Re: [Samba] Error in documentation: Samba 3 By Example: Chapter 5 - Making Users Happy in re: Outlook
Josh Kelley wrote: On 12/19/05, Jonathan Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Configuration of MS Outlook to Relocate PST File Microsoft Outlook can store a Personal Folders file, generally known as a PST file. It is the nature of email storage that this file grows, at times quite rapidly. So that users' email is available to them at every workstation they may log onto, it is common practice in well-controlled sites to redirect the PST folder to the users' home directory. Follow these steps for each user who wishes to do this. A few more notes on PST file location: (Some or all of this may be beyond the scope of the Samba docs.) Microsoft doesn't officially support storing PSTs on network drives (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297019/), although it seems to be a pretty popular setup. In addition to manually moving PST files, you can set the default PST location for new accounts by following instructions at http://www.windowsitpro.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/48228/48228.html. This setting could presumably be done using NT4-style policies, but I haven't tried it. We found that disabling oplocks on PSTs cut down on some locking errors, and I've seen the suggestion from others on the mailing list as well: veto oplock files = /*.pst/*.PST/ 3.0.21 includes an oplock rewrite; maybe the above will no longer be necessary? The instructions that you provided for moving PST files don't work for PSTs that store IMAP account information. Those can be manually moved to network drives using a variation on your instructions: 1. Close Outlook. 2. From the control panel, launch the Mail icon 3. Click Email Accounts 4. Make a note of the location of the PST file(s). From this location, move the files to the desired location. 5. Back under Email Accounts, click Settings for the data file, and select the new location when Windows complains about the file missing. However, this breaks Outlook's Send/Receive button, so we quit doing it. I haven't figured out a fix for this. (From what I can tell, PSTs for IMAP accounts store message rules/filters related to that account, so they would be worth centralizing, even though the mail itself is on an IMAP server.) Josh Kelley I see the documentation has been updated. Many thanks to John H. Terpstra and the rest of the Samba team. --Jonathan Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Error in documentation: Samba 3 By Example: Chapter 5 - Making Users Happy in re: Outlook
On 12/19/05, Jonathan Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Configuration of MS Outlook to Relocate PST File Microsoft Outlook can store a Personal Folders file, generally known as a PST file. It is the nature of email storage that this file grows, at times quite rapidly. So that users' email is available to them at every workstation they may log onto, it is common practice in well-controlled sites to redirect the PST folder to the users' home directory. Follow these steps for each user who wishes to do this. A few more notes on PST file location: (Some or all of this may be beyond the scope of the Samba docs.) Microsoft doesn't officially support storing PSTs on network drives (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297019/), although it seems to be a pretty popular setup. In addition to manually moving PST files, you can set the default PST location for new accounts by following instructions at http://www.windowsitpro.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/48228/48228.html. This setting could presumably be done using NT4-style policies, but I haven't tried it. We found that disabling oplocks on PSTs cut down on some locking errors, and I've seen the suggestion from others on the mailing list as well: veto oplock files = /*.pst/*.PST/ 3.0.21 includes an oplock rewrite; maybe the above will no longer be necessary? The instructions that you provided for moving PST files don't work for PSTs that store IMAP account information. Those can be manually moved to network drives using a variation on your instructions: 1. Close Outlook. 2. From the control panel, launch the Mail icon 3. Click Email Accounts 4. Make a note of the location of the PST file(s). From this location, move the files to the desired location. 5. Back under Email Accounts, click Settings for the data file, and select the new location when Windows complains about the file missing. However, this breaks Outlook's Send/Receive button, so we quit doing it. I haven't figured out a fix for this. (From what I can tell, PSTs for IMAP accounts store message rules/filters related to that account, so they would be worth centralizing, even though the mail itself is on an IMAP server.) I also vote for this solution (and I use it myself) actually, I would add two corrections: 1) MS Outlook is not Outlook Express (many people don't distingush between them) 2) not Close Outlook, but make sure MS Outlook was started at least once, because Control Panel Mail managing things appears only after Outlook was started Josh Kelley -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Error in documentation: Samba 3 By Example: Chapter 5 - Making Users Happy in re: Outlook
On 12/19/05, Jonathan Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Configuration of MS Outlook to Relocate PST File Microsoft Outlook can store a Personal Folders file, generally known as a PST file. It is the nature of email storage that this file grows, at times quite rapidly. So that users' email is available to them at every workstation they may log onto, it is common practice in well-controlled sites to redirect the PST folder to the users' home directory. Follow these steps for each user who wishes to do this. A few more notes on PST file location: (Some or all of this may be beyond the scope of the Samba docs.) Microsoft doesn't officially support storing PSTs on network drives (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297019/), although it seems to be a pretty popular setup. In addition to manually moving PST files, you can set the default PST location for new accounts by following instructions at http://www.windowsitpro.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/48228/48228.html. This setting could presumably be done using NT4-style policies, but I haven't tried it. We found that disabling oplocks on PSTs cut down on some locking errors, and I've seen the suggestion from others on the mailing list as well: veto oplock files = /*.pst/*.PST/ 3.0.21 includes an oplock rewrite; maybe the above will no longer be necessary? The instructions that you provided for moving PST files don't work for PSTs that store IMAP account information. Those can be manually moved to network drives using a variation on your instructions: 1. Close Outlook. 2. From the control panel, launch the Mail icon 3. Click Email Accounts 4. Make a note of the location of the PST file(s). From this location, move the files to the desired location. 5. Back under Email Accounts, click Settings for the data file, and select the new location when Windows complains about the file missing. However, this breaks Outlook's Send/Receive button, so we quit doing it. I haven't figured out a fix for this. (From what I can tell, PSTs for IMAP accounts store message rules/filters related to that account, so they would be worth centralizing, even though the mail itself is on an IMAP server.) Josh Kelley -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Error in documentation: Samba 3 By Example: Chapter 5 - Making Users Happy in re: Outlook
Chapter 5 of Samba 3 By Example ( http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/happy.html ) states thusly: - Configuration of MS Outlook to Relocate PST File Microsoft Outlook can store a Personal Storage file, generally known as a PST file. It is the nature of email storage that this file grows, at times quite rapidly. So that users' email is available to them at every workstation they may log onto, it is common practice in well-controlled sites to redirect the PST folder to the users' home directory. Follow these steps for each user who wishes to do this. Note It is presumed that Outlook Express has been configured for use. Launch Outlook Express 6. Click Tools-Options-Maintenance-Store Folder-Change. Follow the on-screen prompts to relocate the PST file to the desired location. - First, it should be noted that the above documentation is confusing, as it first mentions Outlook then mentions Outlook Express. I recommend updating the documentation: Configuration of MS Outlook to Relocate PST File Microsoft Outlook can store a Personal Folders file, generally known as a PST file. It is the nature of email storage that this file grows, at times quite rapidly. So that users' email is available to them at every workstation they may log onto, it is common practice in well-controlled sites to redirect the PST folder to the users' home directory. Follow these steps for each user who wishes to do this. To redirect the Outlook PST file in Outlook 2003 (older versions of Outlook are slightly different), follow these steps: 1. Close Outlook. 2. From the control panel, launch the Mail icon 3. Click Email Accounts 4. Make a note of the location of the PST file(s). From this location, move the files to the desired location. 5. Add a new data file, selecting the PST file in the desired location. Give this entry (not the filename) a different name such as Personal Folders - on server 6. Close the Data Files window and click Email Accounts. 7. Select View or Change existing email accounts then click Next 8. Change the Mail Delivery Location to the new data file. 9. Go back to the Data Files window and delete the old data file entry. Note that you may have to remove and reinstall Outlook Address Book (Contacts) entries, otherwise the user may be unable to retrieve contacts when addressing a new email message. NOTE: Outlook Express store files are quite different from Outlook store files. Outlook Express store files can not be redirected to network shares (the options panel won't allow it), but they can be moved to folders outside the user's profile, or excluded from synchronization with the roaming profile. While it is possible to redirect the data stores by editing the registry, experience has shown that data corruption and loss of messages will result. Like Outlook store files, Outlook Express store files can become quite large, and when used with roaming profiles can result in excruciatingly long login and logout times while the stores are synchronized. For this reason, it is recommended not to use Outlook Express in a roaming profiles environment. To expand on the last note about Outlook Express -- using OE's tools (as described in the confusing documentation above) will allow you to change the location where the OE store files are kept. However, it will only permit you to change it to a local drive. This path is stored in the registry. I have attempted to change to a network path via the registry, which indeed does take, but I've run into problems. It seems that Outlook Express expects very fast response when reading these files. If there is any lag at all, such as you might find across a network, it assumes the files are unavailable and creates new, blank store files. Old messages are effectively lost, and cannot be retrieved without the use of third-party mailbox recovery tools. If you ask me, that's sloppy and irresponsible programming on Microsoft's part -- but then again, maybe it's intentional to force you to buy Outlook. -- --Jon Johnson Sutinen Consulting, Inc. www.sutinen.com (360) 270-9317 cell -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
