Re: Any filesystem for Samba shares? (Was: Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume)

2007-09-10 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
2007/8/31, Thomas Flaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 13:34 schrieb Nicolas Dorfsman:
> > Brr.  What a strange idea to network-share a network mount !
> > How could you justify such a buggy way of build your IT architecture ?
> The background of this solution was explained in:
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1]
> I know that a better solution would be:
> * not to purchase blackboxes, which are also known as NAS,
> * and to have only fast and up-to-date servers as stanby systems.

Sure.
The best would be to put Samba AND NFS shares on the same server.
I'm sure you can't for historical reason...
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Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume

2007-09-03 Thread Yoshikuni . Yanagiya

Nicolas Dorfsman wrote:


2007/8/29, simo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:58 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I want to use Samba with ZFS volume, although I know 3.0.25c dose not

work with ZFS volume.

And I found modules/vfs_zfsacl.c on Samba-3.0.26.

(

http://viewcvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/branches/SAMBA_3_0_26/source/modules/

)

But I can't find samba-3.0.26.tar.gz on samba.org.


After 3.0.25 we decided to change the minor release number because of

the amount of changes and the change in license (GPLv2->GPLv3), so the

next release, which correspond to the former 3.0.26 code base, is now

3.2.0 and will be released eventually before the end of the year.


 I did use samba 3.0.25c with vfs_zfsacl module downloaded from 3.2.0 branch.

 It seems to work perfectly.

Nicolas


thanks Simo
thanks Nicolas

Nicolas, I learned on this mailing list, that not without coding.

For References see:
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Did you code it?

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Re: Any filesystem for Samba shares? (Was: Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume)

2007-08-31 Thread Thomas Flaig
Am Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 13:34 schrieb Nicolas Dorfsman:
> > > Samba generally will work with any filesystem, the only condition
> > > is that it has to be posix compatible.
> > Do you really mean any filesystem or only any local filesystem?
> > I thought that nfs-filsystems should be a posix compatible
> > filesystem. Or is nfs not posix compatible?
> Brr.  What a strange idea to network-share a network mount !
> How could you justify such a buggy way of build your IT architecture ?
The background of this solution was explained in:
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1]
I know that a better solution would be:
* not to purchase blackboxes, which are also known as NAS, 
* and to have only fast and up-to-date servers as stanby systems.

But on the other hand there are also other places with such 
configurations.

Thomas
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Re: Any filesystem for Samba shares? (Was: Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume)

2007-08-30 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
2007/8/30, Thomas Flaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 19:45 schrieb simo:
> > On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:58 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I want to use Samba with ZFS volume, although I know 3.0.25c dose not
> > > work with ZFS volume.
> > Samba generally will work with any filesystem, the only condition is
> > that it has to be posix compatible.
> Do you really mean any filesystem or only any local filesystem?
>
> I thought that nfs-filsystems should be a posix compatible filesystem. Or
> is nfs not posix compatible?

Brr.  What a strange idea to network-share a network mount !

How could you justify such a buggy way of build your IT architecture ?

I'm sure it may work as you expect...and I'm pretty sure it should bug
as I expect with few hope to debug !

Nicolas

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Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume

2007-08-30 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
2007/8/29, Peter Baumgartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 8/29/07, Nicolas Dorfsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   I did use samba 3.0.25c with vfs_zfsacl module downloaded from 3.2.0 
> > branch.
> >   It seems to work perfectly.
> >
>
> Nicolas, did you need to rebuild Samba or can that module be
> integrated into the existing solaris binary?

You just need to build vfs module and install it in lib/vfs/

Nicolas
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Re: Any filesystem for Samba shares? (Was: Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume)

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:05:02AM +0200, Thomas Flaig wrote:

> > Samba generally will work with any filesystem, the only condition is
> > that it has to be posix compatible.
> Do you really mean any filesystem or only any local filesystem?

Any file system that is posix compatible and *works*.

> I thought that nfs-filsystems should be a posix compatible filesystem. Or 
> is nfs not posix compatible?

I can't really speculate about Posix compatibility of NFS,
this probably very much depends on the specific
implementation. The problem with NFS is that the
implementations just suck. For example yesterday I heard a
specific implementation pretty quickly locks up hard when
you run Tridge's pingpong test (a test doing nothing but
fcntl locks with intermixed reads and writes), even as a
normal user. Samba has no way to deal with this kind of
deficiency.

Yes, in theory it should work, but there are so many
problems that at least I just refuse to look into
them. Others from the Samba Team I talked to feel very
similar. And for me, that's a pretty good definition of "not
supported".

Volker


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Any filesystem for Samba shares? (Was: Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume)

2007-08-30 Thread Thomas Flaig
Hello,
Am Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 19:45 schrieb simo:
> On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:58 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I want to use Samba with ZFS volume, although I know 3.0.25c dose not
> > work with ZFS volume.
> Samba generally will work with any filesystem, the only condition is
> that it has to be posix compatible.
Do you really mean any filesystem or only any local filesystem?

I thought that nfs-filsystems should be a posix compatible filesystem. Or 
is nfs not posix compatible?

Last week I have learned on this mailing list, that it is not always a 
good idea to have samba shares on nfs-filesystems.
(Volker Lendecke even wrote on this list that this is not supported).

For References see:
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
and the answers to these mails on this mailing list.

Sure, if we add 
| kernel oplocks = no
to the global part of our smb.conf file, sharing smb-shares on 
nfs-filesystems seems to work.

Thomas
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Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume

2007-08-29 Thread Peter Baumgartner
On 8/29/07, Nicolas Dorfsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I did use samba 3.0.25c with vfs_zfsacl module downloaded from 3.2.0 branch.
>   It seems to work perfectly.
>

Nicolas, did you need to rebuild Samba or can that module be
integrated into the existing solaris binary?
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Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume

2007-08-29 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
2007/8/29, simo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:58 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to use Samba with ZFS volume, although I know 3.0.25c dose not
> > work with ZFS volume.
>
> > And I found modules/vfs_zfsacl.c on Samba-3.0.26.
> > (
> > http://viewcvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/branches/SAMBA_3_0_26/source/modules/
> > )
> > But I can't find samba-3.0.26.tar.gz on samba.org.
>
> After 3.0.25 we decided to change the minor release number because of
> the amount of changes and the change in license (GPLv2->GPLv3), so the
> next release, which correspond to the former 3.0.26 code base, is now
> 3.2.0 and will be released eventually before the end of the year.

  I did use samba 3.0.25c with vfs_zfsacl module downloaded from 3.2.0 branch.
  It seems to work perfectly.

Nicolas
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Re: [Samba] How to use ZFS volume

2007-08-29 Thread simo
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:58 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to use Samba with ZFS volume, although I know 3.0.25c dose not
> work with ZFS volume.

Samba generally will work with any filesystem, the only condition is
that it has to be posix compatible.
WIth ZFS almost everything will work except native ZFS ACLs, that's what
the vfs_zfsacl module is for.

> And I found modules/vfs_zfsacl.c on Samba-3.0.26.
> (
> http://viewcvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/branches/SAMBA_3_0_26/source/modules/
> )
> But I can't find samba-3.0.26.tar.gz on samba.org.

After 3.0.25 we decided to change the minor release number because of
the amount of changes and the change in license (GPLv2->GPLv3), so the
next release, which correspond to the former 3.0.26 code base, is now
3.2.0 and will be released eventually before the end of the year.

Simo.

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[Samba] How to use ZFS volume

2007-08-29 Thread Yoshikuni . Yanagiya

Hi,

I want to use Samba with ZFS volume, although I know 3.0.25c dose not
work with ZFS volume.
And I found modules/vfs_zfsacl.c on Samba-3.0.26.
(
http://viewcvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/branches/SAMBA_3_0_26/source/modules/
)
But I can't find samba-3.0.26.tar.gz on samba.org.
So, I have two question.

1. It is possible to download samba-3.0.26.tar.gz (or something another
which can use with ZFS volume) ?
2. Or, Is there any schedule of release day, if there is nothing which
can use with ZFS volume?

Please help me,thanks very much.

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