Re: [Samba] Broken Samba in OS X. Any Alternatives?

2005-06-06 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:00:55PM +1000, Geoff Scott wrote:
 
 But on the Postfix list and anywhere else that Apple seems to use FOSS, the
 code from the upstream never seems to compile cleanly on Mac OS X.  As a
 long time Mac user I always wait for the Apple update to fix the problem.
 Or you can go to opendarwin.org and see if they have any suggestions. 

Yes, they don't seem to play well with others, do they. The right
way to do this is to cooperate in getting their changes back into
upstream code.

Unfortunately Apple changes their underlying system so much from
the original FreeBSD (adding Windows ACLs into the kernel and filesystem
for example) that almost certainly it's hard for us to accept such
alien patches.

 I just checked for binaries for you, fink's samba seems to be very old, 
 there is no Samba in the darwinports.  So it looks like you can either
 wrestle with the source from opendarwin:
 http://darwinsource.opendarwin.org/tarballs/other/samba-92.9.tar.gz or wait
 for Apple

Or Apple can learn how to cooperate with Open Source/Free Software projects.
But given what they did to the Konqueror code I'm not holding my breath
for that.

Jeremy.
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RE: [Samba] Broken Samba in OS X. Any Alternatives?

2005-06-05 Thread Geoff Scott
Jeremy Allison wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:51:44AM -0500, Kichigai Mentat wrote:
 We all know that in Mac OS X 10.4, and in the upgrade 10.4.1, Apple
 managed to break Samba. Now, I am at a great loss for remote
 filesystem mounting. Not only is Samba broken, but NFS is
 questionable (I can never seem to get rid of that incorrect
 username/ password error and retain read/write abilities). Also,
 I'm have trouble with netatalkd for Debian. Are there any other
 filesystem sharing systems that could work with OS X? I mean until
 Samba gets fixed. 
 
 Is there a reason you can't just compile Samba source from samba.org
 on OS X to fix the problem ? 
 
 Jeremy.

Jeremy,

I could have sworn I'd seen you commenting here on how much you disliked the
way that Apple had hacked the Samba code..

But on the Postfix list and anywhere else that Apple seems to use FOSS, the
code from the upstream never seems to compile cleanly on Mac OS X.  As a
long time Mac user I always wait for the Apple update to fix the problem.
Or you can go to opendarwin.org and see if they have any suggestions. 

I just checked for binaries for you, fink's samba seems to be very old, 
there is no Samba in the darwinports.  So it looks like you can either
wrestle with the source from opendarwin:
http://darwinsource.opendarwin.org/tarballs/other/samba-92.9.tar.gz or wait
for Apple

Regards Geoff Scott
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[Samba] Broken Samba in OS X. Any Alternatives?

2005-06-04 Thread Kichigai Mentat
We all know that in Mac OS X 10.4, and in the upgrade 10.4.1, Apple  
managed to break Samba. Now, I am at a great loss for remote  
filesystem mounting. Not only is Samba broken, but NFS is  
questionable (I can never seem to get rid of that incorrect username/ 
password error and retain read/write abilities). Also, I'm have  
trouble with netatalkd for Debian. Are there any other filesystem  
sharing systems that could work with OS X? I mean until Samba gets  
fixed.


Because of its continued use as a heating duct sealant, duct  
tape now surrounds us. Time and exposure to high temperatures slowly  
breaks duct tape down, and tiny particles drift into ducts where they  
are eventually carried into the air. And so, duct tape is like God.  
It's everywhere.

--The Duct Tape Book editor, Tony

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Re: [Samba] Broken Samba in OS X. Any Alternatives?

2005-06-04 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:51:44AM -0500, Kichigai Mentat wrote:
 We all know that in Mac OS X 10.4, and in the upgrade 10.4.1, Apple  
 managed to break Samba. Now, I am at a great loss for remote  
 filesystem mounting. Not only is Samba broken, but NFS is  
 questionable (I can never seem to get rid of that incorrect username/ 
 password error and retain read/write abilities). Also, I'm have  
 trouble with netatalkd for Debian. Are there any other filesystem  
 sharing systems that could work with OS X? I mean until Samba gets  
 fixed.

Is there a reason you can't just compile Samba source from samba.org
on OS X to fix the problem ?

Jeremy.
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