[Samba] I still don't understand it-- what is the relation between cause and effect?
I have posted more messages, essentially to the same effect... had quite a few good answers, but somehow I seem to be missing something ... :-( Well, I told you already about the workgroup DAARO, which refused to show up... I got some suggestions, and, indeed, there it was! I could even log in to it. And then, next morning, I started up my test network, ... no DAARO. However, after a restart of samba (/etc/rc.d/rc.samba restart) it appeared again. Without any changes in teh config. However, although I saw DAARO, clicking on it gave me an error message (something like device does not exist in Dutch). On the other hand, after restarting samba again, still without any changes, I could suddenly log in to the domain. Well, this is not the clear relation between cause and effect which I prefer. Of course it is unavoidable once you get involved in a Microsoft mess... . I think it is time to become somewhat more fundamental(ist). I mean, if I ever want to find out what's going on, I will probably have to understand what these lousy sloppy Microsoft protocols really do. And of course, being closed source, this won't be trivial. Can anyone point out some documents that give information on the internals of MS networking protocols? I think there are some around, but I haven't located them yet... -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] I changed smb.conf, but nothing seems to happen!
Hello, * After some good advice from the list, I now have my workgroup visible. Next problem. I click on it from my win98 station (yes, it is old; I even have a w95 workstation somewhere :-) ) and I get can't find share name. Now I look in the samba logs, and I see that it is looking for /usr/local/samba/netlogon, which doesn't exist. Oops, error! The netlogon happens to be in /etc/samba/netlogon, so I change the path in smb.conf and restart Samba. I try again, but now my Win98 station keeps trying to access /usr/local/samba/netlogon. How come? I suppose that the easiest way out is to put a link to the right location in /usr/local, but somehow that doesn't feel right. -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Re: I changed smb.conf, but nothing seems to happen!
I found it already-- there was a second ocurrence of /usr/loca/... under [netlogon]. Now why are there two occurrences? -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Re: workgroup remains invisible!
On Monday 03 March 2008 13:01:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/2/2008, joop gerritse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: security = share This is incorrect for a domain/PDC, should be: security = user I changed it, however, no effect seen yet... When asking questions, it is usually necessary to mention what OS/Distribution you are using, what version of Samba, how it was installed, etc... I am running Slackware 12.0, Samba 3.0.28. And testparm gives no error messages... -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] workgroup remains invisible!
Hello, * I am trying to install a PDC. It is completely reachable, all shares can be accessed, but somehow the workgroup DAARO never shows up in the Network Neighborhood of the Windows machines on my network. I have experimented with preferred, domain, and localmaster settings, to no avail. What am I missing? Here is my smb.conf: # Samba config file created using SWAT # from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) # Date: 2008/03/01 17:23:36 [global] workgroup = DAARO server string = Samba Server N2k6 log file = /var/log/samba-log.%m max log size = 50 acl compatibility = winnt server signing = Auto printcap name = cups logon script = %m.bat logon path = /usr/local/samba/netlogon domain logons = yes preferred master = yes domain master = yes dns proxy = no ldap ssl = No remote announce = 192.168.087.255/IKKE hosts allow = 192.168.87., 127. printing = cups print command = lpq command = %p lprm command = default case = upper security = share restrict anonymous = no max protocol = NT [homes] comment = Home Directories path = /home/%u read only = No [netlogon] comment = Network Logon Service path = /usr/local/samba/netlogon guest ok = Yes share modes = No [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba/ create mask = 0700 guest ok = Yes printable = Yes browseable = No [tmp] comment = Temporary file space path = /tmp read only = No guest ok = Yes [Penti-E] comment = Former Penti E Drive path = /mnt/hd/dose read only = No guest ok = Yes [CD-ROM] comment = DVD path = /mnt/cdrom guest ok = Yes -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Does anyone know why sometimes a PDC appears in the Network neigborhood, and sometimes it doesn't?
On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:42:43, Aaron J. Zirbes wrote: This is a Computer Browser issue. If your samba server is always on, make sure the Computer Browser service is turned off on all other machines. That should solve your problem... well, I do not know if there _are_ any services on Win98 and Win95 machines (and I run a lot of these in a volunteer job). However, I just found that the problem has simply vanished. Thanks for your advice, anyway. Still, this somehow does not feel right... Do cause and effect play any role in MS systems? -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Does anyone know why sometimes a PDC appears in the Network neigborhood, and sometimes it doesn't?
The subject says it all, I think. At home I have a PDC (Linux with Samba), and I have Win98 and Win 95(!) clients. And sometimes the domain name (workgroup name) is visble in the Network neigborhood, and sometimes it is not. I also got the impression that placing a link in the file NETHOOD makes a difference, but I am not sure yet. The PDC is visible, that is, it can be PINGed, I can connect to the shares, I can even login to it, but nothing shows up in the Network Neighborhood, and if I click on the Whole network icon, I get an empty network displayed. -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] net use h: /home syntax?
I am setting up a Win98 client to work with my samba server. I can log in on the domain allright, but then I would expect to get access to my home directory by issuing (in a DOS box): NET USE H: /HOME For some reason I am told that the syntax is not correct. On the other hand net use /? gives exactly this as one of the options. Does anyone know what is wrong with it? -- J.J. Gerritse Mühlenstraße 11 D-47546 Kalkar-Wissel Duitsland +49-2824-971487 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Re: samba Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 14:03:05 John Drescher wrote: I commented out the remote announce line, so I guess that is not part of the mechanism. This is only for networks with more than one subnet. Nevertheless, today I found out that it is also needed on a single LAN with several workgroups. I have two servers, both domain controllers: Server1 has workgroup name = LIEMERS-MUSEUM Server2 has workgroup name = LIEMERS2MUSEUM Without the remote announce, I could see both workgroups in Network Neighborhood = Complete network, but I only saw server 1 in Network neighborhood itself. Only after uncommenting the line remote announce = 10.0.0.3/LIEMERS-MUSEUM (where 10.0.0.3 is the address of Server1) I could see Server2 in the network neighborhood. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] OK. there I am again!
Well, I read quite a few documents; thanks for pointing them out... And I got it working... The most important point I learned is P_a_t_i_e_n_c_e! You really have to wait a few minutes after having modified your smb.conf and restarted samba. And you have plenty of time to reboot your client, I am not sure whether you really need this, but anyway... it really takes quite some minutes before even the most limited changes have trickled through a (not really big) network. In general, I started removing lines from the inherited smb.conf, all lines of which I did not understand the purpose, and then restarting samba and the client, and see what happened. I still have some questions, though... First of all: what is a domain name in Samba? I only saw a workgroup name as the parameter. Just to try, I changed it into something completely different, and after some time I saw it appear as a workgroup. But then I could also enter it as a domain name (on W98 stations, anyway), and I could really log in to it. Even though I now have a PDC on the domain LIEMERS-MUSEUM, and a BDC (without a PDC) on the domain LIEMERS2MUSEUM, it seems to work. So my conjecture for the moment is that the domain name equals the workgroup name. Right? Second: in my inherited smb.conf, I have a share [users]. I do not know what it is for, but if I comment it out, the workgroup LIEMERS2MUSEUM vanishes from the Workgroups in the network Environment. So I guess it serves some purpose but which one? Third: I read quite a lot about how to set up various servers, but not too many details on exactly what the SMB protocols do. I read something about elections, and I think that part is fairly clear to me, but I am quite curious about what several parties in the game are really doing. For instance, when a server comes up, how does the rest of the world know? I commented out the remote announce line, so I guess that is not part of the mechanism. Anyway, if the server is initially the only node in the network, this will not be significant anyway. If a client comes up, what happens? Does it broadcast its presence throughout the network? Do all servers respond? I also read something about browser nodes, but how are they established? How do they announce their presence? In general: is there any detail documentation on MS SMB protocols, not just the message format but rather the exact mechanisms? They may be described somewhere, but I haven't discovered them yet... I have more questions, but these are the most pressing ones at the moment. Thanks a lot in advance for any clues. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] smb.conf, in addition to my questions of yesterday
Hello, * Here is my current smb.conf . I didn't want to send it immediately (in some groups that is not done) and I have omitted some dozens of shares at the end, which are similar to the ones present. [global] workgroup = LIEMERS-MUSEUM netbios name = HPserver server string = HP server (Samba %v) # printing = cups # printcap name = cups # printcap cache time = 750 # cups options = raw username map = /etc/samba/smbusers # map to guest = Bad User # include = /etc/samba/dhcp.conf logon path = \\%L\profiles\.msprofile logon home = \\%L\%U\.9xprofile logon drive = P: security = user encrypt passwords = yes smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd unix password sync = yes passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u passwd chat = *Enter\sUNIX\spassword:*%n\n*Retype\snew\sUNIX\spassword:%n\n. add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -c Machine -d /var/lib/nobody -s /bin/false %m$ domain logons = yes domain master = no # remote announce = 10.0.0.3/LIEMERS-MUSEUM browsable = yes # ldap idmap suffix = ou=Idmap # ldap machine suffix = ou=Computers local master = yes preferred master = no os level = 69 # ldap suffix = dc=example,dc=com passdb backend = smbpasswd wins support = no wins server = [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S browseable = no read only = no inherit acls = yes [profiles] comment = Network Profiles Service path = %H read only = no store dos attributes = yes create mask = 0600 directory mask = 0700 [users] comment = All users path = /home read only = no inherit acls = yes veto files = /aquota.user/groups/shares/ [groups] comment = All groups path = /home/groups read only = no inherit acls = yes [pdf] comment = PDF creator path = /var/tmp printable = yes # print command = /usr/bin/smbprngenpdf -J '%J' -c %c -s %s -u '%u' -z %z create mask = 0600 [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/tmp printable = yes create mask = 0600 browseable = no #[print$] # comment = Printer Drivers # path = /var/lib/samba/drivers # write list = @ntadmin root # force group = ntadmin # create mask = 0664 # directory mask = 0775 [fotos] comment = Foto-bestanden path = /museum/data-fotocollectie writeable = yes create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 [backup] comment = Backupschijf path = /usr/backup writeable = yes create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 [adlib] comment = Adlib bestanden path = /usr/museum/adlib writeable = yes create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 [omitting the remaining shares for brevity] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] smb.conf, in addition to my questions of yesterday
On Saturday 04 August 2007 11:27:27 John Drescher wrote: [...] You are not using AD, LDAP or winbindd but you are using the tdbsam with mapped users security method. You are not using a wins server and the samba server will not be the master browser (this may be a problem). Right. I think I will use LDAP later, but, if I understand the documents I've seen so far, it is only needed if you want to keep the user databases in step between PDC and BDC. I was not aware that I was using the tdbsam, but I have just seen a completely new source of documentation, so I will read that first; at least I now know that it exists... I am not planning to use a wins server, unless I really need it, and I am still pondering over your last remark: I have domain master = no local master = yes preferred master = no (I have tried quite a few other settings, though...), but at least it should be the local master, and in the absence of the PDC, wouldn't it become the master by default? I see you have a lot of shares configured and the detail in the smb.confsays that you have thought this one through. Do the users in the /etc/samba/smbusers that you have used to connect to from windows have their unix accounts created and is the password the same as the mapped user has in windows? yes. In fact, I copied over the whole /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, smbusers, and all home directories. So effectively they should have identical accounts on both machines (and don't tell me that this will soon become unmanageable-- I know. I want to get it to work first, then I have time to get that right ;-) ) Do you have a windows domain controller? Is it using active directory? I assume it is the master browser for the network? Are the nmbd and smbd daemons running on the samba server? yes. In fact, I copied everything over from that machine. It is not using AD. It runs smbd and nmbd. Currently, everyone logs in on that machine, and I want to make sure that I can take its functions over on the second machine before I can take it out of service for a good overhaul (which it needs quite badly). But, anyway, I have just seen a complete new source of information. I think my original plan was too simple-minded (never think Microsoft will miss an occasion to create a terrible mess :-( I should have known... ). So I will first go through all these HOWTOs before coming back to the list. Of course, if you find any errors in my current smb.conf, I will be quite happy to correct them... Thanks anyway for your input so far. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] smb.conf, in addition to my questions of yesterday
On Saturday 04 August 2007 18:19:13 joop gerritse wrote: [...] Do you have a windows domain controller? [...] yes. I think I misread that question. No, it's not a Windows machine. It is a Linux server, and it runs Samba. And I think it has been set up by someone who just used trial and error, just like me, so far... -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] inconsistency?
I am less than familiar with Microsoft, so I guess it might be an FAQ... if I click on network neighborhood which reveals a Samba server, it shows a list of all shares. If I click on a share, I get a message cannot find share name. Somehow this does not sound logical to me... what is wrong? -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] my next question: no accesss
Even if I can find back a share, (which I sometimes can, for no clear reason) then the next message I get is no access. I suspect this may be a Linux config thing, but I am still unable to figure what ownership rights I should give to the shares: root:root or someuser:users or samba:samba (this user:group does not exist as yet). What is meant by no access: is it a Windows or a Unix message (well, I suspect that this question is not unusual in a mixed environment). -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] maybe I should explain what i am after!
I have sent a few messages already, but perhaps I should start from the other side, and give a clear indication of what I want to achieve. Well, here goes... I am working for a volunteer organization. They have quite a few Windows workstations, most W98, and a few XPs (and, currently, one Vista). There is one Linux server, running Samba, and holding all shares. It also acts as the PDC, and all users can log in to it. Now this server begins to be somewhat flaky, and I should like to add a second server, initially to act as a BDC, then to take over the operation so I can take down the current server and find out what' s wrong with it. Copying the data is no problem (it is some 300G, so it took some time), but then? I started just copying the smb.conf from the primary controller, and setting the priority somewhat lower. I assumed that it would just lose the election from the PDC, and still stay present, and available. I am aware of the difficulties of keeping the user directories in sync; this would, in due course, require LDAP, but for the moment I decided that the user population is quite stable, so I just copy /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and smbpasswd over in the --rare-- event that a user is added or removed. 1. It is quite hard to even make the second controller visible. In fact, I had to include a remote announce = Ip address of PDC/workgroup name line before it even showed up in Network Environment. And I am quite unsure whether this is the right way, it just worked, to some extent. 2. I am not sure whether the backup domain controller will function as such. How could I be? If I take down the primary I might find out, but the server is too critical for the whole organization to just try. How can I make sure that a BDC will work without taking down the PDC? 3. And then there is the irregular behavior which I mentioned before. Sometimes the host is visible, but the shares are inaccessible; sometimes I can even get a view of the shares, but I cannot access them. In addition, i have a far simpler configuration at home, where I can just read and write to the shares. So I know it can be done, but what are the rules? And I am no Windows expert. I know quite a lot about Linux, but the apparent (lack of) logic in Windows baffles me. That is the background. Maybe it helps to get the right answers. thanks in advance for any attempts. BTW I am quite happy with an RTFM answer, as long as it's accompanied with a URL. I have read quite a few FMs, but so far without real enlightenment... -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] and yet another one
And then, all of a sudden, i could access my home directory on the additional server, but no other shares! That means, I could click on my home directory, and see its contents, but I could not see any other shares. But note: I was logged in on the primary server, not on this one! -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
