
 Robert Adkins II
 IT Manager/Buyer
 Impel Industries, Inc. 
 586-254-5800 
 
  
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[Samba] Migrated Server Hardware - Now Experiencing Some Client Drops

[Robert Adkins II]

I have recently upgrade the hardware that the Samba server was running on.
 
This also included an OS and Samba version upgrade.
 
Old Server
OpenSuSe 11.1
Samba 3.2.7
 
New Server
OpenSuSe 12.1
Samba 3.6.3
 
I moved over everything located in the /etc/samba directory from the old
hardware to the new hardware.
 
I set the new server to use the same IP Address, services, hostname. The
only difference between the two servers (besides hardware) is the OS and the
Samba revision.
 
It's been about two weeks now and since the switch, I have had between none
and upwards of three clients losing connection to the server for a short
period of time. The clients do not show anything beyond themselves and maybe
one other workstation on the network for upwards of 5 minutes. I have seen
the following error in the log.nmbd file:
 
[2012/07/13 10:55:06,  0]
nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:486(get_domain_master_name_node_status_fail)
  get_domain_master_name_node_status_fail:
  Doing a node status request to the domain master browser at IP
192.168.254.57 failed.
 
Which has not repeated for several hours. In searching through my DHCP lease
log, ip address 192.168.254.57 is no longer leased and it is not holding the
hostname of the PC that had that address.
 
My smb.conf file has the OS Level set to 65, which should be high enough to
be the master browser for the network. I also have the DHCP server providing
the server's address as the WINS Server and the smb.conf file has WINS
Support active and I am running the Winbind server.
 
Is there a log level that may show me more information as to what might be
duking it out with the new Samba Server? (The old server is not longer
connected to the network, it is available only as a last resort back-up at
this time.)



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Re: [Samba] speed of samba vs Windows

[Robert Adkins II]

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:07 AM
 To: Todor Fassl
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] speed of samba vs Windows
 
 On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Todor Fassl wrote:
 
  Is there any reason to believe that a samba server would be slower 
  when serving up roaming profiles than a real Windows server?
 
 In my experience, Samba is much faster than Windows on 
 comparable hardware. From 3 to 5 times faster, depending on function.
 

Samba is also far more versatile and configurable than Windows
Server.

For instance, built into Samba it's possible to configure a Recycle
Bin into each and every share. This is accomplished through adding a single
line to the share. To do that on Windows, it requires a registry hack, on
each workstation. Maybe that can be automated, but it doesn't have anything
to do with the server, it's all done on the workstation, forget to implement
the registry hack, then you forget about having a Recycle Bin on that share.

I can't tell you how many times that Samba configuration has saved a
piece of critical data.

  Our Windows guy insists samba is slow but I don't believe it.  He 
  claims that when you load a roamng profile, Windows downloads only 
  files that have changed and samba downloads everything. But 
 he doesn't 
  know anything about samba and I don't know where he got that from.
 
 Indeed he doesn't know anything about Samba; he's wrong.
 
 Steve

  I concur.

-Rob

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[Samba] Migrating to new hardware

[Robert Adkins II]

I'm looking for confirmation that what I am about to do will work.
 
My intent is to decommission the existing Samba PDC hardware and put in its
place the new hardware. I intend on having the users see no difference, in
terms of what they have/had and will continue to have available.
 
Right now I will be copying everything from the /etc/samba directory into
the same on the new server, moving from Samba 3.2x to Samba 3.6x 
 
I also intend on copying over the passwd, shadow and group files.
 
Am I missing anything?

Thanks.


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Re: [Samba] Migrating to new hardware

[Robert Adkins II]

Yeah, my plan is to scoot over the netlogin and the profiles directories as
well (and all of the data currently shared on the fileserver too).

Thanks.

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 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Gaiseric Vandal
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:07 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Migrating to new hardware
 
 Run testparm -v -  you will probably want to copy over the 
 /var/samba/locks directory
 
 lock directory = /var/samba/locks
 state directory = /var/samba/locks
 cache directory = /var/samba/locks
 pid directory = /var/samba/locks
 
 
 You also want to make sure your netlogon and profile 
 directories are replicated.
 
 I ran into some issues migrating from 3.0.x to 3.4.x.  I am 
 not sure if these changes are already in placed in 3.2.x.  In 
 3.4.x. I needed to explicitly defined a unix nobody user.
 
 guest account = smb_nobody

 
 I also had to explicitly grant admin perms to the domain 
 admins group so that they had sufficient privileges on local 
 PC's.  But I think I had made some error somewhere else, so I 
 don't think you will encounter this.
 
 I have an ldap backend, and I found with 3.4.x or 3.5.x. that 
 joining the machine to the domain had some issues relating to 
 ldap attributes being created or set properly. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 06/04/12 09:30, Robert Adkins II wrote:
  I'm looking for confirmation that what I am about to do will work.
   
  My intent is to decommission the existing Samba PDC 
 hardware and put 
  in its place the new hardware. I intend on having the users see no 
  difference, in terms of what they have/had and will 
 continue to have available.
   
  Right now I will be copying everything from the /etc/samba 
 directory 
  into the same on the new server, moving from Samba 3.2x to 
 Samba 3.6x
   
  I also intend on copying over the passwd, shadow and group files.
   
  Am I missing anything?
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
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Re: [Samba] samba with nfs mount in path and MS Office App's

[Robert Adkins II]

Review all of your permissions and confirm that those permissions are the
same for all users having this issues on the server that is sharing the NFS
share.

I have a feeling that this is a share/permissions issue as much as it could
be an NFS share issue.


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 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of free...@gmx.ch
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:30 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] samba with nfs mount in path and MS Office App's
 
 Hi Listmembers
 
 
 Problem:
 Windows Clients having problems with Microsoft Office App's 
 (Excel, Word) when the files are on the Samba Share 
 documents (which is mapped through a Windows Drive Letter 
 on the client). Two clients have MS Office 2003. They can 
 open doc Documents but when they want to save it error 
 messages are appearing (message about to less space on drive, 
 but this is a false errormessage). Saving of documents does 
 not work and MS Office crashes. Sometimes Word is crashing 
 already when the user opens a document. Same with XLS 
 document. One client has MS Office 2010. He can open and save 
 changes in Microsoft Office Documents. But saving changes, 
 even small ones, are taking 30 seconds.
 
 Clients which are using Open Office having no problems. They 
 can even open and saving the MS Office document without 
 Problem. Also with other Applications there are no problems 
 (ex. opening pdf documents, txt documents with notepad etc.).
 
 So the problems occurs only while working with this share 
 documents and using Microsoft Office. I've got another 
 share on the same Samba Server named personal. The 
 Microsoft Office clients have no problems on this share. The 
 only difference is that the path from personal share in 
 smb.conf is not a NFS Mount but a location on the harddisk of 
 the server itselve (ext3 partition).
 
 So the problem has something to do with using Samba shares 
 which have their path on NFS Mounts.
 
 
 
 
 System environment:
 
 
 Centos 5.x Server
 Samba Version  3.0.33
 
 
 
 ***Samba Config
 [global]
 workgroup = OfficeLAN
 server string = qube2
 lanman auth = Yes
 client NTLMv2 auth = Yes
 time server = Yes
 add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null 
 -g samba-clients -s /bin/false -M %u
 logon script = %U.bat
 logon drive = M:
 logon home = \\%N\profiles\%U
 logon path =
 domain logons = Yes
 os level = 65
 preferred master = Yes
 domain master = Yes
 wins server = 10.0.10.12
 wins support = Yes
 ldap ssl = no
 admin users = @sysadmin
 printer admin = @sysadmin
 cups options = raw
 
 
 [documents]
 comment = documents
 path = /home/nfs_qube2/documents
 force user = admin
 read only = No
 guest ok = Yes
 
 ***
 
 
 The documents share is on a NFS Mount which is mounted in 
 /etc/fstab 
 10.0.10.13:/vol/nfs_qube2/office-data /home/nfs_qube2 nfs 
 rw,bg,vers=3,tcp,timeo=600,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,hard,intr
 
 
 
 Thanks for any advice
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Samba] cant see data in share

[Robert Adkins II]

On my home Samba server, I had to switch the authentication from Share Level
to User Level. When I did that, my MacBook Pro with OSX 10.7 (Lion) was able
to enter the shares and access all of the files.

Prior to that, I could see that the shares existed, but was unable to access
them. All that I received was a cryptic error message.


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 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of John Kappeser
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:05 PM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] cant see data in share
 
 Hi all,
 
 i have a little problem. I installed on openSuse 11.4 samba 
 3.5.7 with standard config and only one share:
 
 [tools]
  path = /tools
  read only = No
  writable = Yes
 
 So, i can connect via my imac osx 10.6 to my home Dir and see 
 the files in there. I can connect to the share tools too, 
 but all data in there i cant see. The same from Windows pc.
 
 Here a snippet from log.smbd:
 
 [2011/08/24 18:44:14.359785,  0] smbd/dir.c:304(dptr_close)
Invalid key 0 given to dptr_close
 
 
 What does it mean?
 
 I know samba very good, but with this version (3.5.7) i have 
 a lot of trouble...
 
 Thanx a lot.
 
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Re: [Samba] windows 7 cannot connect

[Robert Adkins II]

No, you do not need to turn off all of that on Windows 7. I have had no
issues with connecting 7 different Windows 7 Professional workstations into
my network. Most of the systems here are running Windows XP Professional and
are joined to the domain.

The only issue that I have had is joining the Windows 7 systems into the
domain. I understand that it might be possible, but I haven't had the time
to really dig into that.

There might be some authentication elements within smb.conf to adjust to
allow the Windows 7 systems to authenticate users on the network, but I may
have made those adjustments quite some time ago in order to allow Windows
95, 98, NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 to all join the domain in their various
ways.

All you need is to have the Windows 7 machines in the workgroup of the
Domain or the workgroup, then create individual user accounts on the Windows
7 machines that mirror the account user IDs and passwords on the Samba
server.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
 

 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Carter
 Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:51 PM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] windows 7 cannot connect
 
 On 08/09/2011 01:42 PM, Marc Fromm wrote:
  I just set up my first windows 7 desktop.
 My condolences.
 
When I try to map a drive to the red hat linux samba 
 share it complains that the server cannot perform the 
 requested operation. Windows XP machines work with no problem.
 First, I would remove all security contexts from the Windows 7 
 workstation.  Turn the firewall off.   Turn off your virus 
 software/security software.
 
 Try again.
  The linux samba information:
  [root@finaid45 samba]$ rpm -qa | grep smb
  pam_smb-1.1.7-7.2.1
  libsmbclient-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
  gnome-vfs2-smb-2.16.2-8.el5
 
  [root@finaid45 samba]$ rpm -qa | grep samba
  samba-client-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
  samba-common-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
  samba-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
  system-config-samba-1.2.41-5.el5
 
 
 
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Re: [Samba] Very slow samba performance on Centos 6

[Robert Adkins II]

Wouldn't it be better to rerun these tests, not from the Ramdisk, but from a
network connection to more closely resemble what the results will be when in
a production environment?

Doing such tests years back did show that FTP will typically be faster than
Samba, due to the difference in overhead costs. Samba isn't a service like
FTP, it has to negotiate SMB packets, interpret the requests/commands and
then communicate that to the system it is running on. I haven't played with
CIFS, but I imagine that it to would have a similar or potentially greater
overhead than Samba itself.

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 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of vg_ us
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:12 PM
 To: volker.lende...@sernet.de
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Very slow samba performance on Centos 6
 
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 From: Volker Lendecke volker.lende...@sernet.de
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:01 AM
 To: vg_ us vg...@hotmail.com
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Very slow samba performance on Centos 6
 
  On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:49:50AM -0400, vg_ us wrote:
  I have 2 identical Dell r510 servers with 10gig card, 
 running centos
  6 with samba-3.5.4-68.el6_0.2.x86_64.
  I setup 16G ramdisk samba share on both and ran cp from 
 local ramdisk 
  to samba ramdisk mount.
  If I cp 12 1-gig files, I get combined 100MB/s transfer 
 rate. Single 
  file cp maxes out at about 15MB/s.
  Ftp transfer give me over 300MB/s.
 
  Running with 9000 MTU. Most smb.conf is default. I even disabled 
  atime and tried ext2 and xfs on ramdisk.
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
  What client application are you using? If it is a cifsfs 
 kernel mount, 
  you might see such artifacts. Please retry with the smbclient(1) 
  application. If that is also slow, we need to investigate further.
 
 
 I re-ran some of the tests with following result:
 
 Ftp ramdisk-to-ramdisk:
 13572 MB, 32.8 secs - 413.8 MB/s
 
 Ftp ramdisk-to-hardisk:
 13572 MB, 62.8 secs - 222.4 MB/s
 
 Smbclient ramdisk-to-ramdisk:
 13572 MB 40 secs - 339 MB/s
 
 Smbclient ramdisk-to-harddisk:
 13572 MB 64 secs - 212 MB/s
 
 cifsfs mount ramdisk-to-ramdisk:
 13572 MB 289.8 - 47MB/s
 
 cifsfs mounts are really slow, so what happens when linux, 
 windows and mac clients map/mount the share? Are they gonna 
 be this slow? Any way to speed it up?
 
 Thanks
 
 - Vadim 
 
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[Samba] VFS Objects Recycle questions

[Robert Adkins II]

I have a need to setup the recycle vfs object on our server. 
 
On  my test server, I have all of the shares on a single drive and have put
the following into each share:
 
vfs_objects = recycle
recycle:repository = [Actual Path and Partition that the share is located]
recycle:directory_mode = 770
recycle:keeptree = Yes
recycle:touch_mtime = Yes
recycle:versions = Yes
 
It works like a charm. All of the files when deleted from each share are
dumped into the RecycleBin share, I have created a new share just for the
RecycleBin that I have also mounted that I can perform a final delete on the
files located within.
 
On the live server, there are several partitions with shares split across
the several partitions. The setup is the same, in terms of having the above
entered into the individual shares and the RecycleBin for each share is
located on the same partition/mount point that the share is located.
 
Example:
 
[share1]
wide links = no
writeable = yes
path = /mnt/disk2/share1
write list = @share1
force group = share1
comment = Job Files and Related
valid users = @share1
create mode = 770
user = @share1
directory mode = 770
vfs_objects = recycle
recycle:repository = /mnt/disk2/sharebin/%u
recycle:directory_mode = 770
recycle:keeptree = Yes
recycle:touch_mtime = Yes
recycle:versions = Yes

[sharebin]
wide links = no
writeable = yes
path = /mnt/disk2/sharebin
write list = @share1
force directory mode = 770
force group = share1
sync always = yes
force create mode = 770
comment = Location of Recycle Bin
valid users = @share1
create mode = 770
user = @share1
directory mode = 770

Everything else matches, the folders exist, the folder permissions are the
same, it's just a no go on relinking the files on a delete command from the
share1 share.




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Re: [Samba] VFS Objects Recycle questions

[Robert Adkins II]

Please disregard.

It started working, out of the blue. (Yes, I had previously initiated my
changes, forced a restart and even waited a good handful of minutes before
performing a test delete.)

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 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert Adkins II
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:27 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] VFS Objects Recycle questions
 
 I have a need to setup the recycle vfs object on our server. 
  
 On  my test server, I have all of the shares on a single 
 drive and have put the following into each share:
  
 vfs_objects = recycle
 recycle:repository = [Actual Path and Partition that the 
 share is located] recycle:directory_mode = 770 
 recycle:keeptree = Yes recycle:touch_mtime = Yes 
 recycle:versions = Yes
  
 It works like a charm. All of the files when deleted from 
 each share are dumped into the RecycleBin share, I have 
 created a new share just for the RecycleBin that I have also 
 mounted that I can perform a final delete on the files located within.
  
 On the live server, there are several partitions with shares 
 split across the several partitions. The setup is the same, 
 in terms of having the above entered into the individual 
 shares and the RecycleBin for each share is located on the 
 same partition/mount point that the share is located.
  
 Example:
  
 [share1]
 wide links = no
 writeable = yes
 path = /mnt/disk2/share1
 write list = @share1
 force group = share1
 comment = Job Files and Related
 valid users = @share1
 create mode = 770
 user = @share1
 directory mode = 770
 vfs_objects = recycle
 recycle:repository = /mnt/disk2/sharebin/%u
 recycle:directory_mode = 770
 recycle:keeptree = Yes
 recycle:touch_mtime = Yes
 recycle:versions = Yes
 
 [sharebin]
 wide links = no
 writeable = yes
 path = /mnt/disk2/sharebin
 write list = @share1
 force directory mode = 770
 force group = share1
 sync always = yes
 force create mode = 770
 comment = Location of Recycle Bin
 valid users = @share1
 create mode = 770
 user = @share1
 directory mode = 770
 
 Everything else matches, the folders exist, the folder 
 permissions are the same, it's just a no go on relinking the 
 files on a delete command from the share1 share.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Samba] VFS Objects Recycle questions / Round Two

[Robert Adkins II]

It's working, for at least three user accounts, but it isn't working for all
user accounts.

If I attempt to delete a file through Samba while using my login, the file
just disappears, it isn't relinked into the RecycleBin. However, if other
accounts perform a delete through Samba, the file is relinked into the
RecycleBin.

Any ideas?

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 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert Adkins II
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:22 PM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] VFS Objects Recycle questions
 
 Please disregard.
 
 It started working, out of the blue. (Yes, I had previously 
 initiated my changes, forced a restart and even waited a good 
 handful of minutes before performing a test delete.)
 
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 Regards,
 Robert Adkins II
 
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org
  [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Robert Adkins II
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:27 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] VFS Objects Recycle questions
  
  I have a need to setup the recycle vfs object on our server. 
   
  On  my test server, I have all of the shares on a single drive and 
  have put the following into each share:
   
  vfs_objects = recycle
  recycle:repository = [Actual Path and Partition that the share is 
  located] recycle:directory_mode = 770 recycle:keeptree = Yes 
  recycle:touch_mtime = Yes recycle:versions = Yes
   
  It works like a charm. All of the files when deleted from 
 each share 
  are dumped into the RecycleBin share, I have created a new 
 share just 
  for the RecycleBin that I have also mounted that I can 
 perform a final 
  delete on the files located within.
   
  On the live server, there are several partitions with shares split 
  across the several partitions. The setup is the same, in terms of 
  having the above entered into the individual shares and the 
 RecycleBin 
  for each share is located on the same partition/mount point 
 that the 
  share is located.
   
  Example:
   
  [share1]
  wide links = no
  writeable = yes
  path = /mnt/disk2/share1
  write list = @share1
  force group = share1
  comment = Job Files and Related
  valid users = @share1
  create mode = 770
  user = @share1
  directory mode = 770
  vfs_objects = recycle
  recycle:repository = /mnt/disk2/sharebin/%u
  recycle:directory_mode = 770
  recycle:keeptree = Yes
  recycle:touch_mtime = Yes
  recycle:versions = Yes
  
  [sharebin]
  wide links = no
  writeable = yes
  path = /mnt/disk2/sharebin
  write list = @share1
  force directory mode = 770
  force group = share1
  sync always = yes
  force create mode = 770
  comment = Location of Recycle Bin
  valid users = @share1
  create mode = 770
  user = @share1
  directory mode = 770
  
  Everything else matches, the folders exist, the folder 
 permissions are 
  the same, it's just a no go on relinking the files on a 
 delete command 
  from the share1 share.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Samba] Unable to locate Domain Controller

[Robert Adkins]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
Ive installed Samba 3 ... however, when I try to add a machine to the domain I
get the error that the domain controller cannot be contacted... I am able to
login through \\server\folder... however, when I try to add the same machine to
the domain, I get an error saying the domain controller cannot be contacted on
the windows machine ..(winxp...)... Any ideas?
  

   There's a few things besides having the proper settings in your smb.conf

   1. If the workstation is currently in a workgroup for the domain you 
wish to join, you need to take it out of that workgroup. The current 
work group cannot match the domain you wish to join.


   2. You cannot have any mounts or even browsed connections to the 
domain controller in order to join the workstation to the domain. To 
correct this, open up the windows command prompt and type in the 
following case sensitive command:


   net use * /D

   This will disconnect ALL connections from the workstation to the 
domain controller.


   If you smb.conf file is configured properly, try the above and see 
if that corrects the issue.


   Regards,
   Rob
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Re: [Samba] Wierd Configuration

[Robert Adkins]

Rob Watkin wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have a strange network design problem and I suspect that Samba may be
part of the solution. Any suggestions welcome. :-) Here goes:

Two organisations are sharing a single network of 30 Win95/98 clients
with a few XP workstations. The network is owned and managed by a third
organisation and the Internet connection is not too hot. So far so
good :-). Org-1 wants to pay for their own Internet connection and have
asked me to help. I hope to do this using a Linux box running Samba
supporting roving profiles (which they need anyway) and Squid.

Whats more Org-3 probably wont want me changing the default gateways on
the PC's oh and worse there is _no_ DNS whatsoever!

So far I have everything working as follows. When a new user is created
her roving profile is copied from a template which already has Firefox
setup with the necessary proxy settings. When she logs in if she uses
Firefox then she will get the new fast connection but IE will deliver
the old. (By the way, this works for Firefox but not IE because the
latter saves it's configuration settings under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or
similar). I guess I will be able to handle email with Thunderbird in the
same way.

If your still with, thanks for reading so far! :-)

So if a user is a member of the Samba domain then they will
automatically get access to the new fast connection via the proxy
server.

My problem is to block access to Squid for users who have not been
authenticated into the domain(Org-2). I could get the users to log into
Squid manually but that would mean losing centralised user management.

Thanks
Rob
  
   Go to the Squid mailing list, after checking the Squid documentation 
about User Authentication.


   You should have your Squid answer fairly quickly.

   Regards,
   Rob
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Re: [Samba] Linux as PDC

[Robert Adkins]

Rob,

   Post your smb.conf file, remove identifying information or 
substitute it for something else, such as IP Address ranges and 
Server/Workgroup names. You may also wish to cut out any information 
about the shares as well.


   Beyond that, with these workstations you are attempting to join to 
the domain, are they already in a workgroup using the same name as the 
domain? Also, do they have any mounted drives on the server you are 
setting up as the Samba PDC?


   Both of those will cause a failure for Samba to allow the creation 
of computer accounts and Domain joining.


   If the computers are not part of DomainX and are part of WorkGroupY, 
but you have a share from the PDC of DomainX mounted, type the following 
in the Windows command line...


  net use * /D (Yes, with a capital D)

   This will disconnect all connections to the server and will allow 
you to join the workstation to the domain, just fine.


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   Regards,  
   Robert Adkins

   IT Manager/Buyer
   Impel Industries, Inc.

Rob Watkin wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to configure Samba as a primary domain controller so that
our local school can have roaming logins. I am using Ubuntu server
6.06.1 on i386. So far I can get everything working as a workgroup but I
can't get my windows clients to join the domain.

I have read and followed several HOWTO's but I keep hitting the same
problems. Are there any documents which explain what a PDC is and how I
can tell why my windows clients wont join my domain.

Thanks

Rob W

  


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Re: [Samba] Linux as PDC

[Robert Adkins]

Rob,

   Take your workstation and set it to the workgroup of 'testgroup' (Or 
whatever else you wish to name it), reboot the machine, then try and get 
it to join your BC Domain.


   I am not sure of the reasons, but either Windows or Samba dislikes 
trying to join a domain if it is already part of a workgroup with the 
same name as the domain.


   Also, if you have ANY mounted drives on the workstation that you are 
joining to the Domain Controller, you need to unmount those first. This 
is done thruogh the command I provided earlier and will provide again here:


   Open up the Windows command prompt.

   net use * /D (with a capital D)

   To summarize:

   1. Remove the workstation from the workgroup that matches the domain 
of the PDC. Reboot the workstation.


   2. Umount any mounted shares or connections to the server using the 
net use /D command. (If you have mounted shares remount at every login.)


   3. Join the Domain of the PDC.

   That should take care of your issue.

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   IT Manager/Buyer
   Impel Industries, Inc.

Rob Watkin wrote:

Hi Robert

I will post the latest version smb.conf file below. I have followed the
instructions in http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-
Collection/FastStart.html section Domain Controller for the most part.

I have one server (TAU) and one Windows XP client (vm-201). I can get
vm-201 to join my BC workgroup but not the domain. I am rebooting the XP
machine and restarting samba on TAU between experiments.

I have just noticed the following error in the log file which I think is
at the bottom of all this! When I try to get the XP box to join the BC
domain it asks for a username and password, I give tom ** and then
Windows says
  Computer Name Changes 
   The following error occurred attempting to join the domain BC:

   The user name could not be found.
   OK

log.smbd
===
[2006/09/01 14:39:42, 3] smbd/sec_ctx.c:pop_sec_ctx(386)
  pop_sec_ctx (1001, 100) - sec_ctx_stack_ndx = 0
useradd: unable to lock password file
[2006/09/01 14:39:42, 0] rpc_server/srv_samr_nt.c:_samr_create_user
(2415)
  _samr_create_user: Running the command `/usr/sbin/useradd -
s /bin/false/ -d /var/lib/nobody vm-201$' gave 1



smb.conf


[global]
   workgroup = BC
   netbios name = TAU
   server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)

   
   passdb backend = tdbsam

   security = user
   username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
   name resolve order = wins bcast hosts
   domain logons = yes
   os level = 35
   domain master = yes
   preferred master = yes
   wins support = yes
   
   # Set CUPS for printing

   printcap name = CUPS
   printing = CUPS
   
   # Default logon

   logon drive = H:
   logon home = \\%L\%U
   ### logon script = scripts/logon.bat
   logon script = scripts\logon.bat
   logon path = \\%L\profile\%U


   # Useradd scripts
   add user script = /usr/sbin/useradd -m %u
   delete user script = /usr/sbin/userdel -r %u
   add group script = /usr/sbin/groupadd %g
   delete group script = /usr/sbin/groupdel %g
   add user to group script = /usr/sbin/usermod -G %g %u
   add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -s /bin/false/ -
d /var/lib/nobody %u
   idmap uid = 15000-2
   idmap gid = 15000-2


   # sync smb passwords woth linux passwords
   passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
   passwd chat = *Enter\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n *Retype\snew\sUNIX
\spassword:* %n\n .
   passwd chat debug = yes
   unix password sync = yes
   
   # set the loglevel

   log level = 3


[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   valid users = %S
   read only = no
   browsable = no


[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   path = /var/spool/samba
   printer admin = root, rob
   create mask = 0600
   printable = yes
   guest ok = yes
   browsable = no

[print$]
   comment = Printer Drivers Share
   path = /var/lib/samba/drivers
   write list = rob, root
   printer admin = rob, root

[netlogon]
   comment = Network Logon Service
   path = /home/samba/netlogon
   admin users = root, rob
   guest ok = yes
   browseable = no
   ### admin users = Administrator
   ### valid users = %U
   ### read only = no


[profile]
   comment = Roaming profile share
   path = /home/samba/profiles
   read only = no
   profile acls = yes
   ### valid users = %U
   ### create mode = 0600
   ### directory mode = 0700
   ### writable = yes
   ### browsable = no

[allusers]
  comment = All Users
  path = /home/shares/allusers
  valid users = @users
  force group = users 
  create mask = 0660

  directory mask = 0771
  writable = yes


On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 09:25 -0400, Robert Adkins wrote:
  

Rob,

Post your smb.conf file, remove identifying information or 
substitute it for something else, such as IP Address ranges and 
Server/Workgroup names. You may also wish to cut out any information 
about the shares as well.


Beyond that, with these workstations

Re: [Samba] Linux as PDC

[Robert Adkins]

Logan Shaw wrote:

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Rob Watkin wrote:

I will post the latest version smb.conf file below. I have followed the
instructions in http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-
Collection/FastStart.html section Domain Controller for the most part.

I have one server (TAU) and one Windows XP client (vm-201). I can get
vm-201 to join my BC workgroup but not the domain. I am rebooting the XP
machine and restarting samba on TAU between experiments.

I have just noticed the following error in the log file which I think is
at the bottom of all this! When I try to get the XP box to join the BC
domain it asks for a username and password, I give tom ** and then


I have to admit that I myself don't understand the exact
requirements on what type of account is required here, but
it must be some sort of administrator account, not a regular
user account, that you use to join to the domain.  So you
need to use root, or possibly some other privileged account,
but I know root works.

  - Logan
   root is needed, I believe, in order for Samba to create the Machine 
Account automatically. I believe that you need to create a Samba account 
for root, if you are using the Linux passwd/groups and the smbpasswd 
files for authentication purposes.


   Rob
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Re: [Samba] ftp 8x faster than samba

[Robert Adkins]

Blaine Armsterd wrote:

Robert Adkins wrote:
   Again, I suggest that you test like things with like things, test 
a Windows server's file sharing and then Samba file sharing. Test FTP 
on a Windows server and then FTP on a Linux server and do this on a 
controlled network where only the workstation and the server are 
connected via one hub that has no other network connected to it. That 
way you can more clearly determine which is faster.


I tested the samve server and the same file over the same connection. 
There's 2 boxes on the switch here at my house. There's no more 
testing necessary. I can transfer the 723Mb file in 24 seconds using 
FTP. There's no reason for Samba to take over 2 minutes.
   Samba and FTP both have vastly differing overheads that affect the 
transfer of files. Samba (and Windows Server's Filesharing) will never 
equal FTP in performance. Neither will even come close. FTP is an 
entirely different protocol that is extremely loose and insecure.


   You are talking about comparing Oranges to Chevy Trucks. They aren't 
the same besides the fact that Oranges are commonly round and Chevy 
Trucks commonly have Round Tires on them.


   Setup a Windows Server 2003 machine and test copying that file using 
Windows Filesharing and also using an FTP Server on the Windows Server. 
That is what I mean when I say test like with like. Compare the speed of 
the Windows machine in serving that file via FTP and compare that to the 
Linux machine serving FTP, then compare both in serving SMB/CIFS 
filesharing. That is the only logical, reasonable and true test that you 
will be able to make.


   Again, I am posting this back to the Samba list. I will *NOT* 
respond to you again.


   Regards,
   Robert Adkins
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Re: [Samba] ftp 8x faster than samba

[Robert Adkins]

Yoink wrote:

Robert Adkins wrote:

Yoink wrote:


This gigabit connection should always be performing as it does under 
ftp, any advice?




   I copied a 600MB file from my workstation to our Samba server and 
it took approximately two minutes.


   I copied the same file from the Samba server to my workstation 
using the Command prompt and it took roughly 1 minute 30 seconds.


Well I should get -25% performance too, no? Mine is more like -400%.
   My test was very unscientific and it is very likely that copying the 
file took exactly the same amount of time whether I used the command 
line or the Windows GUI. I know nothing of the hardware, installation 
setup and other testing variables you have in place, such as the testing 
environment, in order to be able to answer your question.


   Again, I suggest that you test like things with like things, test a 
Windows server's file sharing and then Samba file sharing. Test FTP on a 
Windows server and then FTP on a Linux server and do this on a 
controlled network where only the workstation and the server are 
connected via one hub that has no other network connected to it. That 
way you can more clearly determine which is faster.


   I understand that there has been significant testing performed like 
the above and the last time I checked, which was more then a few years 
ago, Samba performed musch faster then Windows for file sharing. I do 
recall reading a more recent article (maybe 2 years back) that suggested 
Windows Server 2003 same closer if not equal to Samba in file serving speed.


   You would also have to look at other factors, such as the underlying 
file system used on your server. I have been assuming you are using 
Linux with Samba, if that is the case you could be using a variety of 
different file systems for your Linux partitions.


   For example, if you are using ReiserFS, then you would see a marked 
increase in reading/writing and subsequently file sharing for relatively 
small files in, I believe, the sub-32kb range as ReiserFS is tuned for 
sharing many small files very quickly. However, ReiserFS (At least the 
last version I was using) wasn't great for serving large files, like the 
700MB test file you are using.


   From what I know of EXT3FS, it is a well rounded file system that is 
neither particularly fast nor particularly slow in serving files of 
various sizes. It is a good middle ground file system and the one that I 
primarily use on my servers and other Linux installations.


   Beyond that, there are numerous other factors that can lead to a 
slowdown in file sharing speeds, which is something that I am hardly an 
expert in determining. So, I am posting this back to the list, perhaps 
someone there will be able to better advise you towards what to look into.


   Regards,
   Robert Adkins
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Re: [Samba] ftp 8x faster than samba

[Robert Adkins]

I have just been doing some more reading (Google: Samba Test Results) on 
benchmarking results and it looks like Samba is capable of performing 
upwards of 2.5 times faster then Windows 2003, especially as the number 
of clients begins to ramp up in quantity.


If you aren't getting those kind of results with direct comparisons 
between Windows File sharing and Linux File sharing on the same 
hardware, then I believe your problem is wholly unrelated to Samba.


Also, from my understanding of the differences between how FTP and both 
Windows and Samba file sharing functions, you will never receive the 
kind of speeds from either Windows or Samba that you can through FTP.


Regards,  
Robert Adkins


Robert Adkins wrote:

Yoink wrote:

Robert Adkins wrote:

Yoink wrote:


This gigabit connection should always be performing as it does 
under ftp, any advice?




   I copied a 600MB file from my workstation to our Samba server and 
it took approximately two minutes.


   I copied the same file from the Samba server to my workstation 
using the Command prompt and it took roughly 1 minute 30 seconds.


Well I should get -25% performance too, no? Mine is more like -400%.
   My test was very unscientific and it is very likely that copying 
the file took exactly the same amount of time whether I used the 
command line or the Windows GUI. I know nothing of the hardware, 
installation setup and other testing variables you have in place, such 
as the testing environment, in order to be able to answer your question.


   Again, I suggest that you test like things with like things, test a 
Windows server's file sharing and then Samba file sharing. Test FTP on 
a Windows server and then FTP on a Linux server and do this on a 
controlled network where only the workstation and the server are 
connected via one hub that has no other network connected to it. That 
way you can more clearly determine which is faster.


   I understand that there has been significant testing performed like 
the above and the last time I checked, which was more then a few years 
ago, Samba performed musch faster then Windows for file sharing. I do 
recall reading a more recent article (maybe 2 years back) that 
suggested Windows Server 2003 same closer if not equal to Samba in 
file serving speed.


   You would also have to look at other factors, such as the 
underlying file system used on your server. I have been assuming you 
are using Linux with Samba, if that is the case you could be using a 
variety of different file systems for your Linux partitions.


   For example, if you are using ReiserFS, then you would see a marked 
increase in reading/writing and subsequently file sharing for 
relatively small files in, I believe, the sub-32kb range as ReiserFS 
is tuned for sharing many small files very quickly. However, ReiserFS 
(At least the last version I was using) wasn't great for serving large 
files, like the 700MB test file you are using.


   From what I know of EXT3FS, it is a well rounded file system that 
is neither particularly fast nor particularly slow in serving files of 
various sizes. It is a good middle ground file system and the one that 
I primarily use on my servers and other Linux installations.


   Beyond that, there are numerous other factors that can lead to a 
slowdown in file sharing speeds, which is something that I am hardly 
an expert in determining. So, I am posting this back to the list, 
perhaps someone there will be able to better advise you towards what 
to look into.


   Regards,
   Robert Adkins


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Re: [Samba] ftp 8x faster than samba

[Robert Adkins]

Yoink wrote:
I've seen this problem mentioned many times in the various FAQs and 
How-Tos on the Internet, but none of the solutions presented therein 
have worked for me.


SNIP

This gigabit connection should always be performing as it does under 
ftp, any advice?




   I copied a 600MB file from my workstation to our Samba server and it 
took approximately two minutes.


   I copied the same file from the Samba server to my workstation using 
the Command prompt and it took roughly 1 minute 30 seconds.


   This was done with the Samba server acting as a Primary Domain 
Controller and with the workstation joined to the Domain. I just 
performed the above unscientific test about ten minutes ago.


   I had also performed this test when I initially switched us off of a 
Windows server and onto the Linux server about 4 years ago and the Samba 
server provided file sharing significantly faster then our previous 
Windows server had.


   From my rather limited understanding, it simply won't be possible to 
get Samba to provide the same speed as FTP, due to the serious 
difference between the layers of software that are in between FTP 
serving files and Samba serving files. For instance, FTP provides no 
real security beyond the clear text password, while Windows Filesharing 
and Samba does.


   A better and far more accurate test would be to time the transfer of 
files from a Windows Server to a Windows Workstation, via Windows 
Filesharing and then from the Linux Samba server to the Windows 
workstation with all other variables being the same. Testing like things 
is far superior to testing unlike things.


   I believe that if you were to setup a FTP server on a Windows server 
and then copy a file off that server, it would also be significantly 
faster then using Windows filesharing. I could be wrong, as fine tuning 
networking speeds and testing servers isn't part of my job.


   Regards,
   Robert Adkins

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Re: [Samba]UPDATE: Copying Windows 2K XP Profi....

[Robert Adkins]

Guido Lorenzutti wrote:
You change the domain and ONLY fix the unix permissions and you expect 
this to work?  Dream on :)
   I expected to find out what would happen. Nobody replied so I needed 
to give it a try.
 


If you need a hand, I will try to help you, I have to do this on 1800 
users a few days a go, but is to long to write if you don't need it.


   Sounds great! I still have a handful of users to switch over and a 
few of them are absolute bears if their stuff isn't exactly the same, 
all the time.


   -Rob


Robert Adkins wrote:

Robert Adkins wrote:

Hello,

   In my effort to make the switchover as smooth as possible, I am 
thinking that I could copy a user's roaming profile off their 
workstation to the profile share on the Samba 3.x server, set the 
permissions and then take the workstation off the old domain, put it 
on the new domain and then login with the user and just like that, 
be done with it.


Is this going to be problematic or is there something I could be 
missing that will cause this to backfire on me?




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[Samba] Copying Windows 2K XP Profiles to new Server

[Robert Adkins]

Hello,

   In my effort to make the switchover as smooth as possible, I am 
thinking that I could copy a user's roaming profile off their 
workstation to the profile share on the Samba 3.x server, set the 
permissions and then take the workstation off the old domain, put it on 
the new domain and then login with the user and just like that, be done 
with it.


Is this going to be problematic or is there something I could be 
missing that will cause this to backfire on me?


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Re: [Samba]UPDATE: Copying Windows 2K XP Profi....

[Robert Adkins]

Robert Adkins wrote:

Hello,

   In my effort to make the switchover as smooth as possible, I am 
thinking that I could copy a user's roaming profile off their 
workstation to the profile share on the Samba 3.x server, set the 
permissions and then take the workstation off the old domain, put it 
on the new domain and then login with the user and just like that, be 
done with it.


Is this going to be problematic or is there something I could be 
missing that will cause this to backfire on me?




   I gave it a go.

   ...and found out that it just won't fly. I reset all the permissions 
on the files to match the permissions of the newly created profile for 
the test account I created. (Save that the profile was set to be owned 
by the actual user.)


   I fired up their login on the domain, at the workstation and it 
seemed to load up fine, except Microsoft Outlooked decided that it had 
never been installed in that user account before, which it shouldn't 
have done as the users NT profile should have been downloaded to the 
workstation from the server's copy.


   Anyway, I had to delete the whole user profile and create it through 
the a fresh login and then trick MS Outlook into using the right 
files AFTER it did it's install.


   -Rob
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[Samba] Differences between 'logon home' and 'logon path'?

[Robert Adkins]

Hey All,

   I am going with creating a new Samba PDC, instead of trying to coax 
data files off of the old server at this time. Thankfully we have fewer 
then 40 workstations. So, this won't take to long.


   However, I am running into a snag. I want to duplicate much of what 
was in the old smb.conf, only I am finding a few differences and new 
parts in the 3.x line of Samba that wasn't part of the 2.x line of Samba.


   What's the difference between the 'login home' and the 'logon path'?

   Both seem to be pointing to some kind of profile, but have slightly 
different paths and slightly different end points with 'profile' in the 
line.


   Thanks,
   Rob
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[Samba] Moving Samba PDC from one server to another...

[Robert Adkins]

 ...along with upgrading from the Samba 2.2.x line to the 3.x line.

   I have been reading through the Samba documentation and haven't 
found anything regarding moving a Samba PDC from one server to another 
server and also upgrade the Samba version. Am I looking at a lengthy 
removing and rejoining of all PCs from the old domain to the new 
domain and copying over the application data from their roaming profiles 
off the old server to the new server?


   It seems like there should be an easy way to handle this.

   Thanks for any pointers to documentation covering this.

   -Rob
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Re: [Samba] grant administrator rights

[Robert Adkins]

Patrick DUBAU wrote:


Hi,

we want to give all our users all the rights on the stations, i see 2 
solutions :

- on the station goto local group administrators and add everyone
-  on the sation goto local group administrator annd add an LDAP group 
call UA (created by us with containing all ou users)



Which  way is the best in term of charge ?
Someone told to me that in the first case windows has to handle all 
the users on the stations, but in the second case only one group 
(group UA).


We have about 4000 users accounts in LDAP
Does  windows have problem handling so much users?

Thanks for any suggestion or return of experience

   I see absolutely no reason to have 4000 users setup as 
Administrators on their local machines.


   However, if you wish to go down that route (Which I think is VERY 
dangerous from a security perspective.) inside your Samba Configuration 
file, you can setup a group to act as Administrator and just add all 
of your users to that group.


   If the OS you are hosting Samba on already has a Global Users 
group that every account is automatically part of, simply add this Group 
to the line detailing which groups/users are to have Administrator rights.


   Good luck.
   Robert Adkins
   IT Manger/Buyer
   Impel Industries, Inc.
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[Samba] One SAMBA Server, two networks.

[Robert Adkins]

  Hello,

   I am making some changes to our network to split the front office 
and back office onto two seperate subnets, but need to keep the same 
Samba server in place serving both subnets.


   What I am intending to do is install an additional network card into 
the server and address this new card for the new subnet. What I am 
looking to do is properly broadcast the server's samba 
status/availability across both networks and properly serve files/domain 
controller data across both subnets.


   To do this, I intend to duplicate all the entries in the lmhosts 
file in /etc/samba with the only difference being the network that the 
server is broadcasting on.


   Will this work, or is this more complicated then I am currently seeing?

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Re: [Samba] Profiles

[Robert Adkins]

Even though it might not look like it is so, your profiles are likely 
only being stored locally.

In our case, I have a dmusers group that each user is a member of and 
the dmusers group has rw rights to the profiles directory on the server.

What Windows does is store the profile on the local machine and will 
update the 'roaming profile' on the server, if applicable. You might not 
be seeing or receiving an error message stating that they aren't able to 
update/upload the profile to the server.

Check in your Windows Event viewer to see if there are any message 
stating that.

I would also check permissions on the 'profiles' directory. It might 
need a decent alteration of the existing permissions to allow the 
profiles to be updated.

   -Rob
Miles Scruggs wrote:
I have a few weird problems with profiles on my samba PDC.  Right now I'm
just testing with two XP pro clients.  Samba is
Samba version 3.0.2a-Debian
The problems that I'm having and I believe are related are:
1.) Profiles are saved to the server, but don't migrate to different
clients.  This is very odd, I can make all sorts of changes to the profile
and I can see those changes being saved to the server.  When I log back in
those changes are loaded to the local machine, if I try to login to another
client, I see a totally separate profile.  

The kicker is that all data is being saved to the same path, but somehow it
can differenetite which client is logging in.
2.) Once the profile is created on one client, the home dir is writable to
only that client.
The home dirs and profile dir is two separate locations
/home/%u for homedirs
/home/profile/%u for profiles
Thanks for the help
Miles
 


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Re: [Samba] Hiding some stuff

[Robert Adkins]

Mário Gamito wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way i could hide netlogon, profiles, homes, etc., from my
windows 2000 users ?
Will hide files solves the issue, or is there another way ?
Any help would be appreciated.
Warm Regards,
Mário Gamito
 

   I know how to hide the netlogon and profiles directories. Put them 
somewhere on the server that isn't shared.

   I think there is also a setting within the smb.conf to not 
share/create the users 'home' directory.

   -Rob
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA and NFS

[Robert Adkins]

Eric Boehm wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 02:49:30PM -0400, bastard operater wrote:
 

bastard == bastard operater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   

   bastard Thank you for the response.  Would there still be a
   bastard performance problem if I had two NICs in the PC?  One to
   bastard connect to the NFS share and the second NIC to connect to
   bastard the windows PCs?  I am talking about a maximum of 20
   bastard people connecting to the samba share with at most 5-6
   bastard people passing data over the share.  The samba server
   bastard would be a 2.2GHz PC with 512MB of RAM.
I don't think that will help you. I am talking about the overhead of
the two protocols. 

For example, if you were access files via NFS, you might see something
like this
client - NFS - NFS server
and for samba
client - SMB (CIFS) - Samba server
However, in your example,
client - SMB (CIFS) - Samba server - NFS - NFS server
The client has to go through two network file systems to get to the
data.
 

   Not really much of a slowdown. I have that confirugation setup 
within my own network with roughly 25 users. Primarily, they are 
accessing Samba from the server hosting the files, however if need be 
those Samba shares can be accessed via NFS then Samba off the second 
Server. I configured the two servers 'identically' with the second 
server running an rsyne between the 'share' and a 'share2' over NFS, 
that way if the primary server fails, all I need to do is change umount 
'share2' and remount it as 'share' and voila no other changes are 
necesary, since the same fileshares are already available through Samba 
via both servers.

   If I wanted to, I could quickly edit the smb.conf file to change the 
'server' name the second server broadcasts and within a few minutes 
everyone will be 'reconnected' to the 'original' server.

   In my tests, there really is very little difference in performance.
   -Rob
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Re: [Samba] Samba/win2k ??

[Robert Adkins]

Sheakoski, Corey M (PKI) wrote:
They are logging onto a domain. 

   What/Who is/are logging onto a domain? Your users or your workstations?
   Is the server a Windows Running Domain Controller or do you have 
Samba setup as a Domain Controler on some form of Linux/UNIX/*BSD?

When going to map a network drive I can
bring up a list of the users on the network, so I know that the users exist.
 

   When you say users, are you referring to 'Computers' or an Active 
Directory Store of User Accounts?

it's just a matter of the password, using the win logon password doesnt work
so I'm stuck right now. thanks for your help. 
 

   With those answers I am sure that someone, either myself or others, 
could point you into the right direction.

   -Rob
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Re: [Samba] Re: want to ban XP Home Edition

[Robert Adkins]

tms3 wrote:
Well remeber all...XP Prop and XP home are teh same OS.  And w2k3 and 
XP sp2 are the same OS .  Changes are made through the registry.  Thus 
XP pro features that home doesn't have are disabled in the 
registry.  Don't know how that would affect the actual stack.  
Something to think about.

Oh yeah, and M$ is using the FreeBSD protocol stack anyway...only all 
users have root level access to it.

Aren't there a few other differences then just a a registry change 
between the two?

I believe that there is a difference, albiet small, between the XP Home 
and XP Pro kernels, in that the Home Edition will NOT use two processors 
regardless of what you do, whereas the Pro version will happily gobble 
up two CPUs. I honestly don't believe hat could be as simple as a 
registry change.

Beyond that, there are a few other differences that are designed to 
'force' people onto Windows XP Pro, if they want more 'corporate'  (in 
my case actually functional) features in an OS.

-Rob
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Re: [Samba] smbpasswd !!?!

[Robert Adkins]

Samba utilizes the UNIX File permissions for telling Windows machines 
who can do what with a file. Due to this, you have a decent User and 
Group set of controls you can place on the files/directories that you 
choose to share with Samba.

Without having users in the passwd file, Samba wouldn't be able to 
utilize those access rights.

Yeah, it can be a paine, but it does a good job.
If having multiple user account information to track is a pain, may I 
suggest converting to NIS or LDAP for user authentication?

-Rob
Alexander Varga wrote:
please help me. 
Why I cannot create a user with smbpasswd without having this username in /etc/passwd???
###
bash-2.05# smbpasswd -a testaccount
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:

Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user testaccount.
Failed to modify password entry for user testaccount
bash-2.05#
##
my global in smb.conf
[global]
  workgroup = J9_C
  server string = %h server (Samba %v)
  dns proxy = no
  log file = /usr/local/samba/var/log.%m
  passdb backend = tdbsam smbpasswd
  invalid users = root
  passwd program = /bin/passwd %u
  socket options = TCP_NODELAY
I compilled my samba using 
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/samba  --with-pam --with-pam_smbpass --with-acl-support
and made a solaris package.


 


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Re: [Samba] smbpasswd !!?!

[Robert Adkins]

Dwight Tovey wrote:
Robert Adkins said:
 

Samba utilizes the UNIX File permissions for telling Windows machines
who can do what with a file. Due to this, you have a decent User and
Group set of controls you can place on the files/directories that you
choose to share with Samba.
Without having users in the passwd file, Samba wouldn't be able to
utilize those access rights.
Yeah, it can be a paine, but it does a good job.
If having multiple user account information to track is a pain, may I
suggest converting to NIS or LDAP for user authentication?
   

I am also trying to set up a Samba server without having to define local
Unix users.  Using LDAP is fine for what we want to do.  From what you are
saying then, will I need to also install nss_ldap in order to get the
proper access control? 

   I am unsure, I have a small installation running and haven't been 
sufficiently motivated to move onto LDAP or NIS at this time. Currently, 
I stick with seperate passwd/group and smbpasswd files.

If we weren't concerned about access control,
could we just use the 'force user/group' parameters and not install
nss_ldap?
 

   I am unsure, that's something I haven't needed to research or 
implement yet.

   I am sorry that I was only as helpful as I was previously.
   -Rob
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Re: [Samba] smbpasswd !!?!

[Robert Adkins]

Alexander Varga wrote:
Thanx
...and yes. It is realy a big trouble with lot of users.  I tryed ldap, but hence my LDAP server is an Novel eDirectory, I  am not realy familiar with it and couldn't find any advice on google to configurte it right(the problem I have is to use the right filters while searchyng the LDAP accounts and rights). 
I read about winbind. ... would it be a solution for me, or better try it once again with LDAP?
I need also do manage access to directoryes with restrictions. maybe pam could do that. 
... some suggestions?

 

 Unless I am mistaken, PAM is the combination passwd/group file 
with a seperate smbpasswd file. From what you are saying, that's not 
what you want.

 LDAP is what I would focus on and only because you seem to already 
have a working LDAP installation running.. If you are still in your 
early stages with this server (If it is a Linux Server)  you could give 
it a reinstall, I know that during the (Expert) installation process of 
several different distributions you are asked what kind of 
authentication model you wish to use, I know that LDAP is one of the 
choices and it might be easier to configure that during the install then 
after the initial install of the OS. Believe me when I say this, I am 
totally lost when it comes to LDAP Authentication.and the above is just 
a guess.

   I am very far from an expert here, I am also not very familar with 
Winbind.

   I am mearly okay with a few areas of setting up Samba, nothing more.
   Good luck!
   -Rob
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[Samba] Switching Samab PDC and BDCs

[Robert Adkins]

Hello Everyone,

I am in need of making a change in how my users are
authenticated by the Samba Domain Controllers. Basically, I need to
switch the authentication to being done from the Primary Domain
Controller to the Back-up Domain Controller and still keep all the rest
of everything; the shares, login.bat files on the current PDC.

At this time, I am thinking that all I need to do is change a
few setting within the smb.conf file to make the current Samba BDC the
new PDC and the current Samba PDC the new Samba BDC. From my current
understanding, that will work out just perfectly for this situation.

Am I missing anything in general?

Thanks,
Robert Adkins 
IT Manager/Buyer
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RE: [Samba] Replace NT4 PDC

[Robert Adkins]

 
 Give yourself plenty of time - this isn't something you cobble
together in
 a
 weekend.  I did it (planning/lab/roll-out) in about 2-and-a-half
months
 and
 I feel I rushed it.  Make sure your PDC/BDC has plenty of RAM.  I've
got
 no
 less than 768M in my machines and I feel pretty comfortable with that.
 I've
 not had to hit the swap once - yet!

You must not work in The Real World, I had to make the NT 4.0
to Samba PDC change-over in three days... So, it is possible to make the
switch VERY quickly if you need to. It ended up taking another handful
of days to work out all the wrinkles of permissions and rights.

Of course, I only had one PDC and one office to deal with... I
just had no extra machines to muck about with... The real pain I had was
making the change-over to roaming profiles...

BTW, you can make a Samba BDC for a Samba PDC, within the same
office space. I have that configured right now as a fail-over system.
That took a few extra weeks to build, but in the end it has all turned
out pretty darn good.

I also have to agree that you should have as much RAM as you can
cram into those servers. With a large amount of RAM you can run an
amazing number of processes with little to no slow-down or server error.

Regards,
Robert Adkins
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.

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[Samba] Odd Samba Related issues...

[Robert Adkins]

Hello All,

I have been experiencing some slightly off issues with Samba on
our main Primary Domain Controller recently. The client systems have, on
occasion, coughed up an error stating that either the machine account or
the password for the user account is invalid, when it is in fact VERY
valid.

The server itself is rarely ever over 1.43 in load average,
determined through using Top and most of the time, the server is
hovering at less then .92 Load average. I have been unable to test, so
far, but it appears that this issue might be occurring during those
higher load average times.

This load average issue didn't exist until recently with the
addition of some synchronization scripts that run several times a day.
This scripts duplicated data from the main server to the Hot Back-up
server. So, all of this could be related to disc access.

I don't believe that it is related to the network, since the
synchronization occurs over a separate network that only the two
servers sit on, which has a separate addressing scheme as well as
physically separate NICs and a 10/100 Switch in-between them.

Any suggestions? Need more Information?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800



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[Samba] Odd Folder issue.

[Robert Adkins]

Hello All,

I have a reoccurring issue that has only started to appear
recently with Samba. What we are seeing is the mass duplication of a
folder within itself for something close to 30 iterations deep.

Sometimes this will also move the data held within the folder
one or two deep into the path.

For Example...

Let's call a share Data

Data is mounted as the N: drive on all Windows worksations.

Inside the N: Drive is a series of folders...

N:\Incoming_Data

N:\Jobs

N:\Hold

Inisde the Jobs directory there is a series of folders named
after  each job number series. Examples : 1100 1200 1300 1400, with
subfolders within each of those listing the individual jobs themselves.

Now, for some strange reason, sometimes the Jobs directory (it
has happened to other directories as well) will replicate within itself
normally moving all data directly held within it down two or three
directories, yet it will continue to replicate the Jobs folder within
itself for something like 20 to 30 iterations.

Example (ASCI Approximation of the tree)

- Data on 'Server'(N:)
+[] Hold
+[] Incoming_Data
-[-]Jobs
  -[-]Jobs
+[]1100
+[]1200
+[]1300
-[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
  -[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
  -[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
  -[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
  -[-]Jobs
-[-]Jobs
.and so on  

The system is running Red Hat 7.3 and Samba version
2.2.27-3.7.3, with Samba configured as a Primary Domain Controller.

This could also be an ext3fs related issue and thus I will be
posting this to the ext3fs mailing list as well. Although, this issue
has ONLY appeared on Samba shared directory structures.

Once fixed this issue will not show up for a few weeks or
more.

Thanks for any assistance offered.

Regards,
Robert Adkins
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.

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[Samba] Is there an easier way to add a user?

[Robert Adkins II]

Hello All,

I have a Samba PDC and Samba BDC working in our network.
Currently, I am having no problems with adding users to the network. It
is a slightly longer process then I would like to have, but it works.

I am experiencing one slight issue that may have been covered
previously, but I have been unable to locate anything on that.

Here it is...

I add a user account to the server and then to the Samba
service. When I login with that new user and start up MS Word, the
registry writing MS Word process starts up to configure Word and the
rest of MS Office for that user. I have found that unless that user is
configured, only temporarily, as a Domain Administrator, this process
will fail utterly. 

Is there some kind of work around to avoid having to have a user
temporarily configured with Domain Admin rights? As we grow over time, I
have no desire to have to manually log every new user in our network
onto their new system, make the configurations and then log them back
off and then edit them out of the domain admins group.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800

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RE: [Samba] MAJOR XP profile issue - mandrake rpms - 2.2.7a

[Robert Adkins II]

Here's what you need/should do...

First off, if both the old and new systems are using the same
encryption for passwords... 

Copy the old password containing files to the same location on
the new machine, this keeps all UID's the same...

Secondly, for Samba, setup your new Samba server to temporarily
act as a Back-up Domain Controller, then use smbpasswd -s (I believe.)
Anyway, there is a flag to smbpasswd that copies over and properly
imports the SID from one Samba DC to another.

Check the archives of this mailing list, there are more then a
few mentions of setting up a Samba BDC. Also check the Swat HTML Help,
there is a small section that will get you started with setting up a
Samba BDC. Once you have the SID copied over, then you can convert the
new server into the PDC by changing the smb.conf file.

Once you have everything in place, copying over the profiles
should work perfectly fine. Since both the domain and machine SIDs will
be identical to how they are now. 

Hopefully what little info I have tossed your way will help you
you. Good luck.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Anthony Hardy
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] MAJOR XP profile issue - mandrake rpms - 2.2.7a

problem:

migrating from one server to another .  . .physical and software
migration.
copied all profiles and am in the process of adding a new automated
system
for domain management (mysql backend, blah balh) so the uid's changed
for
each user.

this is what how i THOUGHT things would work:

1. everyone logs out
2. shutdown samba on old server
3. add new users to new server
4. transfer ALL data to new server, including profiles, setup
permissions on
files to correspond with new uids
5. finish config of smb.conf on new server, adding the proper shares,
etc .
basically a mirror of the old box.
6. start up new server . . .login 9x machines for testing.
7. rejoin all XP machines to the domain, and i should have been good to
go.

the problem lies in that once i rejoin an XP machine (testing with a
couple
right now) is that the profiles don't load properly.  the user logs in,
everything seems to be ok . in that the desktop icons are present,
custom
apps seem to work . .but pieces are broken.

for example . . .OE or outlook . broken.  it's like the ntuser.dat file
doesn't get pulled .. .

i noticed that under documents and settings on the local machines HD the
owner wasn't correct for the correct profile directory (normally, just
the
user name) and upon logging in . there was a new profile directory
created,
username.domain.  That should have been fine i thought . .as long as
the
profile was copied from the network . but it's NOT being copied .   . .
.so
i tried different machines . and various tests . from rejoining the
domain
and changing permission BEFORE logging in as the user to  . .well .
everything i can think of.

so . my question is two fold . .is there any reason an XP machine that
DID
copy profiles from the network BEFORE the change wouldn't copy them now?
logon path and logon home variables are the SAME and my 9x machines WORK
fine . .i've got about 100 XP machines out there tho .  .and i NEED this
to
work . .or i'm going to attempt to go back to the old server.

last question . what is the proper profile directory . . username or
username.domain and what is the presence of these two directories
telling me
. if anything?

any help is appreciated GREATLY.

Anthony Hardy
Director of MIS
Jefferson Davis Community College
AIM: trist1066
Yahoo: trist1066
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icq 1221725

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RE: [Samba] who to copy a registry file between users?

[Robert Adkins II]

Ricardo,

Do you think that it is possible to export that registry entry
and then add a line or two to a new users login.bat file that will
import that registry entry into their profile? I am far from an expert
with the Windows registry, but I do believe that there is a command line
application that will import registry entries and with the right flag,
it will take care of the prompts.

At the very worst, I think that you would have to give the new
user instructions to click on the yes button, once the exported
registry is run.

You could work the user's login.bat script to be automatically
changed to a script that no longer contains that registry import line,
or you could make sure that you manually edit that line out after
creating the user account.

I believe that will fix your issue.

Beyond that, I would definitely like to know any other ideas on
working through this issue. 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ricardo Cordeiro
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] who to copy a registry file between users?

Hi,

I wounder if someone else had this same problem that I have, and solved
it.
So here it goes...

I have 15 WinXP Pro workstations, on a Domain controlled by a Samba
2.2.8.
The domain has 36 users, each with an independent roaming profile, on
the
PDC.

Every machine have Adobe Premiere installed. However Premiere's
configuration is saved on each user's registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive.
So I
have to find a way to get the correspondent registry tree in each
ntuser.dat
file. The question is how?

I have tried copying a configured ntuser.dat and overwriting the ones on
every other profile. It didn't work, and I guess it's because of the
SIDs,
right?

6 months ago, I got around the problem, by configuring a profile,
logging on
a test BOX, and copying the profile to the default user's one. Them
erasing
all the users' roaming profiles, on the PDC and logging on each of them
on
the test box. It solved the problem then, but right now, most of the
user's
have changed passwords, and sooner or later, I'll have to add more
users,
and that kind of task would be mindless.

So I'm striving to find another way to work around this problem. I have
Microsoft's TechNet software collection, but don't know how to find a
usefull app. It looks like trying to find a needle on a hay stack :).

So I'm wondering if someone else had the same problem, or has any
ideias.

I would really appreciate any help or thoughts.

Thanks in advance,
Ricardo Cordeiro



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RE: [Samba] Security =Domain problems

[Robert Adkins II]

Beau,

You might want to consider updating to the latest version of
Samba and then give your configuration another go. It is possible that a
component relating to what your issue is has been updated and could fix
your issue.

If after updating to the latest release and the problem still
exists, then repost to the list. (I have seen a few issues rectified
with a simple Samba update. So, it might work in your case too.)

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Beau Hunter
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Security =Domain problems

Hey all,
Posted this about a week ago, have received no response, so I¹ll try
again:

I¹m currently trying to setup my box (samba 2.2.3a) to authenticate to a
win2k AD PDC.  I am currently importing users via LDAP, AD user
authentication is working like a champ, however, SMB authentication is
not.
I can get it to work if I take out security=domain and change encrypt
passwords to NO. 
The following configuration works perfectly (albeit with plaintext
passwords) :

Security = USER
Encrypt passwords = NO
Password server = ADPDC1

However, if I change it to this, it¹s broken:

Security = DOMAIN
Encrypt passwords = YES
Password server = ADPDC1

When trying to log in, authentication is broken.  I¹ve succesfully
joined
the domain from my box using:

Smbpasswd ­j domain ­r ADPDC1 ­u Administrator

The problem is that there are a ton of 98 boxes logging on to this
machine,
including remote users, and it¹s impossible to set them all up to use
clear
text.  My guess is that this is a setting on my Active directory
machine,
but I haven¹t been able to find it.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
All
help is appreciated greatly.

-- 
Beau Hunter
Technical Consultant
Wedgetail Consulting
206-632-7228
www.wedgetailtechs.com

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RE: [Samba] New Files in Samba

[Robert Adkins II]

Hello,

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Eric Halverson
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:37 AM
To: Jaques Metz
Cc: Samba List
Subject: Re: [Samba] New Files in Samba

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 08:31, Jaques Metz wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I've configured Samba to work as a dedicated file server, but when a
user create a new file in the shared directory, only this user can os
access this file. What should I do to change this?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Jaques Metz

The answer is simple...

Let's say that you have a partition labeled share and inside
it are a number of directories that you are sharing...

cd in to the share partition...

Then run this command...

chmod -R g+s *

What that will do is cause all files folders and sub-directories
to be created with the same group ownership as group user that access
and creates such files and folders. What you will end up with is the
following when running a ls -l :


[EMAIL PROTECTED] share]# ls -l
total 84
drwxrwsrwx3 root account  4096 Jan  9 10:57 account
drwxrws---   29 root cad  4096 Mar 26 18:26 cad
drwxr-x---5 root root 4096 Jan 20 11:13 configurations
drwxrws---   26 root docs 4096 Mar 25 12:11 docs
drwxrws---   31 root inspect  4096 Mar 27 07:07 inspect
drwxrws---3 root jboss4096 Mar 27 09:43 jobboss
drwxrws---2 root laser4096 Mar 27 10:09 laser
drwxr-x---2 root root 4096 Mar 21 08:58 logfiles
drwxrwS---2 root root16384 Jul 16  2002 lost+found
drwxrws---3 root mail 4096 Jan 22 14:05 mail
drwxrws---   12 root mill 4096 Mar 27 10:08 mill
drwxrws---   18 root dmusers  4096 Mar 24 13:55 profiles
drwxrws---   27 root public   4096 Mar 26 16:02 public
drwxrws---   14 radkins  purchasi 8192 Mar 27 10:00 purchasing
drwxrws---9 dgillesp qsman4096 Mar  3 11:59 qs9000
drwxrws---2 root quotes   4096 Dec  5 10:33 quotes
drwxrws---2 root shipping 4096 Feb 22 09:06 shipping

If you know how the above output is read... The first listing
shows what the files or directories are. The first group of 3 after the
'd' (which designates directory), refers to a user account, which in the
case of most of the directories is root. The second group of 3
characters refers to the group, which can easily be seen above. The
final group of 3 refers to world (meaning EVERYONE on the system)
rights. 

If you are looking to fully utilize user and group security
rights, then the final set of three should be --- like they are above.
In the case of the second set of 3, the 's' denotes that all files and
folders created within those directories will have the same group
ownership rights attached to them.

With this you can create a number of nested group/user rights.

You'll want to look at the create mask (or create mode) options in that
share.  If you want rwx access for the creator and primary group,
create
mask would be 0770, if you want full access for everyone to have full
access to the files, create mask would reflect 0777.  Just make sure
that your create mask corresponds with the linux/unix file permission
structure.

For the LOVE OF GOD, please refrain from using the number method
when running chmod. You will have stricter control and actually KNOW
what rights you are handing out to the various users and groups on your
system when using the alpha character method.

For example;

chmod ug+rw some_text_file.txt

Will put User u and Group g read r and write w rights
onto the file. This will allow the user that has his or her username
listed as the owner of the file as well as any members of the group that
are listed on the file. For the World rights use o. To add such
rights use a + sign in between the ugo (User, Group, World) and the
rwx (Read, Write, Executable) and the - sign to take them away.

If you have a group called Accounting that needs access to a
directory then use the following command...

chown root:Accounting directory_name

Then change the rwx rights to allow the group Accounting to use
the directory and files within.

Then you can run whatever group ownership rights you want on
that directory and all Accounting group members will have access to the
files within.

These two commands, chmod and chown, are likely the most
important UNIX/Linux commands that you could ever possibly learn. 

-- 
Eric Halverson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doctors Care Health Services


Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800

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RE: [Samba] Connection of Linux/Unix clients to Samba PDC

[Robert Adkins II]

Brian,

A Samba PDC acts like a Windows NT 4.0 Domain Controller. The
issue you are experiencing is likely related to the configurations you
had to do in order to get the Linux systems to connect to the Win2K
Domain Controller. 

That is where I would start looking. Unfortunately, I haven't
had a chance to focus on adding Linux workstations to our network. Just
one machine that I use for some testing of software we would potentially
use in out network someday. With that system, I was using
LinNeighborhood and never ran into any issues with connecting to the
Linux PDC. (It is a fairly manual method of mounting shares though.)

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Brian Crittenden
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Connection of Linux/Unix clients to Samba PDC

We replaced our Win2k PDC with a Samba PDC and have all Windows clients
are
connecting.  But we are having difficulty logging on with the Linux and
Unix
servers to this domain.  Is there something that must be done
differently
for them to connect?

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RE: [Samba] Samba 2.2.8-1 as W2k Member server

[Robert Adkins II]

Andre,

It does that because Samba is using its own internal smbpasswd
file. While you may have been able to get Samba 2.2.8-1 connected to the
Windows 2000 Domain, it will not replicate the SAM data
(usernames/passwords).

Run this test; create a Linux user account, then create a Samba
User account of the same name. (The Linux User account is required to
create the Samba user account.) Once you have done that, attempt to
connect to the server using Windows Explorer or whatever. (Make sure
that you create a user account/password combo that exists in your
Windows 2000 AD.) If all goes well, that user account should connect
perfectly fine.

I believe that they are working on figuring out how to get Samba
to replicate the SAM data. However, that is still some time off, I
believe. 

At this time, I know that you can setup a Samba PDC and another
Samba server to act as a Samba Back-up Domain Controller, as we have
that configuration working fine in our office.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andre Dieball
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Samba 2.2.8-1 as W2k Member server

Hello

I have a problem with setting up Samba as a AD member server.

Environment:
Linux tux 2.2.20-idepci (Debian Woody)
samba   2.2.8-1.woody
samba-common2.2.8-1.woody
smbclient   2.2.8-1.woody
(samba from people.samba.org/~peloy/samba)

Smb.conf:
---cut---
[global]
printer driver file = /etc/samba/printers.def
encrypt passwords = true
character set = ISO8859-15
socket options = SO_KEEPALIVE IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY 
kernel oplocks = No
invalid users = root
password server = de-mail, plains
interfaces = xx.xx.xx.xx/255.255.255.0
security = domain
server string = PDF-Test
workgroup = xx_
log level = 3
local master = No   
client code page = 850
netbios name = tux
log file = /var/log/samba/%m
guest account = nobody
os level = 2

[shr]
   path = /shr
   browseable = yes
   writeable = yes
   guest ok = yes
   force user = nobody

[pdf]
comment = PDF Printer
path = /var/tmp
create mask = 0600
guest ok = yes
printable = Yes
;   browseable = No
print command = /usr/bin/printpdf.sh %s %U
lpq command =
lprm command =
printer driver = HP C LaserJet 4500-PS
printer driver location = \\%h\printer$

[printer$]
path = /etc/samba/printdrivers
guest ok = yes
read only = yes
printable = yes
---cut---

I have created a machine acount in active directory named tux (as the
netbios name in smb.conf) and made it pre W2k compatible.
Aftrewards, I stopped samba and used:

Smbpasswd -j xx_x -r de-mail -U administrator

With the active directory administrator domain and received a message,
that
the domain has been joined.

I see the node in network neighbourhood, but I can't access it. It
always
askes for a username/password combination.

Any help is really appriciated.

Rgds.
Andre



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RE: [Samba] Samba 2.2.8-1 as W2k Member server

[Robert Adkins II]

Andre,

Take a look at your old smb.conf file, if you still have it
available. I believe that you have a setting difference regarding
authentication that is causing your issue. 

We don't allow access to anyone that doesn't have an account on
the domain. So, our smb.conf is configured to disallow guest and
nobody accounts. Perhaps yours is configured in that fashion as well.

Good luck.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: Andre Dieball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:33 PM
To: 'Robert Adkins II'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Samba 2.2.8-1 as W2k Member server

Hello Robert

Thanks for your mail.

The thing is, that it worked in exect the same configuration before
(Samba
2.2.7a).

I don't want Samba do be part of any kind of domain controllers, I just
want
it to offer services (printer) to active directory users.

I'm not sure, but I think, that's why anybody, who does not have an
samba
account uses the user nobody.

I had this issue with 2.2.7a before, but can't remember how I solved it
:-(

Rgds.
Andre



 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Adkins II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:59 PM
 To: 'Andre Dieball'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Samba 2.2.8-1 as W2k Member server
 
 
 Andre,
 
   It does that because Samba is using its own internal
 smbpasswd file. While you may have been able to get Samba 
 2.2.8-1 connected to the Windows 2000 Domain, it will not 
 replicate the SAM data (usernames/passwords).
 
   Run this test; create a Linux user account, then create
 a Samba User account of the same name. (The Linux User 
 account is required to create the Samba user account.) Once 
 you have done that, attempt to connect to the server using 
 Windows Explorer or whatever. (Make sure that you create a 
 user account/password combo that exists in your Windows 2000 
 AD.) If all goes well, that user account should connect 
 perfectly fine.
 
   I believe that they are working on figuring out how to
 get Samba to replicate the SAM data. However, that is still 
 some time off, I believe. 
 
   At this time, I know that you can setup a Samba PDC and
 another Samba server to act as a Samba Back-up Domain 
 Controller, as we have that configuration working fine in our office.
 
 Regards,
 Robert Adkins II
 IT Manager/Buyer
 Impel Industries, Inc.
 586-254-5800
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Andre Dieball
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Samba] Samba 2.2.8-1 as W2k Member server
 
 Hello
 
 I have a problem with setting up Samba as a AD member server.
 
 Environment:
 Linux tux 2.2.20-idepci (Debian Woody)
 samba   2.2.8-1.woody
 samba-common2.2.8-1.woody
 smbclient   2.2.8-1.woody
 (samba from people.samba.org/~peloy/samba)
 
 Smb.conf:
 ---cut---
 [global]
 printer driver file = /etc/samba/printers.def
 encrypt passwords = true
 character set = ISO8859-15
 socket options = SO_KEEPALIVE IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY 
 kernel oplocks = No
 invalid users = root
 password server = de-mail, plains
 interfaces = xx.xx.xx.xx/255.255.255.0
 security = domain
 server string = PDF-Test
 workgroup = xx_
 log level = 3
 local master = No   
 client code page = 850
 netbios name = tux
 log file = /var/log/samba/%m
 guest account = nobody
 os level = 2
 
 [shr]
path = /shr
browseable = yes
writeable = yes
guest ok = yes
force user = nobody
 
 [pdf]
 comment = PDF Printer
 path = /var/tmp
 create mask = 0600
 guest ok = yes
 printable = Yes
 ;   browseable = No
 print command = /usr/bin/printpdf.sh %s %U
 lpq command =
 lprm command =
 printer driver = HP C LaserJet 4500-PS
 printer driver location = \\%h\printer$
 
 [printer$]
 path = /etc/samba/printdrivers
 guest ok = yes
 read only = yes
 printable = yes
 ---cut---
 
 I have created a machine acount in active directory named tux
 (as the netbios name in smb.conf) and made it pre W2k 
 compatible. Aftrewards, I stopped samba and used:
 
 Smbpasswd -j xx_x -r de-mail -U administrator
 
 With the active directory administrator domain and received a
 message, that the domain has been joined.
 
 I see the node in network neighbourhood, but I can't access
 it. It always askes for a username/password combination.
 
 Any help is really appriciated.
 
 Rgds.
   Andre
 
 
 
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RE: [Samba] Samba as a PDC

[Robert Adkins II]

You should submit your smb.conf file. There are likely a few
areas that need tweaking in it to work properly. Also, the WinXP
machines will need to have Machine Accounts created in Samba.

You also must have the Samba server, or another server,
configured to act as a WINS server for the Win9x machines. In the Win9X
network configuration window, the IP Address of the Samba or other WINS
server must be inserted into the correct location.

Reply to the list with your smb.conf file and someone might be
able to help you out.

Other then that, I would recommend picking up a copy of
O'Reilly's Using Samba. It is slightly dated in regards to
configuration, however it does have excellent supporting information
which will fill in many gaps regarding how a Windows Domain and the SMB
protocol functions. 

There is also some limited information available in Swat, the
web-based configuration tool, that should have been installed along with
Samba. (Automatically, not something that you needed to install.) You
can access that through Webmin, which should have been installed by
default on Mandrake 9.0. 

If you look at or configure your smb.conf file in Swat, be
prepared for some radical changes to your smb.conf file. Swat strips
out all of the nonsense (to the samba service) from the file. This
streamlines and greatly increases the speed at which Samba will run,
mostly because Samba will reread the smb.conf quite often while running.
(Which means if you make a change, add or remove a share, you needn't
restart Samba which could possibly drop some users from accessing
shares.)

If you are REALLY new to Samba and fairly new to Linux, I am
unable to recommend this next piece enough. You must learn UNIX groups
and file permissions. Without a fairly solid understanding of those two
pieces, you will have significant issues with your file shares. 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
C  K Rutland
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 1:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Samba as a PDC

HELP.  I am running samba 2.2.7 on mandrake 9.0.  I have setup samba and
configured my smb.conf file correctly as fair as i can tell but am still
having trouble.  When i run testparm everything appears fine.  I can
ping every machine on my network but can't get any of my four machines
to logon to the domain.  I have three machines with 98 and one with xp.
I have downloaded the xp registry patch yet on every machine it still
says it can't find the domain.  I have tried using swat and everything
else i can think of.  Can any body offer any suggestions???

Thanks Josh

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[Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

[Robert Adkins II]

Hello All,

I have been doing some research to find a method to increase the
performance of writes to the hard drives in my servers. I am running
Samba and all writes to the server hard drives are taking at least 3 to
10 times (It varies) the amount of time it took to write such files on
our older Windows NT 4.0 File Server. 

The following information is provided to keep this issue on
track...

It is not a NIC or network issue. Reads of files from those
drives take place almost instantly. I have been able to copy an entire
700MB CD-ROM ISO image off of the server in less then 3 minutes, yet
writing a 5 MB file to the server will take approximately the 3 minutes,
or more. I have also optimized the smb.conf file as best as it can be.
This resulted in a gain of approximately 15 seconds.

This happens regardless of how busy the server is in serving
files to other users as I have tested this while all PCs were in use on
the network and also when none were in use.

In some of my searching, I have read that ReiserFS has faster
write performance then Ext3FS. So, I blew away the share partition on
our test server, recreated that with ReiserFS and rebuilt the share. So
far, I have only seen a few seconds of speed increase. (The other odd
thing is that the Windows Explorer file copy progress bar is much more
consistent to the ReiserFS share then the ext3fs share.)

I have a few ideas about why there is a slowdown and a few ideas
of what could possibly increase performance. However, I am at a loss as
to how to implement those changes or how to verify that they are even
possible. (Except by asking this list.)

My Google searches have come up dry with actual methods (ie.
Commands to look at or actually use.) to implement some performance
enhancements. All they say are things like, change ext3fs's method of
writing the journal from the stock conservative method to the much
faster, yet slightly dangerous, method. There is just no mention of how
that is done. I have read through the man pages and there is nothing
that leaps out and says, This is the command that alters the ext3fs
journal method. 

From what I read, so far, about the two journaling methods it is
a VERY acceptable risk for the potential performance increase. (It is
even more acceptable if it can be setup only to affect the share
partition, which is also its own separate drive.)

There are a few other ideas that I have, but after thinking
those over, they would likely be far more of a hassle then they would be
worth.

Are there any suggestions for increasing HD Write performance,
while still using a journaling FS? At this time, I do not have the
resources and additional funds to rebuild the hard drives using XFS or
JFS. So, it has to be ReiserFS or ext3fs.

Thanks for any assistance!

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800



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RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

[Robert Adkins II]

Sorry... 

I sent this to the wrong list. It was meant for a more general
Linux list.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robert Adkins II
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

Hello All,

I have been doing some research to find a method to increase the
performance of writes to the hard drives in my servers. I am running
Samba and all writes to the server hard drives are taking at least 3 to
10 times (It varies) the amount of time it took to write such files on
our older Windows NT 4.0 File Server. 

The following information is provided to keep this issue on
track...

It is not a NIC or network issue. Reads of files from those
drives take place almost instantly. I have been able to copy an entire
700MB CD-ROM ISO image off of the server in less then 3 minutes, yet
writing a 5 MB file to the server will take approximately the 3 minutes,
or more. I have also optimized the smb.conf file as best as it can be.
This resulted in a gain of approximately 15 seconds.

This happens regardless of how busy the server is in serving
files to other users as I have tested this while all PCs were in use on
the network and also when none were in use.

In some of my searching, I have read that ReiserFS has faster
write performance then Ext3FS. So, I blew away the share partition on
our test server, recreated that with ReiserFS and rebuilt the share. So
far, I have only seen a few seconds of speed increase. (The other odd
thing is that the Windows Explorer file copy progress bar is much more
consistent to the ReiserFS share then the ext3fs share.)

I have a few ideas about why there is a slowdown and a few ideas
of what could possibly increase performance. However, I am at a loss as
to how to implement those changes or how to verify that they are even
possible. (Except by asking this list.)

My Google searches have come up dry with actual methods (ie.
Commands to look at or actually use.) to implement some performance
enhancements. All they say are things like, change ext3fs's method of
writing the journal from the stock conservative method to the much
faster, yet slightly dangerous, method. There is just no mention of how
that is done. I have read through the man pages and there is nothing
that leaps out and says, This is the command that alters the ext3fs
journal method. 

From what I read, so far, about the two journaling methods it is
a VERY acceptable risk for the potential performance increase. (It is
even more acceptable if it can be setup only to affect the share
partition, which is also its own separate drive.)

There are a few other ideas that I have, but after thinking
those over, they would likely be far more of a hassle then they would be
worth.

Are there any suggestions for increasing HD Write performance,
while still using a journaling FS? At this time, I do not have the
resources and additional funds to rebuild the hard drives using XFS or
JFS. So, it has to be ReiserFS or ext3fs.

Thanks for any assistance!

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800



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RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

[Robert Adkins II]

The speed is nearly identical, regardless of which server that I
attempt to write data to. Running ifconfig reveals the following
information...

UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:9588652 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:1 frame:3
  TX packets:10666832 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:1953448761 (1862.9 Mb)  TX bytes:1870489113 (1783.8 Mb)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe000

Having 3 errors out of 9588652 packets sent is extremely
acceptable in my book. The error rate is so far beneath 1% that it is
for all intent and purposes, irrelevant. 

The spare/test server hasn't had any recorded errors and suffers
from the same write performance issues.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: Rashkae [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:40 AM
To: Robert Adkins II
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

Finding out how to tune the EXT3 journaling method would be good.  That
information has eluded my searches as well...

However, before you fiddle with your file system, you should really
investigate what your problem really is.  Unfortunately, you assertian
that you do not have network problems because you can download a file
quickly is not at all true.  Many network problems can affect traffic
one
way moreso than the other.

There is no reason that writing a 10MB file to a Samba share should take
more a 10 seconds. (Mine goes in a bout 5 seconds, and my Samba server
hard drive writing speed is actually *very* slow)  If it's taking you
over
a minute to transfer 5 MB, something is very very wrong.

On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Robert Adkins II wrote:

Hello All,

I have been doing some research to find a method to increase the
performance of writes to the hard drives in my servers. I am running
Samba and all writes to the server hard drives are taking at least 3 to
10 times (It varies) the amount of time it took to write such files on
our older Windows NT 4.0 File Server.

The following information is provided to keep this issue on
track...

It is not a NIC or network issue. Reads of files from those
drives take place almost instantly. I have been able to copy an entire
700MB CD-ROM ISO image off of the server in less then 3 minutes, yet
writing a 5 MB file to the server will take approximately the 3 minutes,
or more. I have also optimized the smb.conf file as best as it can be.
This resulted in a gain of approximately 15 seconds.

This happens regardless of how busy the server is in serving
files to other users as I have tested this while all PCs were in use on
the network and also when none were in use.

In some of my searching, I have read that ReiserFS has faster
write performance then Ext3FS. So, I blew away the share partition on
our test server, recreated that with ReiserFS and rebuilt the share. So
far, I have only seen a few seconds of speed increase. (The other odd
thing is that the Windows Explorer file copy progress bar is much more
consistent to the ReiserFS share then the ext3fs share.)

I have a few ideas about why there is a slowdown and a few ideas
of what could possibly increase performance. However, I am at a loss as
to how to implement those changes or how to verify that they are even
possible. (Except by asking this list.)

My Google searches have come up dry with actual methods (ie.
Commands to look at or actually use.) to implement some performance
enhancements. All they say are things like, change ext3fs's method of
writing the journal from the stock conservative method to the much
faster, yet slightly dangerous, method. There is just no mention of how
that is done. I have read through the man pages and there is nothing
that leaps out and says, This is the command that alters the ext3fs
journal method.

From what I read, so far, about the two journaling methods it is
a VERY acceptable risk for the potential performance increase. (It is
even more acceptable if it can be setup only to affect the share
partition, which is also its own separate drive.)

There are a few other ideas that I have, but after thinking
those over, they would likely be far more of a hassle then they would be
worth.

Are there any suggestions for increasing HD Write performance,
while still using a journaling FS? At this time, I do not have the
resources and additional funds to rebuild the hard drives using XFS or
JFS. So, it has to be ReiserFS or ext3fs.

Thanks for any assistance!

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800



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RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

[Robert Adkins II]

Well, 

This suggestion makes perfect sense. I am looking into this, I
have found some interesting information regarding this on Google and
hope to have this figured out soon. 

Thanks for the assistance.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: David Brodbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:09 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Rashkae; Robert Adkins II
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing



 -Original Message-
 From: Larry McElderry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: Rashkae; Robert Adkins II
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing
 
 
 I tend to agree.  Perhaps a duplex mismatch between 
 hub/switch and NIC?  

Just to add: A duplex mismatch can cause late collisions that will *not*
always be reported as errors in the Ethernet stats.  A common symptom is
that pings or small transfers go well, but large ones crawl or grind to
a
halt.


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RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

[Robert Adkins II]

Here are the results of mii-tool from both servers...

Spare Server:

  eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
  product info: vendor 00:10:18, model 23 rev 7
  basic mode:   autonegotiation enabled
  basic status: autonegotiation complete, link ok
  capabilities: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD
  advertising:  100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD
flow-control
  link partner: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD

Main Server

  eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
  product info: vendor 00:10:5a, model 0 rev 0
  basic mode:   autonegotiation enabled
  basic status: autonegotiation complete, link ok
  capabilities: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD
  advertising:  100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD
flow-control
  link partner: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD

If I am reading this correctly, then it appears that they are
setup to run at their very best. 

Using mii-tool, I have tested the Spare server by forcing
several different speed settings from 100baseTX-FD/HD to 10baseT-FD and
HD. I am still experiencing incredible slow downs when copying data to
the server and much faster copies from the server.

When moving down to the 10baseT speeds the copies to the server
slow down a little more, but not by much. They slow down about the same
percentage as the copies from the server do when dropping down to
10baseT speeds. (Which is to say it isn't extremely noticeable.) 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: David Brodbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:18 AM
To: 'Robert Adkins II'
Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

If you're running Linux, mii-tool can be helpful.  I've mostly run into
this problem with older switches that don't do auto-negotiation
properly.  Check what the switch is expecting and make sure the ethernet
card's settings agree.  Sometimes it's best, at least for testing, to
force both ends manually into a particular duplex setting instead of
relying on auto-negotiation.  (If you're using a hub, you should be in
half-duplex mode, period.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Adkins II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:26 AM
 To: 'David Brodbeck'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Rashkae'
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing
 
 
 Well,
 
   This suggestion makes perfect sense. I am looking into this, I
have 
 found some interesting information regarding this on Google and hope 
 to have this figured out soon.
 
   Thanks for the assistance.
 
 Regards,
 Robert Adkins II
 IT Manager/Buyer
 Impel Industries, Inc.
 586-254-5800
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Brodbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:09 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Rashkae; Robert Adkins II
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Larry McElderry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:45 AM
  To: Rashkae; Robert Adkins II
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing
  
  
  I tend to agree.  Perhaps a duplex mismatch between
  hub/switch and NIC?  
 
 Just to add: A duplex mismatch can cause late collisions that
 will *not*
 always be reported as errors in the Ethernet stats.  A common 
 symptom is
 that pings or small transfers go well, but large ones crawl 
 or grind to
 a
 halt.
 


-Original Message-
From: Gareth Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rashkae; Robert Adkins II
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

- Original Message -
From: Larry McElderry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rashkae [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins II
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Samba] Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing


 I tend to agree.  Perhaps a duplex mismatch between hub/switch and
NIC?

 How long does it take to copy a 5MB file from one local drive to the
second local drive (not involving the network)?


I also concur.

I just tested a 16mb file copying to a Winbind authenticated SAMBA share
using Ext3fs and it took around 3-4 seconds.

Copying between 2 SAMBA shares on the same machine took about 12
seconds.

Copying from the share back to the Win2k machine took 4 seconds.

Gareth Davies
Willowbrook I.T.
Ext. 235



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[Samba] To all who helped with Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

[Robert Adkins II]

First off, thanks! :)

It appears that the issue could be a bad switch. At this time, I
have turned down the server's NIC to run at 10baseT-FD and the
performance has seriously increased. It now takes roughly 25 to 35
seconds to copy and 8mb file to the server, but it now takes a little
longer to copy a file from the server.

So, we are now in the market for some far superior network
switches.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800

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RE: [Samba] Substitution of NT

[Robert Adkins II]

Diogo,

The administration is not necessarily a big pain in the rear,
the initial configuration and figuring out how all the pieces go
together is the pain in the rear. Once it is up and running, it is very
solid and performs quite well.

There are a few minor things that set it apart from an actual
Windows DC, but that is to be expected since it isn't a Windows PD.
However, I understand that many of those niggling issues will be worked
out in the next major release of Samba. 

In the meantime, you can get used to the differences and may
find that they are nowhere near being a pain in the ass. 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Diogo Saad
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Substitution of NT

Hi,

I wanna Samba to work as a PDC
Many people told me that the administration is a pain in the ass
If I use LDAP as a user repository should I improve the
administration???
I could not find good articles / howtos / tutorials about Samba as a
PDC. can you provide me some good links??

Sorry about my english!! ( I'm from Brasil)


Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity!!

Thanks in advance
Diogo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

[Robert Adkins II]

Hello Everyone,

I have a few users that are complaining about the slowness of
copying files to and saving files directly to the Samba server. From my
own recollections, the speed is rather identical to the speed we
experienced on our old Windows NT 4.0 fileserver.

One thing that could be the impetus of this issue is that Samba
is serving up files, for opening and copying from the server to a local
workstation, nearly instantly (in most cases).

I have looked at some Samba performance increase settings and
haven't had much luck with those, on my test server. I have played with
the SO_RCVBUF and SO_SNDBUF with limited success. I have also played
with the MTU settings and that did nothing but decrease client to server
write performance.

The server is running the fastest IDE hard drives that I could
purchase at the time. (7200 rpm) The server itself is Red Hat 7.2
running with Ext3FS. Without spending money, are there any other methods
through which I can dramatically increase the network write performance?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800



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RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

[Robert Adkins II]

Noel,

I had already checked the NIC and found VERY acceptable errors.
In over 2GBs of data transferred since my last scheduled maintenance
reboot, there has only been 3 errors and 1 overrun. Which to me, is
negligible as far as errors go.

I have a sinking suspicion, that I am none to happy about, that
I will need to compile a kernel with ReiserFS support, move ALL the data
off of the Samba share, rebuild that partition with ReiserFS, recreate
all the file permissions and then copy all of the data back over.

This will of course take a few weeks, as I will need to run
plenty of tests on the spare server and I only have a few hours
available each week to work up such changes.

Well, so much for the quick and simple fix.  

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: Noel Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: 'Robert Adkins II'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

Just a thought, but I would check for errors on your NIC with ifconfig.
Read times might still be quite good whilst write times are shot if
there
are network errors I have found.

Noel


Without spending money, are there any other methods
through which I can dramatically increase the network write performance?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
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RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

[Robert Adkins II]

Thanks for the suggestion Leroy, I probably should have added
that when I built this server, I built it in overkill mode. It has
much more RAM then is needed for our current load.

The server has over 800 Megs of physical RAM dedicated to buffer
and cache. 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Leroy van Logchem
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

   This will of course take a few weeks, as I will need to run
 plenty of tests on the spare server and I only have a few hours
 available each week to work up such changes.

   Well, so much for the quick and simple fix.

To optimize for writing to disk, see the docs on memory management.
I had some gain delaying the writes, but do add some RAM.

Some reading material:

http://en.tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/
chap29sec287.html
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5840

Goodluck!

Regards,
Leroy

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RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

[Robert Adkins II]

Noel,

I would take Journaling over performance any day of the week.
You can always find ways to increase performance, given enough time. 

However, even with battery back-ups if the power supply dies, I
want to be back up and running after replacing the power supply almost
immediately, not after having to hammer away at fixing broken inodes.
(Which can take quite a while longer...)

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
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586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: Noel Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:49 AM
To: 'Robert Adkins II'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

Or you could just switch the filesystems to ext2?

I believe this is just a case of changing your mount options in fstab
and I
think this is what John was alluding to earlier - ext3 adds a lot of
baggage
to the ext2 structure which slows it down quite considerably.  Reiser
and
XFS were designed from the bottom up so make the journalling less of a
performance issue.

I guess it depends if you want to lose the journalling to gain
performance?

HTH
Cheers,
Noel

-Original Message-
From: Robert Adkins II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 March 2003 15:15
To: Noel Kelly; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions


Noel,

I had already checked the NIC and found VERY acceptable errors.
In over 2GBs of data transferred since my last scheduled maintenance
reboot, there has only been 3 errors and 1 overrun. Which to me, is
negligible as far as errors go.

I have a sinking suspicion, that I am none to happy about, that
I will need to compile a kernel with ReiserFS support, move ALL the data
off of the Samba share, rebuild that partition with ReiserFS, recreate
all the file permissions and then copy all of the data back over.

This will of course take a few weeks, as I will need to run
plenty of tests on the spare server and I only have a few hours
available each week to work up such changes.

Well, so much for the quick and simple fix.  

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: Noel Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: 'Robert Adkins II'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Performance Increase Suggestions

Just a thought, but I would check for errors on your NIC with ifconfig.
Read times might still be quite good whilst write times are shot if
there
are network errors I have found.

Noel


Without spending money, are there any other methods
through which I can dramatically increase the network write performance?

Regards,
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586-254-5800



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[Samba] PDF Printer issue

[Robert Adkins II]

Hello Everyone,

I have a slight issue with configuring a PDF printer on my Samba
servers. I have input the following into my smb.conf file and it does
create the printer as well as work to create PDF files, except that it
only functions when printing to that printer via Excel 2002. If I
attempt it with anything else, even the Windows Test print, it fails.

Now, in the Windows Printers folder, if I select the PDF printer
the status box states that the printer is inactive and not ready.
However, if I browse to the printer through the Windows Explorer Network
Neighborhood, the printer shows up as active and ready.

I am unsure quite what the problem is, which means it is likely
something very easy. There is one thing to note, I have not a single
Linux Printing Subsystem running on the machine as this server is not
being used for regular printing of any sort. 

Here is my smb.conf section:


[purchpdf]
comment = PDF Generator for Purchasing
path = /var/spool/samba
valid users = *UserNames Removed*
write list = *UserNames Removed*
printable = yes
print command = gs -dNOPAUSE -dbatch -q -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=/share/purchasing/pdf/%J.pdf %J 1/dev/null 21; rm -f %J

Thanks for any assistance that can be rendered.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
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RE: [Samba] NT_STATUS question

[Robert Adkins II]

Anyone,

Is there a method to eliminate Windows attempting to open up a
Desktop.ini file in every directory, save a few *important* ones, like
C:\windows\, C:\Program Files and others? I am of the opinion that might
help increase Windows performance or at least be easier on Samba
Logfiles...

I will look into it myself, but if someone has the answer
handy...

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andrew Bartlett
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:01 PM
To: Justin Anderson
Cc: samba list
Subject: Re: [Samba] NT_STATUS question

On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 07:58, Justin Anderson wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 
 Got a couple of errors in the logs wondering what they mean???
 
 Google does not come up with too much on these NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE,
 NT_STATUS_SHARING_VIOLATION, NT_STATUS_INVALID_LEVEL and
 NT_STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND.
 
 
 Four clips illustrating the above are below...
 
 
 I have am wondering how I sort this out. I am particularly worried
about
 the NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE.

Errors are a standard part of SMB - and windows will often open
non-existent files.  (Like desktop.ini in *every* directory).

Andrew Bartlett

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RE: [Samba] NT_STATUS question

[Robert Adkins II]

Andrew,

I am definitely not running Samba with a log level that high.
There are times when I see a number of Samba error messages at the
console. Nobody took the time to answer why they show up there and I was
unable to locate any information as to why they show up on the console.
I imagine that many of those will cease if there was a method to keep
Windows from causing such errors to occur.

It hasn't really caused me any major issues at this time, as the
network I am running is still quite small. (less then 20 users) However,
I could see that being a potential issue in the future, if Samba is
attempting to service those requests as the number of users increase
there will be an increase in the number of times that Samba needs to
say, No, there isn't such a file to the Windows clients.

Your suggestion to create a VFS module to handle that issue
sounds interesting. I am completely lost as to where to begin looking,
besides googling for it, do you have a link or two that you would
recommend to introduce someone to VFS modules? 

Thanks.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:29 PM
To: Robert Adkins II
Cc: 'Andrew Bartlett'; 'Justin Anderson'; 'samba list'
Subject: RE: [Samba] NT_STATUS question

On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 09:34, Robert Adkins II wrote:
 Anyone,
 
   Is there a method to eliminate Windows attempting to open up a
 Desktop.ini file in every directory, save a few *important* ones, like
 C:\windows\, C:\Program Files and others? I am of the opinion that
might
 help increase Windows performance or at least be easier on Samba
 Logfiles...

If you run Samba with the log level that high, then your performance is
already shot.  If it is causing you particular pain (ie, more than a
failed lookup - like it is brining offline-storage online or other such
mischief - then look into writing a VFS module to make out that call).

Andrew Bartlett

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RE: [Samba] SWAT

[Robert Adkins II]

Clementina,

I had issues with running Swat myself. I ended up running webmin
(www.webmin.com) on the server. This system gives you a great and fairly
easy to use method of configuring Samba, even though it does not support
all Samba features.

The Samba component to Webmin also contains a fully-running Swat
installation. 

If you are introducing OpenSource software, I would definitely
include Webmin as one of the tools. That software is quite powerful and
capable of helping with the administration of many UNIX and related
Operating Systems.


Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
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586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
clementina di meglio
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] SWAT

Dear Andrew Tridgell,
Excuse me for my English: it's terrible!
I am a italian tetcher of Computer Science and I want to introduce the 
Open Source Software in my school. At this moment I search for to 
configure a  School's LAN with Samba, bad i am *not successful to run
SWAT*.
Can you help me?
I work with Linux Redhat 8.0 and Samba 2.2.5.
Tank's  for your responce.
Clementina Di Meglio

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RE: [Samba] Thoughts for you geniuses

[Robert Adkins II]

Joel,

As far as I know, Samba doesn't quite work in the fashion that
you are expecting. However, there are a few things that Samba and
supporting applications will do for you.

To have something like a Network Neighborhood, I can only
recommend an application called LinNeighborhood. You should be able to
locate the application by searching either www.freshmeat.net or
www.sourceforge.com. It is a very usable and easy to figure out
application. There are a few things that you will need to do, in order
for it to be accessible to all users on the Linux workstation. Which you
will have to look through the FAQs for, it has been to long since I have
had to make that accessible to all users on a Linux system. I do know
that it has to do with setting the 'suid' bit on one or more files
relating to the application.

As for your site being able to see the Linux machine in Network
Neighborhood, but being unable to access it from Windows systems. We
would need to see how you have your smb.conf file configured to assist
you in finding out what the deal is. If that is not possible, I am
certain that a working file could be forwarded your way to create a
testing environment to confirm the changes you may need to make. 

There is also one other component that might be missing, as you
hadn't stated what you have completed thus far.

If you haven't created Samba user accounts, which are separate
yet require existing Linux system accounts, there is no real method to
access the Linux system from a Windows system.

The final piece you mention is, from what I know, currently
impossible under Linux. While Windows 2000 does use a MS modified
Kerberos system, I understand that it is quite different then the true
Kerberos standard. To have network-wide authentication, you could look
at developing an LDAP system, which the MS systems should be able to use
for authentication.

Unfortunately, the last part you request an answer on is
something that I haven't had to look at myself. So, the information that
I do have on that is rather limited. 

I hope that the information I have provided you is adequate to
move forward with the tasks you have. Good luck.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Esler, Joel Contractor
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Thoughts for you geniuses

Situation -- Samba 2.2.5, RedHat Linux 8.0
Domain -- W2K AD

After boot, I can go into Network Neighborhood, and I can see the name
of
the computer.  When I double click on it it's unaccessible.  Also, I
can't
see the network from the Linux box, I can ping it all, but I can't see
it. 

Where is the network neighborhood in Linux?  Also,  the big
question...

I need, (upon boot) in runlevel 5, that the Linux box will authenticate
with
the W2K Domain Controller, just like any Windows Client on the network.


Joel
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RE: [Samba] Re: Groups with Samba domain controler or domain member

[Robert Adkins II]

Besides how to overcome the issue with permissions using group
names with spaces, what other kind of information do you need to know
about groups? 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chris de Vidal
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Re: Groups with Samba domain controler or domain member

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anybody know more about groups? I am
 considering switching from NT 
 to Samba domain and have made some test.
 Unfortunately I need to make 
 two additional groups, except Domain Admin (one of
 them is Domain 
 Users). Is it possible to make that with the stable
 version of Samba? 
 And another, but not so important (for now)
 question. Currently I have a 
 Samba server, providing files and printers as a part
 of NT domain. It 
 has winbind running, and I can list all NT rous and
 users in the samba 
 box. However, manipulating group ownership on files
 works only with 
 groups that don't have spaces in their names. Does
 anybody know how to 
 overcome this?

chgrp 'Domain Admins' some_file.txt

Good luck,
/dev/idal

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RE: OT: suggestion! (was Re: [Samba] !!ATTENTION NEWBIES!!)

[Robert Adkins II]

Chris,

I have read a few more of your responses. It appears that you
believe wholeheartedly that your more advanced questions are going
unanswered simply because of the volume of lower skilled questions. 

Well, how do you know that there are enough people on the
mailing list that have experienced the more advanced issues you are
experiencing? Then, out of those people, how many of those do you
believe will take their time to answer your questions? It is likely that
the number is quite low.

While I don't consider myself an expert with Samba, I can answer
a few advanced questions and a glut of basic questions. When I was in
the midst of configuring the domain controllers we are using, I read and
answered dozens upon dozens of questions, newbie and otherwise. However,
since I now have my issues resolved, I answer far fewer questions then I
did previously. 

I believe that is very common amongst users that move beyond the
basics of Samba and most other services. Once they have the majority of
their issues resolved, they move one. So, it is likely that if all the
Newbs started researching from the get go and rarely ever posted to
the Samba list with their basic questions, you would still find your
more advanced questions go unanswered.

That's just the way things go.

I would like to apologize for the feather ruffling that I have
done regarding this issue. I didn't have all the information behind your
issue until I read a few of your posts after the flames I started
fanning. I wish you the best with finding the answers to your more
advanced questions. I know that many of mine go unanswered and that is
just the way it goes. 

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chris de Vidal
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:16 AM
To: Kurt Weiss
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: suggestion! (was Re: [Samba] !!ATTENTION NEWBIES!!)

--- Kurt Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wow / i did newer see such a response to a theme as
 in this case! :-O

Yeah, it actually had the opposite effect of what I
was begging people to do :-P

 here's a suggestion:
 i did send (in a view cases) a short message to this
 'NEWBEES' with 
 important internet links, such as: (e.g.)
 
 http://www.samba.org/samba/ml-etiquette.html
 http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/
 http://at.samba.org/samba/docs/

As did I.  The message I wanted to get across was,
Help yourself, this is why...  This is how I help
myself; here are ALL of the resources I've used!  It
just was misunderstood, I believe.  I thought I was
doing a service, but as I read it again, it looked
like an angry slam, not what I hoped.

Why can't we all get video email so inflections can be
easier seen?  (-:

I actually spend more time with my email client
helping newbies with greatly detailed letters than any
other thing.  A slam wasn't intended, and I'm sorry I
was misunderstood.

/dev/idal

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RE: [Samba] !!ATTENTION NEWBIES!!

[Robert Adkins II]

 start sarcasm 

HI,

My name is ANGRY MAILING LIST GUY. I am here to tell you that I
don't appreciate seeing questions that are easily found within the basic
documentation for the somewhat to extremely complex service that you
wish to install on your server. 

I find it terribly taxing to have to deal with regular questions
from what I consider newbs because my level of skill is so much higher
then the rest of you. It doesn't matter that most of those questions
come from people that speak English as a second or even third language,
which means they might have some difficulty in understanding what I
consider standard formatted sentences and manual pages.

Furthermore, just because a great deal of the available online
documentation is out of date, there is no reason why you plebeians
shouldn't be able to infer how some the sections are configured in newer
versions, even if those sections RADICALLY change how they are
configured. 

I have had a bad day, so I am going to make sure that the rest
of you all pay for me being in a bad mood.

 end sarcasm 

Personally, that is how I read the original poster's mailing. I
have been reading this mailing list myself for a few months. While I can
agree that there are many times when similar questions are posted, I
have to vehemently disagree that they are useless questions. 

There has been more then one time when I have assisted someone,
in a far off land, that may have had some serious issues in
understanding the way that the manuals were written. Is it their fault
that the structure of their native language is different then that of
mine? It is no more their fault then it is my own fault for speaking
differing languages. 

Also, is it their fault that some, if not a great deal of the
available online documentation could be out of date? For instance, I
recently asked about how to make a Samba BDC from a Samba PDC. Using the
online documentation that came with SWAT, I NEVER would have been able
to get it to work. The reason was simple, that function had changed file
formats and the method of getting the SID had changed as well.

If newbs tend to ask the same questions over and over and you
don't like to see what they wrote, delete it. You don't have to respond
and it's not that big of a deal to take a second to read something that
you have no intention of responding positively to.

You can also do what I do. Nicely answer the question and then
point out a few pieces of material that could assist that newb in
expanding their knowledge to a level closer to those of us who were once
newbs ourselves. You may make more friends, gain respect and also flex
the muscles within your own mind going over the little things that you
might not have looked at in a little while.


Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
586-254-5800


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chris de Vidal
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] !!ATTENTION NEWBIES!!

I've been reading this list for a few weeks now and
I've given advice on questions that look challenging
but I've deleted MANY questions like these:

How do I (easy question found in the documents)?

Though I don't count myself an expert, I've known
enough experts to see that they _HATE_ it when you
don't invest some time before asking a question.  I
too have been guilty of it, but I understand when I'm
shot down or ignored.

READ the manpages (man smb.conf, smbclient, etc.),
/usr/share/doc/samba*, SEARCH the web (Google is your
friend), SEARCH this mailing list
(marc.theaimsgroup.com), READ the Samba website (I
spend alot of time in the Documentation page), SEARCH
your distro's website (e.g. RedHat.com has a GREAT
docs section with Samba stuff in it), or READ one of
the many fine books.  I learned a TON from Teach
Yourself Samba in 24 Hours but a possibly better
book, Using Samba 2 from O'Reilly is out this month.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do your homework before asking,
else your question will get ignored and you'll burn
out the experts, whose time is better spent improving
Samba than answering simple questions.

/dev/idal

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RE: [Samba] Not able to login to Samba P

[Robert Adkins]

I believe that your issue is related to UNIX permissions. The location   
of your profiles directory must be set to allow all users R/W to it.   
Create a new group in your group file and add every user to it. Then   
change the ownership of the profiles directory. Also make sure that all   
of your users have R/W permissions on that directory.

Regards,
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IT Manager/Buyer
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 -Original Message-
From: Manjunath H N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Not able to login to Samba PDC.

   

Hello All,

I am getting Windows cannot create profile directory, when I try to log   
on
to the Samba PDC, on Win2K m/c

Also I am not getting any log messages, this is the only log I got, the
second log I got a long time back  the log file is not getting appended
after further logins

[2003/02/03 17:06:24, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(384)
  administrator logged in as admin user (root privileges)
[2003/02/03 17:13:29, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436)
  read_data: read failure for 4. Error = Connection reset by peer

But earlier for the same problem I was getting these logs

[2003/02/01 13:53:08, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252)
  iwave-123 (192.168.2.157) couldn't find service profiles

Please help me I tried all the docs  googled around quite a bit but   
still I
cannot solve the problem

Please help me.

Regards
Manjunath




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RE: [Samba] RAV for Samba (Linux i386)

[Robert Adkins]

Ryan,

This should be looked as one of those security or convenience issues.

While it is a little inconvenient and sometimes quite costly to have AV   
software installed and configured for automatic updates across an entire   
network. It is one of the safest and most secure things you can do.

I am not discounting having AV software installed on your server, as   
that is something that should also be done, as that will definitely   
increase the security and integrity of your network.

With some of the current self-installing spyware software that takes   
advantage of flaws(features) in Microsoft Internet Explorer and the   
Microsoft OS platform having AV on local workstations is incredibly   
important. With the supporting evidence that such spyware software can be   
installed with little to no user interaction, the leap is very easy to   
make that malicious code writers could include a payload to infect   
web-sites along with their next slammer/NIMDA-type virus.

With that in mind, these users could unwittingly infect the internal   
network one computer at a time, through E-mail and any direct shares that   
might be created out of convenience.

This could inevitably lead to an insecure network with the tendrils of   
some malicious cracker now reading all company data.

Personally, I find AV an extremely useful and very important tool that   
must be installed upon any Microsoft based platform. If there is no   
reason to utilize a MS based platform on a computer system within your   
network, then don't use one.

As an example, I will provide some base info about what we do. We are a   
small stamping plant. There are a few systems, CAD/CAM and CMM and   
Accounting systems that require Windows in order to function, as there is   
no other OS supported by the makers of the software we use.

However, virtually all of our other PC's just use MS Office to work   
within our VERY manual job management system. So, I have been given the   
green light to implement all new workstations on Red Hat Linux using one   
of the free office packages that will easily allow the user to complete   
the basic tasks he/she will be required to do.

In the immediate future, I am having a consulting firm build a   
web-based groupware system that will fit in nicely with our QS9000   
program giving us the ability to perform virtually all of our   
administrative tasks from any and all OS platforms that supports web   
browsing. One that is in place, I will have the go ahead to start   
eliminating the purchase of any new MS Windows based computer systems,   
thus mitigating our risks from the platform that has the most virii   
written for it.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Ryan Beisner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] RAV for Samba (Linux i386)

   

Just wondering if anyone has thoughts (good or bad) about this product
(RAV AntiVirus for Samba (Linux i386))...or any other?

I have a client that wants to have A/V *on* their samba server, rather
than just scanning the shares from a WS.

Any comments regarding ANTIVIRUS PROTECTION and SAMBA are gratefully
welcome!

TIA

 -Ryan Beisner

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RE: [Samba] Samba as PDC for WinXP, Win9

[Robert Adkins]

Simon,

What version of Windows XP are you using? If your client has purchased   
computers from Best Buy or a similar electronics mega-store they likely   
received WinXP Home Edition. (Which is what it sounds like based upon the   
use of Win9x machines you mentioned.)

If that is the case, then you will be unable to get the WinXP machines   
to see the Samba Server (or a Windows Server for that matter) as anything   
other then a workgroup connected server. WinXP Home Edition doesn't have   
the ability to connect to a Domain, it was never included in the OS   
Design. This could become an issue for you, if your client isn't to up on   
some of the technical aspects of things. (Because they might come away   
thinking that this Samba thing isn't capable of being a DC, even though   
it is WinXP HE that is the problem.)

If they are running Windows XP Professional, then the issue might be   
related to the release of Samba you are using. Update to the latest   
stable release of Samba. We have not a single Windows XP machine   
connected to our Domain. However, I have read of some issues with   
connecting Windows XP machines to a Samba Domain. Most everyone is   
recommended to update to the latest version of Samba and that is usually   
the end of their responses regarding that issue.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Simon A. F. Lund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Samba as PDC for WinXP, Win98 and Win95

   

Hello!

Ive just got the lovely job of converting and old Windows NT 4
fileserver to FreeBSD, ive set up samba before as a simple fileshare but
this place requires roaming profile login from WinXP, Win98 and Win95
clients.
My question is whether or not any of you people have any experience with
this and might be able to give some tips on the way? I've tried fidling
with it but i cant get my WinXP clients to logon to the domain :(

I need all the help i can get :)

regards
Simon

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RE: [Samba] Windows accounts with samba

[Robert Adkins]

Yes, there is a line in the smb.conf called 'domain admin group ='

Just put the UNIX group name that you wish to have admin rights on   
Windows to there. Then open up your group file and add whomever needs   
those rights on the system. I have found that needs to be done the first   
time that a user account is setup on a Windows workstation when Office   
needs to install a few files to the registry. After that, you can log the   
workstation off and make them a regular user once again.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Rudolf Weeber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Windows accounts with samba pdc

   

Hi!

I run samba 2.2 as pdc and have the following problem:
When I log onto win2k with an account form the samba-pdc, the Windows
Account that is created is restricted, i.e. doesn't have the privileges   
to
change the registry etc. I can change this by adding each user on each
workstation manually.
My question is: Is it possible to change this for the entire domain - or   
at
least for one workstation?

Thanks in advance!
Rudolf


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RE: [Samba] Samba as PDC for WinXP, Win9

[Robert Adkins]

Localization of the OS should have no bearing on this issue. The only   
thing localization could/should affect is which government agency   
receives your personal documents during the near continuous contact that   
ALL WinXP based machines makes to the 'net. (I need more coffee that was   
a bit more sarcastic then usual, sorry.)

The issue is likely related to the release of Windows XP that is in use.   
All Windows XP's are not created equal.

For ANY Domain use, VPN tunneling, Dual Processor, you MUST be using   
Windows XP Professional. There is no other way around it, without   
possibly breaking EULA's, copy right law and possibly other laws. (Which   
might involve borrowing DLL's and other things from Windows XP Pro and   
importing those into Windows XP Home Edition.) Windows XP Pro also   
supports encrypted file systems, which is not available on XP Home.

Windows XP Home Edition is a toy that is meant purely for home use. It   
doesn|t support Domain Authentication, it will also never support dual   
processor systems. It does have some nice features and is based off of   
the Windows NT kernel, but it has a Home Version of the networking   
component and other important subsystems.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Jerome Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba as PDC for WinXP, Win98 and Win95

   

Simon A. F. Lund wrote:
 Hello!

 Ive just got the lovely job of converting and old Windows NT 4
 fileserver to FreeBSD, ive set up samba before as a simple fileshare   
but
 this place requires roaming profile login from WinXP, Win98 and Win95
 clients.
 My question is whether or not any of you people have any experience   
with
 this and might be able to give some tips on the way? I've tried fidling   

 with it but i cant get my WinXP clients to logon to the domain :(
I've got exactly the same problem, except I don't need roaming profiles.
I modifier the registry keys in XP workstations, but it still won't work.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the localisation of the XP
version? I'm using a French one.


 I need all the help i can get :)

 regards
 Simon



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RE: [Samba] win98 samba file server

[Robert Adkins]

Payam,

How is Samba configured? (If you could cut and paste or attach your   
smb.conf file in a reply, we can help you out much better.)

Is Samba setup to act as a Domain Controller or a simple workgroup   
configuration?

Have you run any updates on the Windows 98 machines?

Are the windows 98 machines in the same workgroup as the workgroup you   
set in your smb.conf file?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: payam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] win98  samba file server

   

Hello everybody,
it's a few minutes that i've subscribed in your mailing list.
nice to meat all of you.

I have samba on redhat 8 as a file server for a couple of win98 
winXP's.It work's for my XP OS's but I don't know how to join the   
win98 's in.

please help me
thanks
payam.


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RE: [Samba] win98 samba file server

[Robert Adkins]

Payam,

You should definitely pick up a copy of O'Reilly's Using Samba book.   
The book is immeasurably useful, even though it is slightly out of date,   
due to its explanation of how the SMB protocol works and the section   
regarding setting up a Samba PDC for the various MS Operating Systems.

What I believe to be your issue right now, is that you need to have an   
LMHOSTS file setup and also have your Samba server acting as a WINS   
server. Once you have that configured, it is a simple matter of pointing   
each Windows 98 based machine to the Samba server as the WINS server.   
At that point, you should be able to join the domain.

There is a good deal of information that you need to write into the   
LMHOSTS file for Windows 98 machines to see and understand what your   
Domain Controller is.

One thing you need to do is add the line 'wins server = ip address of   
your server' into your smb.conf file.

Once that is done, you need to create an LMHOSTS file. This file needs   
to have a small number of lines detailing the IP Address of your server   
then resource identifiers, like server/domain name along with a resource   
type...

For example;

192.168.254.22  super#1b
192.168.254.22  batman#1d
192.168.254.22  batman#20
192.168.254.22  batman#1c

Line one states that the machine at IP Address 192.168.254.22 is the   
Domain Controller for the 'super' domain. The line with '1d' in it states   
that the server is a Master Browser. The next line with '20' in it makes   
the server broadcast it is a fileserver. The '1c' designates the server   
as a logon server.

Once you have all that in place, those Windows 98 machines should be   
fine with connecting to your domain. Note: The above resource names are   
NetBIOS names. So, the Windows machines will require the NetBIOS protocol   
be installed on them as well.

Hopefully that will take care of your issue.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: payam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:06 PM
To: Robert Adkins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] win98  samba file server

   

   

thanks Robert

 -I attached my smb.conf for you
 -I have not installed any updates on the win98's
 -my samba server has a domain name as werc.sharif.edu

thanks alot,thanks alot thanks alot.
payam

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RE: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID fil

[Robert Adkins]

Greg,

Thanks for the information. That will really help me out with this   
project.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Greg J. Zartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:36 PM
To: Robert Adkins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID fil

   

Robert,

Have a look at the following, section 7.5

http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/cvs_current/docs/htmldocs/samba-bdc.html

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541-683-8383   541-683-8144
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RE: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID fil

[Robert Adkins]

I may have spoken to soon...

I found a section that states to run the following on the BDC...

'net rpc getsid'

I ran that command and nothing happened. I searched the system for a   
'net' command and was unable to locate anything as well. I checked a few   
other things, seeing if it might be a part of smbclient or smbd, but I   
haven't found anything declaring such an option.

Is this a separate program that is related to rpc or is it something   
that should have been installed alongside Samba?

Thanks for the assistance!  

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Robert Adkins
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Greg J. Zartman; Robert Adkins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID fil

   

Greg,

Thanks for the information. That will really help me out with this
project.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Greg J. Zartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:36 PM
To: Robert Adkins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID fil

 


Robert,

Have a look at the following, section 7.5

http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/cvs_current/docs/htmldocs/samba-bdc.html

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Vice-President

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1243 West 7th Avenue
Eugene, Oregon 97402
541-683-8383   541-683-8144
www.leiinc.com


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[Samba] Thanks for all the assistance!!!

[Robert Adkins]

Hello All!

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that has assisted me with   
answers to a few questions that I have had over the past few days. I now   
have both a Samba PDC and a Samba BDC working perfectly together. (Except   
that I have to put together an 'automagic' synchronization system.)

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
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[Samba] User account unable to be updated

[Robert Adkins]

Hello All,

I have recently needed to add two new mounted network drives to a client   
workstation running Windows 2000 Professional. This machine is joined to   
the Samba 2.2.5-10 running PDC and has access to all of the network   
shares, with proper permissions that it was configured with when the PDC   
was brought online roughly one and a half months ago.

The user now requires permanent access to two additional network shares   
and those have been added to the user account logon .bat file, the   
account has been added to the groups that have access to those shares and   
it has been confirmed that the shares is configured to allow all members   
of those groups access the share.

Now, when the user logs onto the workstation, those new shares pause the   
logon .bat window and ask for a password. When the user account password   
is entered, the bat file continues and ends, without mounting up the new   
shares.

So, I went into the My Network Places icon and attempted to manually   
mount those shares. This popped up a Username/Password window and it   
refused to mount up the share when the user account and password was   
entered. I also used the username/password combination of all the users   
that have access to those shares and not a single username/password   
combination functioned. (Although with using other username/passwords an   
error message about the credentials being used elsewhere popped up on the   
screen.)

I have read some remarks on this list regarding machine passwords and   
how those are typically automatically updated by Windows 2000 machines   
across a Windows Domain. Could that be causing the problems that I am   
experiencing with this user account?

If so, how does one go about fixing this issue?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


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RE: [Samba] brian.casey@mscsoftware.com

[Robert Adkins]

Everyone could setup an auto-responder to send replies to his E-mail   
address that contains instructions on how to properly setup his mail   
filters to skip the auto reply to this and any other mailing lists he is   
associated with.

Perhaps when his company sees the incredible slow-down on their mail   
server and investigates the issue. They could unplug his machine from   
their network, freeing us all of the scourge his auto responder is   
providing us.

Of course, he might also feel quite mortified to find out that his inbox   
is filled with some 100,000 E-mails that have directions to keep him from   
being viewed as a techno-illiterate in the future. (Can you imagine how   
long it would take to delete those E-mails using Outlook?)

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Paul Yeager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kristyan Osborne; Robert Adkins
Cc: Samba (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Samba] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Out of office

   

I sure *hope* so!

Perhaps if folks who inflicted such things on the list were just
suspended until they requested reinstatement, folks might get a hint!

Is there anything in the mail header that might identify automatic
replies as such, and could be used to filter them?

Not that I'm perfect. my posts occasionally get bounced for being in
HTML format.

Paul

Kristyan Osborne wrote:

Is it possible to suspend this user from getting mail for a week   
otherwise we are going to get loads of out of office reports???

Cheers


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 January 2003 13:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] I am out of the office.


I will be out of the office starting  01/21/2003 and will not return   
until
01/28/2003.

I will respond to your message when I return.  If you have questions
regarding product licensing, please contact Natalie Rezek, at   
323-259-4910;
for any other issues requiring immediate attention, please contact Kevin
Kilroy at 714-445-5623.






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RE: [Samba] User account unable to be up

[Robert Adkins]

SORRY!

I solved the issue. It was nothing major.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Robert Adkins
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] User account unable to be updated

   

Hello All,

I have recently needed to add two new mounted network drives to a client   


workstation running Windows 2000 Professional. This machine is joined to   


the Samba 2.2.5-10 running PDC and has access to all of the network
shares, with proper permissions that it was configured with when the PDC   


was brought online roughly one and a half months ago.

The user now requires permanent access to two additional network shares   


and those have been added to the user account logon .bat file, the
account has been added to the groups that have access to those shares and   


it has been confirmed that the shares is configured to allow all members   


of those groups access the share.

Now, when the user logs onto the workstation, those new shares pause the   


logon .bat window and ask for a password. When the user account password   


is entered, the bat file continues and ends, without mounting up the new   


shares.

So, I went into the My Network Places icon and attempted to manually
mount those shares. This popped up a Username/Password window and it
refused to mount up the share when the user account and password was
entered. I also used the username/password combination of all the users   


that have access to those shares and not a single username/password
combination functioned. (Although with using other username/passwords an   


error message about the credentials being used elsewhere popped up on the   


screen.)

I have read some remarks on this list regarding machine passwords and
how those are typically automatically updated by Windows 2000 machines
across a Windows Domain. Could that be causing the problems that I am
experiencing with this user account?

If so, how does one go about fixing this issue?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


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[Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID file...

[Robert Adkins]

Hello,

I am setting up our backup Linux server to act a BDC to our Linux PDC.   
In the directions that are available within the Swat Online Help... There   
is a section that states that the private/MACHINE.SID file must be copied   
over exactly as is to the Samba BDC in order for that machine to act as a   
Samba BDC to a Samba PDC.

For the life of me, I have been unable to locate that file. I have   
updated by locatedb and have searched for it using a variety of strings   
and options...

Does anyone know where that file is?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


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RE: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID fil

[Robert Adkins]

Additional Info...

I am beginning to think that a file called 'secrets.tdb' might be what I   
am looking for. Inside that file is something mentioning SID. Of course,   
it also mentions the name of the PDC.

If that is the file I am supposed to copy over. Then it is done.   
However, I still need a little more input for setting up a Samba BDC.

With a Samba BDC, should I leave the server Netbios the same as the PDC   
or change that to the name of the BDC? If the latter is the case, do I   
then need to change the server name in the 'secrets.tdb' file to match   
the server name in the smb.conf file?

Everything else in the BDC directions makes perfect sense and is   
currently done. I just need answers to these final questions before   
bringing the Samba service up live on that server.



Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Robert Adkins
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Locating the MACHINE.SID file...

   

Hello,

I am setting up our backup Linux server to act a BDC to our Linux PDC.   


In the directions that are available within the Swat Online Help... There   


is a section that states that the private/MACHINE.SID file must be copied   


over exactly as is to the Samba BDC in order for that machine to act as a   


Samba BDC to a Samba PDC.

For the life of me, I have been unable to locate that file. I have
updated by locatedb and have searched for it using a variety of strings   


and options...

Does anyone know where that file is?

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


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RE: [Samba] frustration samba and LDAP

[Robert Adkins]

Richard,

So far, it has been my experience that learning (Open)LDAP is really no   
more difficult then learning Microsoft's Active Directory system. The   
only major difference that I see is that (Open)LDAP appears to be easier   
to recover, if there happens to be corruptions and such.

Since you can basically create a flat text file and run a command that   
reads in that entire (Open)LDAP structure into the (Open)LDAP DB from   
that flat file.

Of course, I am only beginning to look at (Open)LDAP, but I hope to have   
it all configured for our network soon. Unless I can think of a different   
method for keeping all of the user accounts, machine accounts and network   
information synced amongst the servers.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] frustration samba and LDAP

   

did someone really try to make this complicated or did it really just
turn out this way?? How can any of you use LDAP with its..
cn=xyz ou=abc godknows=whatelse  ..complicated syntax.
I thought learning command line Linux was hardI don't want to go
through that again!

*) frustrations not withstanding...I do sincerely thank the Samba team
for a package which has served us well for 3 years.
R.C.


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RE: [Samba] Re: frustration samba and LD

[Robert Adkins]

Jim,

Perhaps you should forward your concerns to the OpenLDAP developers list   
and hopefully they can work out something to streamline the process.   
Perhaps they are already working on streamlining the system and require   
some help in tightening up some of their ideas.

I am sure that they would welcome any suggestions that you may have.

Of course, some of the issues that you have experienced also appear to   
have come from Samba's implementation of chatting with LDAP. Perhaps   
there are some things you could forward to the Samba developers that   
could also make for a much easier to operate Samba/(Open)LDAP experience.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Re: frustration samba and LDAP

   

   So far, it has been my experience that learning (Open)LDAP is really   
no
 more difficult then learning Microsoft's Active Directory system. The   


 only major difference that I see is that (Open)LDAP appears to be   
easier
 to recover, if there happens to be corruptions and such.

Actually, I'm going to side with him.  Figureing out the setup has taken
me just under 6 months which is way too long.  IMHO, the problem isn't
that the system is complex, exactly.  Rather that it can seem so complex
that one constantly winds up second guessing.  It has too many
components to keep track of and integrate (ACL's, smb.conf slapd.conf
ldap.conf ldap.secret, search syntax etc. etc..).  Despite thier
individual complexity I've felt that they are collectively complex.  If
one isn't good at decomposeing problems into smaller domains, then one
might be in trouble.  Also there is the problem of thinking in an extra
dimension for an object orientated database system when most of us are
trained to think in relational terms.  Couple this with the lack of an
easy to use and understand query language/syntax (i.e. that we are
spoiled by SQL)...


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RE: [Samba] Does 3MB/sec seem as fast as

[Robert Adkins]

John,

I haven't done any direct performance testing, although I am planning on   
figuring that out now. (BTW, how is performance testing ran?) However, I   
can say that since converting over to the Samba PDC/File Server that the   
file transfer performance just feels much faster.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: John H Terpstra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kees Damen; Robert Adkins
Cc: Samba List
Subject: Re: [Samba] Does 3MB/sec seem as fast as Samba is?

   

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Kees Damen wrote:

 Hi,
 I think that in Windows there is code that
 detect that the server is not an original
 Windows NT or 2000 server box. After this
 detection Windows give's extra waits in the
 I/O to frustrate the user and encourage him
 to buy original Windows Server software.
 I don't trust these guys in Redmond.

Sorry. I do not buy that story. I am able to get up to 11MB/sec on
100-Base-T and up to 30MB/sec over 1GBit Ethernet.

Client is AMD MP1600+, 512MB RAM, Server is AMD MP1500+, 1GB RAM, 3Ware
IDE RAID with 3 WD60GB 7200rpm drives.

 - John T.
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[Samba] Something I dislike

[Robert Adkins]

Hello,

When I sometimes sit down at my Samba PDC and fire up the monitor, there   
are occasionally some log file messages displaying on the screen. This is   
while nobody is logged onto the local server, it is displayed right over   
the logon prompt.

Here is an example...

smb_trans2_request: result=-104, setting invalid
smb_retry: successful, new pid=3347, generation=4

From what I gather, it appears that samba is running into an error and   
then it is spawning another process to take care of the user request. I   
can and should  find out exactly what is happening to cause that, but   
right now I want to see what I can do to keep those messages from   
appearing on the monitor.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


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RE: [Samba] Printer not accessible! Plea

[Robert Adkins]

Martin,

There is a great deal more that needs to be done other then the creation   
of a smb.conf file for setting up a PDC for any Windows workstations.

Unfortunately, I only have experience with setting up a PDC for a mixed   
bag of Windows 9x, Windows NT 4.0 and Win2K systems. The only WinXP   
machine we utilize is one laptop, which is rarely ever attached to the   
corporate network. So, that machine is just setup for to see our domain   
as a workgroup.

I do know that some of the things that you need for a Samba PDC include   
setting up machine accounts in both your normal UNIX environment and also   
in the smbpasswd file. You also need a netlogon directory and a profiles   
directory, if you are using roaming profiles.

Unfortunately, I don't have enough time available to go over all the   
configurations with you, since I am a one-man IT Department with many   
projects currently in the works... What I can do is send you some links   
and provide some guidance towards some information that helped me   
greatly.

One thing I recommend is to pick up a copy of the O'Reilly book, Using   
Samba. While it is slightly dated these days, the book was immeasurably   
helpful as it explained quite a bit about how SMB (In Windows) works and   
gave some great background information for configuring a Samba PDC.

Another wonderful resource is the built-in Swat HTML help files. If you   
haven't taken a look at Swat yet, definitely do so. It should have been   
part of your installation process for the version of Samba that you are   
using. One thing to consider before using Swat, is that Swat will rewrite   
your configuration file. This is important, because Samba rereads that   
file about every 20 to 30 seconds. This rewrite streamlines the file and   
allows Samba to turn up the speed considerably, especially if you have   
many shares. What it does is remove ALL of the comments and in-file   
documentation.

Another tool that I used to configure my Samba install is webmin. It can   
be found at www.webmin.com. This tool is awesome for remotely   
administrating a UNIX Server, if you want to use a GUI tool. (Sometimes I   
really enjoy using such a tool, even though I am comfortable with CLI   
configurations.) Webmin will display everything at once in an easy to   
read format. The only thing it currently doesn't support configuring is a   
Samba PDC.

Here are a few links to some helpful Samba PDC setups:

http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue6/m6samba1.html

http://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/index.htm - There is a link titled   
Samba File/Print Sharing which should prove helpful as it has a section   
dedicated to Samba PDC.

The final thing that I can recommend is to use the latest release of   
Samba. I have read of a number of issues with older releases of Samba   
with Windows XP and Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 (but not SP1 or SP2   
of Windows 2000.) I didn't have the time to really dig into those issues   
and I wouldn't be able to reproduce them here since I haven|t quite the   
same configurations of OSs. So, I can only imagine that MS made some   
minor changes to the way those client Operating Systems talk via the   
SMB protocol.

I hope that has been helpful. Good luck with yor network!

Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Martin Peter Hanke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Printer not accessible! Please review my conf on leaks

   

   

Hi,

I'm having problems with my printer, I can't access the printer not even
as root! Please review my smb.conf and give me some hints on what I
messed up. If you have some enhancements for me please add comments.

Thanks for your efforts,

Martin

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RE: [Samba] Printer not accessible! Plea

[Robert Adkins]

Martin,

Having the Domain name in the workgroup would do the trick. I did that   
because the end-user typically works on a Windows 2000 Workstation, with   
some different software then is installed on the laptop. The roaming   
profiles I have configured end up wreaking havoc between the laptop and   
the workstation.

Since I didn't have the time to dig deeper and didn't wish to create two   
logons for that user, having the laptop working as if connected to a   
workgroup was and currently is the best option.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Martin Peter Hanke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Robert Adkins
Subject: Re: [Samba] Printer not accessible! Plea

   

Hi,

thanks just ordered the O'Reilly book, guess it will be helpfull, by the
way you are joining the laptop to the domain with the name of the domain
in the workgroup setting? Is this right? I have the problem we will have
up to 8 notebooks which will not be joined to the domain but have to
access the data on the server.

Is this the way to go?

Martin
Robert Adkins wrote:

Martin,

   There is a great deal more that needs to be done other then the   
creation
of a smb.conf file for setting up a PDC for any Windows workstations.

   Unfortunately, I only have experience with setting up a PDC for a mixed   


bag of Windows 9x, Windows NT 4.0 and Win2K systems. The only WinXP
machine we utilize is one laptop, which is rarely ever attached to the   


corporate network. So, that machine is just setup for to see our domain   


as a workgroup.

   I do know that some of the things that you need for a Samba PDC include   


setting up machine accounts in both your normal UNIX environment and   
also
in the smbpasswd file. You also need a netlogon directory and a profiles   


directory, if you are using roaming profiles.

   Unfortunately, I don't have enough time available to go over all the
configurations with you, since I am a one-man IT Department with many
projects currently in the works... What I can do is send you some links   


and provide some guidance towards some information that helped me
greatly.

   One thing I recommend is to pick up a copy of the O'Reilly book, Using   


Samba. While it is slightly dated these days, the book was immeasurably   


helpful as it explained quite a bit about how SMB (In Windows) works and   


gave some great background information for configuring a Samba PDC.

   Another wonderful resource is the built-in Swat HTML help files. If you   


haven't taken a look at Swat yet, definitely do so. It should have been   


part of your installation process for the version of Samba that you are   


using. One thing to consider before using Swat, is that Swat will   
rewrite
your configuration file. This is important, because Samba rereads that   


file about every 20 to 30 seconds. This rewrite streamlines the file and   


allows Samba to turn up the speed considerably, especially if you have   


many shares. What it does is remove ALL of the comments and in-file
documentation.

   Another tool that I used to configure my Samba install is webmin. It   
can
be found at www.webmin.com. This tool is awesome for remotely
administrating a UNIX Server, if you want to use a GUI tool. (Sometimes   
I
really enjoy using such a tool, even though I am comfortable with CLI
configurations.) Webmin will display everything at once in an easy to
read format. The only thing it currently doesn't support configuring is   
a
Samba PDC.

   Here are a few links to some helpful Samba PDC setups:

   http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue6/m6samba1.html

   http://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/index.htm - There is a link titled
Samba File/Print Sharing which should prove helpful as it has a   
section
dedicated to Samba PDC.

   The final thing that I can recommend is to use the latest release of
Samba. I have read of a number of issues with older releases of Samba
with Windows XP and Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 (but not SP1 or SP2   


of Windows 2000.) I didn't have the time to really dig into those issues   


and I wouldn't be able to reproduce them here since I haven|t quite the   


same configurations of OSs. So, I can only imagine that MS made some
minor changes to the way those client Operating Systems talk via the   


SMB protocol.

   I hope that has been helpful. Good luck with yor network!

Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: Martin Peter Hanke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Adkins
Subject: [Samba] Printer not accessible! Please review my conf on leaks





Hi,

I'm having

RE: [Samba] Profiles ...

[Robert Adkins]

Unless your users are using Outlook (or virtually any E-mail client for   
that matter) I have a few users with .PST files that are over 1Gig in   
size. This is due to the regular amount of data files that we are sent. I   
have discussed with them the need to trim those files down.

However, that isn't something that they are considering doing. My hands   
are pretty tied with that right now.

In the near future, I am planning on replacing the current locally   
stored .PST files with an IMAP server. There are a few other things that   
I can do after that to cut down on the logon/logoff time. However, I have   
other more pressing matters to attend to.

Anyway, our network speed is swift enough to get those logoffs down to   
about twenty minutes or so...(Crazy I know, but that's what it takes.)   
Logons are thankfully much faster.

Regards,
Robert Adkins II
IT Manager/Buyer
Impel Industries, Inc.
Ph. 586-254-5800
Fx. 586-254-5804


 -Original Message-
From: John H Terpstra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; C.Lee Taylor; Robert Adkins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Samba] Profiles ...

   

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, C.Lee Taylor wrote:

 Greetings ...

   This is a stupid question which have been wanting to ask for awhile,
 and hope somebody can help me.

   Profiles, if I understand it correctly come in two forms, local and
 roaming?  Now local in on the computer the user uses and roaming is one
 that is download from the server when the user logs in.

Correct.

   Now, where my problem is, when I have some users who have huge
 documents folder, this log on and log off takes a long time, not   
mention
 the problems I have run into when their computer is turn off
 incorrectly.  I am sure this is a Micro$oftism, but is there a way to
 use roaming profiles, but have then use directly off the server and not
 copied to and from the server at login and logout?

This is simply a symptom of BAD BAD BAD practice. You need to educate   
your
users that they should store documents on a drive share. Keep profiles
clean and small by making them mandatory. See the Win2K/WinXP resource
kits for details how to create a mandatory profile. This forces your   
users
to use network drives instead of dropping their poop all over the shop.

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