Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-06 Thread Kurt Pfeifle
(Re-posting because I was too stupid to change $subject as needed)

On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:29:23 -0500
From: Don Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture
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[...]
 The catch is that it was written around LPRng.   A couple times now, 
 I have attempted to modify (update) the system to use CUPS -- but 
 I've always been stymied by the lack of any functions to move jobs 
 from one queue to another.

Uuhmmm what makes you think that you can't move jobs from one
queue to another when using CUPS? What are your exact requirements
when moving jobs?

Cheers,
Kurt
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[Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread David Sonenberg
My company would like to start capturing printing costs.  Is there a way
to configure the printing interface to prompt users for a billing code?
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Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread simo
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 10:42 -0400, David Sonenberg wrote:
 My company would like to start capturing printing costs.  Is there a way
 to configure the printing interface to prompt users for a billing code?

The best thing is to assign a username/password that identify a user and
then use a system like pykota[1]+cups to bill per user.

Prompting a user requires some binary running on the client plus some
way to communicate to this binary from the server when it receives a
print request (another method is an authorization system through a web
interface that you must go through before any print). This makes up a
complex system to maintain and cumbersome to use.

Simo.


[1]: http://www.pykota.com/


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Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread Brian Cowan
Well, if you're truly a glutton for punishment, you could have 
billing-code-specific print queues.


David Sonenberg wrote:

Thanks, but that really won't help.  We need to be able to link each
printing job to a specific billing code, and user.  Each user needs to
be able to work on multiple billing codes.

simo wrote:
  

On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 10:42 -0400, David Sonenberg wrote:


My company would like to start capturing printing costs.  Is there a way
to configure the printing interface to prompt users for a billing code?
  

The best thing is to assign a username/password that identify a user and
then use a system like pykota[1]+cups to bill per user.

Prompting a user requires some binary running on the client plus some
way to communicate to this binary from the server when it receives a
print request (another method is an authorization system through a web
interface that you must go through before any print). This makes up a
complex system to maintain and cumbersome to use.

Simo.


[1]: http://www.pykota.com/





  


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Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread Jerome Alet
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:42:16AM -0400, David Sonenberg wrote:
 My company would like to start capturing printing costs.  Is there a way
 to configure the printing interface to prompt users for a billing code?

You could use PyKota + PyKotIcon available from http://www.pykota.com
to do this.

Both are available under the terms of the GNU General Public License
of the Free Software Foundation.

PyKota runs on the print server side. It manages print accounting and
printing quotas.

PyKotIcon is a client side helper with which you can ask for any
information to the end user, for example a billing code, whenever
a print job passes through PyKota. This billing code can then be
used by PyKota to overwrite the one optionally present in the job
ticket (if you printed for example with 'lp -o job-billing=YourCode')

bye

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Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread Jerome Alet
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 06:03:34PM +0200, Jerome Alet wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:42:16AM -0400, David Sonenberg wrote:
  My company would like to start capturing printing costs.  Is there a way
  to configure the printing interface to prompt users for a billing code?
 
 You could use PyKota + PyKotIcon available from http://www.pykota.com
 to do this.

Sorry, I forgot the following disclaimer :

Since I wrote both of these software, my advice about them
 is probably far from being impartial.
 
hth anyway 

Jerome Alet
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Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread Jerome Alet
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:29:23AM -0500, Don Meyer wrote:
 
 The catch is that it was written around LPRng.   A couple times now, 
 I have attempted to modify (update) the system to use CUPS -- but 
 I've always been stymied by the lack of any functions to move jobs 
 from one queue to another.

Maybe this could be the solution :

http://iremia.univ-reunion.fr/intranet/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JKota

Disclaimer : I'm NOT related in any way to this project.

bye

Jerome Alet
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Re: [Samba] Print Cost Capture

2006-07-05 Thread mallapadi niranjan

Hi

You can also try a software called PAPERCUT , which i am using
it sits perfectly with SAMBA with OPENLDAP and the billing is also quite
nice.
It's available in both Linux and windows version

Please check it , hope it suites you.

Regards
Niranjan

On 7/5/06, Jerome Alet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:29:23AM -0500, Don Meyer wrote:

 The catch is that it was written around LPRng.   A couple times now,
 I have attempted to modify (update) the system to use CUPS -- but
 I've always been stymied by the lack of any functions to move jobs
 from one queue to another.

Maybe this could be the solution :

http://iremia.univ-reunion.fr/intranet/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JKota

Disclaimer : I'm NOT related in any way to this project.

bye

Jerome Alet
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