[Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Powell
I have added an HP Deskjet 600 to my debian etch system, using CUPS.  It is 
working fine.

I would like to set it up so that I can occassionally print to it from a 
Windows 9x machine.  This is where I seem to be having trouble.

I consulted the HOW-TO docs on the samba site, but they are quite detailed
and confusing (for me).  

I don't want to do anything that will cause the printer to work for the Win9x
machine, but stop working properly on the debian machine.  I am probably 
wrong, but what little I did understand of the HOW-TO gave me the 
impression that it might indeed cause problems.

I really need something that is more like A Dummy's Guide to SAMBA and 
Print Shares.  The Win9x machine can currently see/access the other shares
defined on the debian box.  Is there an dummy's way to set the printer 
share up so that my Win9x machine can see it?

Thanks!

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Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Powell
Thanks to everyone for their assistance!  This turned out to be the final 
hurdle.  The MS link is no longer, but as luck would have it, I had a copy of 
the patch.  I installed it, and Windows was able to find the printer!

Thanks again!

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:54:05 -0400
Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 21 June 2007, Michael Powell wrote:
  Windows still can't find the printer
 
 Win9x needs a patch to be able to print via IPP, see:
 
 http://www.digitalissues.co.uk/html/os/ms/ipp.html#6
 
 Once the patch is installed then you can add the printer (a manual process - 
 it wont show up in a browse list unless you involve Samba in the process).
 
 Chris
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Re: Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-21 Thread Dale Schroeder

Also--

Location /printers
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From 192.168.2.*

AuthType None
/Location

Dale


Gary Dale wrote:

Not an expert on CUPS either, but my server setup has
Location /
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From 192.168.2.*
/Location

where my local network is in the 192.168.2 subnet.

I also have a
Port 631
line in the .conf file. I don't know if it's necessary but you could 
try adding it.


And after making the changes, be sure to restart CUPS.


Michael Powell wrote:

Looking at localhost:631, it looks like it should be all set up.  Still,
I went ahead and changed the conf file.  The values with the '#' are 
what it
said, and the uncommented values are what I set it to.  I would think 
that all
would be the least permissive, but Windows still thinks the printer 
is offline.


I also checked the printers.conf, and the printer in question is set 
as Share

Yes.

# Enable printer sharing and shared printers.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
#BrowseAllow @LOCAL
#BrowseAddress @LOCAL
BrowseAllow all
BrowseAddress all
DefaultAuthType Basic
Location /
  # Allow shared printing...
  Order allow,deny
#  Allow @LOCAL
  Allow all
/Location


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:02:14 -0400
Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
It's very important that your CUPS configuration allows printing 
from your local network. If not, Windows won't see it. Check your 
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure it allows printing from other than 
localhost.



Michael Powell wrote:
   

Gary,
Thanks!  I think there must be slightly more to it, though.  If I give
it that address (or anything like it), Win98 reports that the 
printer is offline  that I can install it but can't print to it 
until it returns
online.  Since it is online, that tells me something is not quite 
right.


If I type that address into a web browser on the Windows machine, 
it does show up.  But there is something about it that the Windows 
print

manager does not like.

I tried it as you have it typed below, as well as:
\\server:631\printers\printername

Windows does not like either one.


On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:33 -0400
Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
You don't need Samba to print. As long as you set up your CUPS 
configuration to allow other local addresses to print to the 
server, you can print to it from windows using 
http://servername:631/printers/printername, where you replace 
servername and pritnername with the appropriate values. 
servername can also be an IP address.


If this works, you can also (but don't have to) set up the printer 
to be shared via Samba by adding a section to your Samba 
configuration. I recommend that you use SWAT for this - it makes 
it easy.

   
  

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Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-21 Thread Michael Powell
Here is my whole cupsd.conf, as it stands now.  I've restarted CUPS, and 
Windows still can't find the printer (it does find a pdf-printer, though).

# Show general information in error_log.
LogLevel info
SystemGroup lpadmin
# Allow remote access
Port 631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
# Enable printer sharing and shared printers.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
#BrowseAllow @LOCAL
#BrowseAddress @LOCAL
BrowseAllow From 127.0.0.1
BrowseAllow From 192.168.0.*
BrowseAddress 255.255.255.0:631
DefaultAuthType Basic
Location /
  # Allow shared printing...
  Order deny,allow
#  Allow @LOCAL
  Deny From All
  Allow From 127.0.0.1
  Allow From 192.168.0.*  
  AuthType None
/Location
Location /printers
  # Allow shared printing...
  Order deny,allow
  Deny From All
  Allow From 127.0.0.1
  Allow From 192.168.0.*
  AuthType None
/Location
Location /admin
  Encryption Required
  # Restrict access to the admin pages...
  Order allow,deny
  Allow localhost
/Location
Location /admin/conf
  AuthType Basic
  Require user @SYSTEM
  # Restrict access to the configuration files...
  Order allow,deny
  Allow localhost
/Location
Policy default
  Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs 
Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription 
Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job 
Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  /Limit
  Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Set-Printer-Attributes Enable-Printer 
Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs 
Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer 
Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job Schedule-Job-After 
CUPS-Add-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Class CUPS-Delete-Class 
CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs CUPS-Set-Default
AuthType Basic
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  /Limit
  Limit CUPS-Authenticate-Job
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  /Limit
  # Only the owner or an administrator can cancel a job...
  Limit Cancel-Job
Order deny,allow
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
  /Limit
  Limit All
Order deny,allow
  /Limit
/Policy
Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap


On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:47:08 -0500
Dale Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also--
 
 Location /printers
 Order Deny,Allow
 Deny From All
 Allow From 127.0.0.1
 Allow From 192.168.2.*
 
 AuthType None
 /Location
 
 Dale
 
 
 Gary Dale wrote:
  Not an expert on CUPS either, but my server setup has
  Location /
  Order Deny,Allow
  Deny From All
  Allow From 127.0.0.1
  Allow From 192.168.2.*
  /Location
 
  where my local network is in the 192.168.2 subnet.
 
  I also have a
  Port 631
  line in the .conf file. I don't know if it's necessary but you could 
  try adding it.
 
  And after making the changes, be sure to restart CUPS.
 
 
  Michael Powell wrote:
  Looking at localhost:631, it looks like it should be all set up.  Still,
  I went ahead and changed the conf file.  The values with the '#' are 
  what it
  said, and the uncommented values are what I set it to.  I would think 
  that all
  would be the least permissive, but Windows still thinks the printer 
  is offline.
 
  I also checked the printers.conf, and the printer in question is set 
  as Share
  Yes.
 
  # Enable printer sharing and shared printers.
  Browsing On
  BrowseOrder allow,deny
  #BrowseAllow @LOCAL
  #BrowseAddress @LOCAL
  BrowseAllow all
  BrowseAddress all
  DefaultAuthType Basic
  Location /
# Allow shared printing...
Order allow,deny
  #  Allow @LOCAL
Allow all
  /Location
 
 
  On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:02:14 -0400
  Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  It's very important that your CUPS configuration allows printing 
  from your local network. If not, Windows won't see it. Check your 
  /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure it allows printing from other than 
  localhost.
 
 
  Michael Powell wrote:
 
  Gary,
  Thanks!  I think there must be slightly more to it, though.  If I give
  it that address (or anything like it), Win98 reports that the 
  printer is offline  that I can install it but can't print to it 
  until it returns
  online.  Since it is online, that tells me something is not quite 
  right.
 
  If I type that address into a web browser on the Windows machine, 
  it does show up.  But there is something about it that the Windows 
  print
  manager does not like.
 
  I tried it as you have it typed below, as well as:
  \\server:631\printers\printername
 
  Windows does not like either one.
 
 
  On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:33 -0400
  Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  You don't need Samba to print. As long as you set up your CUPS 
  configuration to allow other local addresses to print to the 
  server, you can print to it from windows using 
  http://servername:631/printers/printername, where you replace 
  servername and pritnername with the appropriate values. 
  

Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-21 Thread Chris Smith
On Thursday 21 June 2007, Michael Powell wrote:
 Windows still can't find the printer

Win9x needs a patch to be able to print via IPP, see:

http://www.digitalissues.co.uk/html/os/ms/ipp.html#6

Once the patch is installed then you can add the printer (a manual process - 
it wont show up in a browse list unless you involve Samba in the process).

Chris
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Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-20 Thread Gary Dale
It's very important that your CUPS configuration allows printing from 
your local network. If not, Windows won't see it. Check your 
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure it allows printing from other than 
localhost.



Michael Powell wrote:

Gary,
Thanks!  I think there must be slightly more to it, though.  If I give
it that address (or anything like it), Win98 reports that the printer is 
offline  that I can install it but can't print to it until it returns
online.  Since it is online, that tells me something is not quite 
right.


If I type that address into a web browser on the Windows machine, it 
does show up.  But there is something about it that the Windows print

manager does not like.

I tried it as you have it typed below, as well as:
\\server:631\printers\printername

Windows does not like either one.


On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:33 -0400
Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
You don't need Samba to print. As long as you set up your CUPS 
configuration to allow other local addresses to print to the server, you 
can print to it from windows using 
http://servername:631/printers/printername, where you replace 
servername and pritnername with the appropriate values. servername 
can also be an IP address.


If this works, you can also (but don't have to) set up the printer to be 
shared via Samba by adding a section to your Samba configuration. I 
recommend that you use SWAT for this - it makes it easy.



  
  
  

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Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-20 Thread Gary Dale

Not an expert on CUPS either, but my server setup has
Location /
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From 192.168.2.*
/Location

where my local network is in the 192.168.2 subnet.

I also have a
Port 631
line in the .conf file. I don't know if it's necessary but you could try 
adding it.


And after making the changes, be sure to restart CUPS.


Michael Powell wrote:

Looking at localhost:631, it looks like it should be all set up.  Still,
I went ahead and changed the conf file.  The values with the '#' are what it
said, and the uncommented values are what I set it to.  I would think that all
would be the least permissive, but Windows still thinks the printer is offline.

I also checked the printers.conf, and the printer in question is set as Share
Yes.

# Enable printer sharing and shared printers.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
#BrowseAllow @LOCAL
#BrowseAddress @LOCAL
BrowseAllow all
BrowseAddress all
DefaultAuthType Basic
Location /
  # Allow shared printing...
  Order allow,deny
#  Allow @LOCAL
  Allow all
/Location


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:02:14 -0400
Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
It's very important that your CUPS configuration allows printing from 
your local network. If not, Windows won't see it. Check your 
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure it allows printing from other than 
localhost.



Michael Powell wrote:


Gary,
Thanks!  I think there must be slightly more to it, though.  If I give
it that address (or anything like it), Win98 reports that the printer is 
offline  that I can install it but can't print to it until it returns
online.  Since it is online, that tells me something is not quite 
right.


If I type that address into a web browser on the Windows machine, it 
does show up.  But there is something about it that the Windows print

manager does not like.

I tried it as you have it typed below, as well as:
\\server:631\printers\printername

Windows does not like either one.


On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:33 -0400
Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
You don't need Samba to print. As long as you set up your CUPS 
configuration to allow other local addresses to print to the server, you 
can print to it from windows using 
http://servername:631/printers/printername, where you replace 
servername and pritnername with the appropriate values. servername 
can also be an IP address.


If this works, you can also (but don't have to) set up the printer to be 
shared via Samba by adding a section to your Samba configuration. I 
recommend that you use SWAT for this - it makes it easy.


  
  
  
  
  

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Re: [Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-19 Thread Gary Dale
You don't need Samba to print. As long as you set up your CUPS 
configuration to allow other local addresses to print to the server, you 
can print to it from windows using 
http://servername:631/printers/printername, where you replace 
servername and pritnername with the appropriate values. servername 
can also be an IP address.


If this works, you can also (but don't have to) set up the printer to be 
shared via Samba by adding a section to your Samba configuration. I 
recommend that you use SWAT for this - it makes it easy.



Michael Powell wrote:
I have added an HP Deskjet 600 to my debian etch system, using CUPS.  It is 
working fine.


I would like to set it up so that I can occassionally print to it from a 
Windows 9x machine.  This is where I seem to be having trouble.


I consulted the HOW-TO docs on the samba site, but they are quite detailed
and confusing (for me).  


I don't want to do anything that will cause the printer to work for the Win9x
machine, but stop working properly on the debian machine.  I am probably 
wrong, but what little I did understand of the HOW-TO gave me the 
impression that it might indeed cause problems.


I really need something that is more like A Dummy's Guide to SAMBA and 
Print Shares.  The Win9x machine can currently see/access the other shares
defined on the debian box.  Is there an dummy's way to set the printer 
share up so that my Win9x machine can see it?


Thanks!

  


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[Samba] Problems adding a printer share

2007-06-17 Thread Michael Powell
I have added an HP Deskjet 600 to my debian etch system, using CUPS.  It is 
working fine.

I would like to set it up so that I can occassionally print to it from a 
Windows 9x machine.  This is where I seem to be having trouble.

I consulted the HOW-TO docs on the samba site, but they are quite detailed
and confusing (for me).  

I don't want to do anything that will cause the printer to work for the Win9x
machine, but stop working properly on the debian machine.  I am probably 
wrong, but what little I did understand of the HOW-TO gave me the 
impression that it might indeed cause problems.

I really need something that is more like A Dummy's Guide to SAMBA and 
Print Shares.  The Win9x machine can currently see/access the other shares
defined on the debian box.  Is there an dummy's way to set the printer 
share up so that my Win9x machine can see it?

Thanks!

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