Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
Exchange 2000 needs active direc., so you have to have a working active directory with a win 2k server as Pdc, Samba cant act only as member of active directory. Exchange 2000 will never accept a Samba Pdc It should be possible with exchange 5.5 cause samba 3 can act like win nt 4 server But exchange 5.5 will outdated very soon, take a look to comercial exchange alternatives like samsung or suse, or free produkts like kolab ,opengroupware that will do the job of exchange too. The problem with using linux mailservers with funktions like exchange is the client ( outlook ) there are comercial conectors which enables outlook to use linux mailserver with the exchange funktions. Best Regards - Original Message - From: Don Bivens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange? Active Directory is not a PDC. You have to forest prep and domain prep against the Directory and then install Exchange. It works easiest on the machine that hosts AD (assuming you only have one) but it can be installed on a seperate box from the DC. Allen Bolderoff wrote: So, E2k requires w2k acting as PDC? Or can it be a member server? -Original Message- From: Don Bivens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 9:18 AM To: Allen Bolderoff Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange? E2K requires W2K Allen Bolderoff wrote: I have been asked to set up a customer with Exchange 2000. I have tried to convert them, so please don't suggest it. We have 3 boxes we can use to do this with. We want to use Samba 3 as the PDC (ldap backend) and Samba 3 as BDC (ldap backend), with the exchange box as a domain member. Will this work? If not, what is the best way to ensure that : a. We have PDC and BDC for authentication purposes. b. Exchange server works as it should, authentication being from said PDC or BDC. c. File serving at minimum should be from Samba Do I understand right that ES2k needs AD? If so, does this mean I have to run 2 x W2k servers in order to achieve this? (1 w2k PDC and 1 w2k BDC) Is there any way to do it, or is anyone doing it with samba as the PDC and BDC? TIA Allen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
Samba can act only as member of active directory is right, sorry - Original Message - From: rruegner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don Bivens [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange? Exchange 2000 needs active direc., so you have to have a working active directory with a win 2k server as Pdc, Samba cant act only as member of active directory. Exchange 2000 will never accept a Samba Pdc It should be possible with exchange 5.5 cause samba 3 can act like win nt 4 server But exchange 5.5 will outdated very soon, take a look to comercial exchange alternatives like samsung or suse, or free produkts like kolab ,opengroupware that will do the job of exchange too. The problem with using linux mailservers with funktions like exchange is the client ( outlook ) there are comercial conectors which enables outlook to use linux mailserver with the exchange funktions. Best Regards - Original Message - From: Don Bivens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange? Active Directory is not a PDC. You have to forest prep and domain prep against the Directory and then install Exchange. It works easiest on the machine that hosts AD (assuming you only have one) but it can be installed on a seperate box from the DC. Allen Bolderoff wrote: So, E2k requires w2k acting as PDC? Or can it be a member server? -Original Message- From: Don Bivens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 9:18 AM To: Allen Bolderoff Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange? E2K requires W2K Allen Bolderoff wrote: I have been asked to set up a customer with Exchange 2000. I have tried to convert them, so please don't suggest it. We have 3 boxes we can use to do this with. We want to use Samba 3 as the PDC (ldap backend) and Samba 3 as BDC (ldap backend), with the exchange box as a domain member. Will this work? If not, what is the best way to ensure that : a. We have PDC and BDC for authentication purposes. b. Exchange server works as it should, authentication being from said PDC or BDC. c. File serving at minimum should be from Samba Do I understand right that ES2k needs AD? If so, does this mean I have to run 2 x W2k servers in order to achieve this? (1 w2k PDC and 1 w2k BDC) Is there any way to do it, or is anyone doing it with samba as the PDC and BDC? TIA Allen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Best way for exchange?
I have been asked to set up a customer with Exchange 2000. I have tried to convert them, so please don't suggest it. We have 3 boxes we can use to do this with. We want to use Samba 3 as the PDC (ldap backend) and Samba 3 as BDC (ldap backend), with the exchange box as a domain member. Will this work? If not, what is the best way to ensure that : a. We have PDC and BDC for authentication purposes. b. Exchange server works as it should, authentication being from said PDC or BDC. c. File serving at minimum should be from Samba Do I understand right that ES2k needs AD? If so, does this mean I have to run 2 x W2k servers in order to achieve this? (1 w2k PDC and 1 w2k BDC) Is there any way to do it, or is anyone doing it with samba as the PDC and BDC? TIA Allen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
E2K requires W2K Allen Bolderoff wrote: I have been asked to set up a customer with Exchange 2000. I have tried to convert them, so please don't suggest it. We have 3 boxes we can use to do this with. We want to use Samba 3 as the PDC (ldap backend) and Samba 3 as BDC (ldap backend), with the exchange box as a domain member. Will this work? If not, what is the best way to ensure that : a. We have PDC and BDC for authentication purposes. b. Exchange server works as it should, authentication being from said PDC or BDC. c. File serving at minimum should be from Samba Do I understand right that ES2k needs AD? If so, does this mean I have to run 2 x W2k servers in order to achieve this? (1 w2k PDC and 1 w2k BDC) Is there any way to do it, or is anyone doing it with samba as the PDC and BDC? TIA Allen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
Active Directory is not a PDC. You have to forest prep and domain prep against the Directory and then install Exchange. It works easiest on the machine that hosts AD (assuming you only have one) but it can be installed on a seperate box from the DC. Allen Bolderoff wrote: So, E2k requires w2k acting as PDC? Or can it be a member server? -Original Message- From: Don Bivens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 9:18 AM To: Allen Bolderoff Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange? E2K requires W2K Allen Bolderoff wrote: I have been asked to set up a customer with Exchange 2000. I have tried to convert them, so please don't suggest it. We have 3 boxes we can use to do this with. We want to use Samba 3 as the PDC (ldap backend) and Samba 3 as BDC (ldap backend), with the exchange box as a domain member. Will this work? If not, what is the best way to ensure that : a. We have PDC and BDC for authentication purposes. b. Exchange server works as it should, authentication being from said PDC or BDC. c. File serving at minimum should be from Samba Do I understand right that ES2k needs AD? If so, does this mean I have to run 2 x W2k servers in order to achieve this? (1 w2k PDC and 1 w2k BDC) Is there any way to do it, or is anyone doing it with samba as the PDC and BDC? TIA Allen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
Active Directory is not a PDC. You have to forest prep and domain prep against the Directory and then install Exchange. It works easiest on the machine that hosts AD (assuming you only have one) but it can be installed on a seperate box from the DC. Thanks for your help Don, just to clarify, E2k requires AD. Therefore the only way to get 2 x authentication servers instead of 1, I will need to run 2x w2k servers with AD installed, working, and replicating. this way if the PDC equivalent machine goes down, the other machine will still handle authentication. And the samba box will have to be just a ADC member, which does not act as an authentication server itself. Either that or convince them to go to a *nix based messaging/groupware framework. Thanks Again Allen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
Allen Bolderoff wrote: Therefore the only way to get 2 x authentication servers instead of 1, I will need to run 2x w2k servers with AD installed, working, and replicating. this way if the PDC equivalent machine goes down, the other machine will still handle authentication. And the samba box will have to be just a ADC member, which does not act as an authentication server itself. Either that or convince them to go to a *nix based messaging/groupware framework. Correct. The really big pisser that I discovered recently is that while the 2 boxen can both handle directory request you still have a single point of failure. This thing called the global catalog is in the first domain controller and if you want to take that box down you have to migrate the Global Catalog. I'm not sure how bad it is when the DC dies and takes the Global Catalog with it but I know Exchange will quit working for one thing. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Best way for exchange?
What I did say was that a DC is not a PDC. PDC/BDC is an NT4 thing. ADS Servers and DC's are the same thing. You can have many DC's which means they run ADS. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Don Bivens wrote: Active Directory is not a PDC. You have to forest prep and domain prep against the Directory and then install Exchange. It works easiest on the machine that hosts AD (assuming you only have one) but it can be installed on a seperate box from the DC. I'm a unix geek and have been for my entire career. I'm fighting this ADS/PDC confusion right now, so if you can back up the assertion that an Active Directory Server can exist without being a Windows2000 Domain Controller (possibly running mixed-mode) with a pointer to some documentation saying as much I would be _ever_ so grateful. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
