Re: [Samba] Network browsing in S4

2013-08-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Hello Greg,

Am 12.08.2013 22:32, schrieb Gregory Sloop:

So, if I understand things correctly, NMBD or network browsing isn't
functional under S4 yet. [At least I don't believe it was in 4.03 -
and I don't think that's changed.]


Currently Samba still doesn't support network neighbourhood.






I have some cases where I need accurate NetBIOS name resolution, [and
perhaps Network browsing services.]

What is the best way of handling this?
Is this going to be supported? [or already is with something newer than
4.03]


There is a way to start nmbd on a Samba 4 DC manually with doing some 
special settings in smb.conf. Andrew told me that secret some time ago. 
But it's nothing that is recommended and not supported. But my 
experiences with it is, that the browsing list is always much smaller 
than it should. So it's better not to use this workaround.





Regards,
Marc
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Re: [Samba] Network browsing in S4

2013-08-12 Thread Mike
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote:

 So, if I understand things correctly, NMBD or network browsing isn't
 functional under S4 yet. [At least I don't believe it was in 4.03 -
 and I don't think that's changed.]

 I have some cases where I need accurate NetBIOS name resolution, [and
 perhaps Network browsing services.]



 If not, should I run nmbd on it's own outside the the S4 servers -
 that's something perfectly easy for me to do.



I could be mistaken (definitely not an expert) but I believe NetBIOS
function is defaulted to On regarding samba shares under the file server
services; but, as far as the AD DC folders relating to profiles, GPO's, and
other domain user content, I think you're correct -- network browsing is
not functional at this time.

From Samba 4.0.8 man samba:

disable netbios (G)

   Enabling this parameter will disable netbios support in Samba.
Netbios is the only available form of browsing in all windows versions
except
   for 2000 and XP.

   Note
   Clients that only support netbios won't be able to see your
samba server when netbios support is disabled.
   Default: disable netbios = no
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Re: [Samba] Network browsing in S4

2013-08-12 Thread Gregory Sloop

MM Am 12.08.2013 22:32, schrieb Gregory Sloop:
 So, if I understand things correctly, NMBD or network browsing isn't
 functional under S4 yet. [At least I don't believe it was in 4.03 -
 and I don't think that's changed.]

MM Currently Samba still doesn't support network neighbourhood.

Is nmbd support planned, and if so, when? [If you know...]



 I have some cases where I need accurate NetBIOS name resolution, [and
 perhaps Network browsing services.]

 What is the best way of handling this?
 Is this going to be supported? [or already is with something newer than
 4.03]

MM There is a way to start nmbd on a Samba 4 DC manually with doing some 
MM special settings in smb.conf. Andrew told me that secret some time ago.
MM But it's nothing that is recommended and not supported. But my 
MM experiences with it is, that the browsing list is always much smaller 
MM than it should. So it's better not to use this workaround.

So, we'll assume that nmbd doesn't work properly on an S4 AD. Can I
run nmbd alone, on an independent box? (I'd guess not.)

Or should I run an S3 server as a member of the AD also running nmbd?
[This instance won't do any file sharing, as that will all happen on
the two S4 servers.]

If I run an S3 member, can anyone give me an estimated memory
footprint? [Really rough is fine.]

-Greg



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Re: [Samba] Network browsing in S4

2013-08-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Am 12.08.2013 23:28, schrieb Gregory Sloop:

So, we'll assume that nmbd doesn't work properly on an S4 AD. Can I
run nmbd alone, on an independent box? (I'd guess not.)

Or should I run an S3 server as a member of the AD also running nmbd?
[This instance won't do any file sharing, as that will all happen on
the two S4 servers.]

If I run an S3 member, can anyone give me an estimated memory
footprint? [Really rough is fine.]


The domain master browser must be on the DC with the PDC emulator FSMO 
role: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801/en


So you can't run it on a s3 member server, because you need an AD DC for 
the FSMO stuff.


So currently you can't have network neighbourhood on a s4 DC.

I know that the developers have this on their list. But I don't know if 
theres already a plan when it'll be included.


Here first some users missed the network neighbourhood browsing. 
Meanwhile they had learned, that it's much easier to direclty connect 
via \\servername. Do you have a special need for it?



Regards,
Marc

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