Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-07 Thread Eric Shubert

On 02/06/2011 06:30 PM, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:

Hi

On 7 February 2011 09:32, Eric Shuberte...@shubes.net  wrote:


Terry was asking about roaming profiles specifically, not a stock pdc.



My bad ; I had missed that part.

Having roaming profile these days is something you get to live without.

We had a user who installed iTunes on his machine and copied GB of
music. Logging-out would take 30+ minutes because it was transferring
each time the content of his My Documents back to the server.

JY


That's exactly the problem. By changing the stock MS configuration (via 
policies) to put MyDocuments on the server, this problem is remedied. 
When all of the appropriate folders are thus configured, saving settings 
to the server (part of the logoff process) takes 5 seconds or so. It's 
an amazing difference.


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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-07 Thread Terry Danter
 On 02/06/2011 06:30 PM, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:

 Hi

 On 7 February 2011 09:32, Eric Shubertejs at shubes.net  wrote:

 Terry was asking about roaming profiles specifically, not a stock pdc.


 My bad ; I had missed that part.

 Having roaming profile these days is something you get to live without.

 We had a user who installed iTunes on his machine and copied GB of
 music. Logging-out would take 30+ minutes because it was transferring
 each time the content of his My Documents back to the server.

 JY

 That's exactly the problem. By changing the stock MS configuration (via 
 policies) to put MyDocuments on the server, this problem is remedied. When 
 all of the appropriate folders are thus configured, saving settings to the 
 server (part of the logoff process) takes 5 seconds or so. It's an amazing 
 difference.

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Thanks for the input every one. I think the best plan as all ways is
to set up some test hard ware and take a look.
I did not like the idea of roaming profiles plus I would have a
mixture of clients win7 and xp. But I will give it a whirl out of
interest.
Thanks again
Terry
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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-06 Thread Eric Shubert

On 02/05/2011 01:57 PM, Terry Danter wrote:

I was just wondering how many people out there are using FreeBSD as a
pdc. I see a few guides on the net mostly followed by a load of posts
of problems people encounter. Is it like most things that once you
have done it once you can soon set up a machine at the drop of hat as
you encounter and remedy any problems. I have a few customers at the
moment one of who requires a pdc with roaming profiles. I use bsd and
samba all the time for normal file sharing and never have problems. I
try and avoid windows servers due to costs and licensing but a pdc
would be new for me.
Any opinions welcome

Thanks
Terry


I haven't used FreeBSD, but I have set up several PDCs. They work ok 
with default settings, however if users have a large amount of data 
associated with their account (in Application Data, My Documents, and/or 
Desktop folders for example), logging off/on can become terribly 
inefficient. This is because Windoze saves all of this local data to the 
server when the user logs off, taking a good bit of time (I've seen 20 
minutes or so), while putting a strain on both the network and server.


The solution to this problem is to change the default location for 
various folders to be on the server, so that the data doesn't need to be 
copied to the server during the logoff process. This is accomplished by 
creating a custom NTConfig.POL file in the netlogon directory which 
changes the location of these folders to reside on the server instead of 
the local HDD.


There a few wiki pages that explain this:
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Windows_Profiles
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Implementing_System_Policies_with_Samba
See also:
http://www.pcc-services.com/custom_poledit.html

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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-06 Thread Jean-Yves Avenard

 I haven't used FreeBSD, but I have set up several PDCs. They work ok with
 default settings, however if users have a large amount of data associated
 with their account (in Application Data, My Documents, and/or Desktop
 folders for example), logging off/on can become terribly inefficient. This
 is because Windoze saves all of this local data to the server when the user
 logs off, taking a good bit of time (I've seen 20 minutes or so), while
 putting a strain on both the network and server.

???

That would only be the case if you enabled roaming profiles ; which
isn't active by default either.

And this would be an either wether you use samba PDA or windows server.


 The solution to this problem is to change the default location for various
 folders to be on the server, so that the data doesn't need to be copied to
 the server during the logoff process. This is accomplished by creating a
 custom NTConfig.POL file in the netlogon directory which changes the
 location of these folders to reside on the server instead of the local HDD.

no the solution is to disable roaming profiles

http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba__Windows_Profiles

Don't have a logon path set.
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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-06 Thread Eric Shubert

On 02/06/2011 03:04 PM, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:


I haven't used FreeBSD, but I have set up several PDCs. They work ok with
default settings, however if users have a large amount of data associated
with their account (in Application Data, My Documents, and/or Desktop
folders for example), logging off/on can become terribly inefficient. This
is because Windoze saves all of this local data to the server when the user
logs off, taking a good bit of time (I've seen 20 minutes or so), while
putting a strain on both the network and server.


???

That would only be the case if you enabled roaming profiles ; which
isn't active by default either.


Terry was asking about roaming profiles specifically, not a stock pdc.


And this would be an either wether you use samba PDA or windows server.


Absolutely. This is part of the reason why many windows admins choose to 
not implement roaming profiles.




The solution to this problem is to change the default location for various
folders to be on the server, so that the data doesn't need to be copied to
the server during the logoff process. This is accomplished by creating a
custom NTConfig.POL file in the netlogon directory which changes the
location of these folders to reside on the server instead of the local HDD.


no the solution is to disable roaming profiles


That's no solution.


http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba__Windows_Profiles

Don't have a logon path set.


If that's your preference.

I was just trying to be helpful with getting roaming profiles working. 
They do work nicely when properly configured. It takes some doing though.


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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-06 Thread Jean-Yves Avenard
Hi

On 7 February 2011 09:32, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 Terry was asking about roaming profiles specifically, not a stock pdc.


My bad ; I had missed that part.

Having roaming profile these days is something you get to live without.

We had a user who installed iTunes on his machine and copied GB of
music. Logging-out would take 30+ minutes because it was transferring
each time the content of his My Documents back to the server.

JY
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[Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-05 Thread Terry Danter
I was just wondering how many people out there are using FreeBSD as a
pdc. I see a few guides on the net mostly followed by a load of posts
of problems people encounter. Is it like most things that once you
have done it once you can soon set up a machine at the drop of hat as
you encounter and remedy any problems. I have a few customers at the
moment one of who requires a pdc with roaming profiles. I use bsd and
samba all the time for normal file sharing and never have problems. I
try and avoid windows servers due to costs and licensing but a pdc
would be new for me.
Any opinions welcome

Thanks
Terry
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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-05 Thread Jean-Yves Avenard
Hi

On 6 February 2011 07:57, Terry Danter te...@bluelight.org.uk wrote:
 I was just wondering how many people out there are using FreeBSD as a
 pdc. I see a few guides on the net mostly followed by a load of posts
 of problems people encounter. Is it like most things that once you
 have done it once you can soon set up a machine at the drop of hat as
 you encounter and remedy any problems. I have a few customers at the
 moment one of who requires a pdc with roaming profiles. I use bsd and
 samba all the time for normal file sharing and never have problems. I
 try and avoid windows servers due to costs and licensing but a pdc
 would be new for me.
 Any opinions welcome

I used Samba as a PDC on FreeBSD for many years without problems.
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Re: [Samba] Freebsd pdc

2011-02-05 Thread tms3







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I was just wondering how many people out there are using FreeBSD as a
pdc.

Yep. Built lots of them. With ldap backends.

I see a few guides on the net mostly followed by a load of posts


of problems people encounter. Is it like most things that once you
have done it once you can soon set up a machine at the drop of hat as
you encounter and remedy any problems. I have a few customers at the
moment one of who requires a pdc with roaming profiles. I use bsd and
samba all the time for normal file sharing and never have problems. I
try and avoid windows servers due to costs and licensing but a pdc
would be new for me.
Any opinions welcome

Thanks
Terry
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