Re: [Samba] Fwd: Windows 7 problems
-Message d'origine- De : samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] De la part de Cain, Marc Envoyé : mardi 9 novembre 2010 21:34 À : samba@lists.samba.org Objet : [Samba] Fwd: Windows 7 problems On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:29 AM, henri wrote: I have a couple of questions related to Windows 7 : - opening a domain session on the Win7 client takes a long time. At least 40 seconds, while there is no delay on XP client. Is it a kown problem ? A bug ? What can be done to avoid such a delay ? There are a least two timeouts that I've found that can affect domain logons -- Roaming profile logon timeout: When a user with a roaming profile attempts to logon to a Samba domain Windows will display the Welcome screen for 30 seconds before enabling the user's desktop. This bug does not affect Active Directory logons. Setting the GPO below to 0 seconds will work around this timeout. \\Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Set maximum wait time for the network if a user has a roaming user profile or remote home directory Set to: 0 -- Synchronous Logon script timeout: When the local Computer GPO is set to Run logon scripts synchronously Windows 7 displays the Welcome screen for 30 seconds before enabling the user's desktop. NOTE: this bug may only be extant in Windows 7 Professional, not Enterprise or may have been addressed in service pack. Creating the following REG_DWORD registry key will work around this bug: \\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \Policies\System\DelayedDesktopSwitchTimeout Set to: 0001 There is also the solid color background bug (again, it may have since been addressed in a service pack): Change the background color to any .jpg image. Thanks for that. After some tests I got it work. - in smb.conf , the %a value for Windows 7 is Vista , right ? Don't know. The %a switch hasn't worked in our shop for some time. Windows 7 will tag the profile folder listed with a .V2 extension or will expect a .V2 extension. I was asking for the %a substitution in order to call the right script file at logon . For me , logon%a.cmd is substitued by logonVista.cmd . I assume it's ok. - NT Default Profile no longer works with Windows 7 . I guess it is normal , but is there a workaround ? Default User profiles do work with Windows 7 and Samba. See the article for Windows 7 default profile details: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973289 Thanks for the link. I will try the procedure. - Same question for NT policies : I assume it is normal that windows 7 does not support NTconfig.pol files any longer. Nevertheless, is there a way to get the same features ? For these kind of functionality (having some control of user profiles on Win7 clients) , is AD the only and inescapable solution ? We create a local group policy that we copy from the server via logon script at logon time. Works great for bot WinXP and Windows 7. How do you generate the policy file and how do you copy it from server to client via logon script ? XP was automaticaly loading ntconfig.pol (generated by the old poledit.exe) in the netlogon directory , but what about Win 7 ? Thanks for your help. Henri For my needs (200 domain users), NT domain was a sufficient solution and worked perfectly with XP. I am affraid that with Windows 7, I will have to move to something much more and unnecessarily complex :-( . Thanks in advance for your help. Henri -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Fwd: Windows 7 problems
On 10/11/2010 15:03, henri wrote: -Message d'origine- De : samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] De la part de Cain, Marc Envoyé : mardi 9 novembre 2010 21:34 À : samba@lists.samba.org Objet : [Samba] Fwd: Windows 7 problems On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:29 AM, henri wrote: I have a couple of questions related to Windows 7 : - opening a domain session on the Win7 client takes a long time. At least 40 seconds, while there is no delay on XP client. Is it a kown problem ? A bug ? What can be done to avoid such a delay ? There are a least two timeouts that I've found that can affect domain logons -- Roaming profile logon timeout: When a user with a roaming profile attempts to logon to a Samba domain Windows will display the Welcome screen for 30 seconds before enabling the user's desktop. This bug does not affect Active Directory logons. Setting the GPO below to 0 seconds will work around this timeout. \\Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Set maximum wait time for the network if a user has a roaming user profile or remote home directory Set to: 0 -- Synchronous Logon script timeout: When the local Computer GPO is set to Run logon scripts synchronously Windows 7 displays the Welcome screen for 30 seconds before enabling the user's desktop. NOTE: this bug may only be extant in Windows 7 Professional, not Enterprise or may have been addressed in service pack. Creating the following REG_DWORD registry key will work around this bug: \\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \Policies\System\DelayedDesktopSwitchTimeout Set to: 0001 There is also the solid color background bug (again, it may have since been addressed in a service pack): Change the background color to any .jpg image. Thanks for that. After some tests I got it work. - in smb.conf , the %a value for Windows 7 is Vista , right ? Don't know. The %a switch hasn't worked in our shop for some time. Windows 7 will tag the profile folder listed with a .V2 extension or will expect a .V2 extension. I was asking for the %a substitution in order to call the right script file at logon . For me , logon%a.cmd is substitued by logonVista.cmd . I assume it's ok. - NT Default Profile no longer works with Windows 7 . I guess it is normal , but is there a workaround ? Default User profiles do work with Windows 7 and Samba. See the article for Windows 7 default profile details: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973289 Thanks for the link. I will try the procedure. - Same question for NT policies : I assume it is normal that windows 7 does not support NTconfig.pol files any longer. Nevertheless, is there a way to get the same features ? For these kind of functionality (having some control of user profiles on Win7 clients) , is AD the only and inescapable solution ? We create a local group policy that we copy from the server via logon script at logon time. Works great for bot WinXP and Windows 7. How do you generate the policy file and how do you copy it from server to client via logon script ? XP was automaticaly loading ntconfig.pol (generated by the old poledit.exe) in the netlogon directory , but what about Win 7 ? Henri, Yeah, since Vista ntconfig.pol does not work. We have a tool that translates contents of ntconfig.pol (which essentially is a registry hive) into local group policy - it feteches the .pol file from the netlogon share and does the translation on the fly. I have not fully tested it on windows 7 (since we moved to samba4) but it worked fine on Windows XP. You are more than welcome to have it. Note that the script only supports machine policy. If you after proper group policy you should consider samba4 Regrds Luk Thanks for your help. Henri For my needs (200 domain users), NT domain was a sufficient solution and worked perfectly with XP. I am affraid that with Windows 7, I will have to move to something much more and unnecessarily complex :-( . Thanks in advance for your help. Henri -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
[Samba] Fwd: Windows 7 problems
On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:29 AM, henri wrote: Hi, I have upgraded to Samba 3.5.6 for Windows 7 Pro compatibility. I am in a test phase to evaluate the behavior of Windows 7 in a Samba PDC environment. I have one Samba server as a PDC with tdbsam backend (no LDAP at all), and I applied the reg and patch as described in the wiki. I have a couple of questions related to Windows 7 : - opening a domain session on the Win7 client takes a long time. At least 40 seconds, while there is no delay on XP client. Is it a kown problem ? A bug ? What can be done to avoid such a delay ? There are a least two timeouts that I've found that can affect domain logons -- Roaming profile logon timeout: When a user with a roaming profile attempts to logon to a Samba domain Windows will display the Welcome screen for 30 seconds before enabling the user's desktop. This bug does not affect Active Directory logons. Setting the GPO below to 0 seconds will work around this timeout. \\Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Set maximum wait time for the network if a user has a roaming user profile or remote home directory Set to: 0 -- Synchronous Logon script timeout: When the local Computer GPO is set to Run logon scripts synchronously Windows 7 displays the Welcome screen for 30 seconds before enabling the user's desktop. NOTE: this bug may only be extant in Windows 7 Professional, not Enterprise or may have been addressed in service pack. Creating the following REG_DWORD registry key will work around this bug: \\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\DelayedDesktopSwitchTimeout Set to: 0001 There is also the solid color background bug (again, it may have since been addressed in a service pack): Change the background color to any .jpg image. - in smb.conf , the %a value for Windows 7 is Vista , right ? Don't know. The %a switch hasn't worked in our shop for some time. Windows 7 will tag the profile folder listed with a .V2 extension or will expect a .V2 extension. - NT Default Profile no longer works with Windows 7 . I guess it is normal , but is there a workaround ? Default User profiles do work with Windows 7 and Samba. See the article for Windows 7 default profile details: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973289 - Same question for NT policies : I assume it is normal that windows 7 does not support NTconfig.pol files any longer. Nevertheless, is there a way to get the same features ? For these kind of functionality (having some control of user profiles on Win7 clients) , is AD the only and inescapable solution ? We create a local group policy that we copy from the server via logon script at logon time. Works great for bot WinXP and Windows 7. For my needs (200 domain users), NT domain was a sufficient solution and worked perfectly with XP. I am affraid that with Windows 7, I will have to move to something much more and unnecessarily complex :-( . Thanks in advance for your help. Henri -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
